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Here is an outstanding article on how the P5 programs are intentionally screwing G5:

https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Co...124910518/

How can any program that is undefeated after two consecutive seasons be completely locked-out of a playoff?!

1. Of course they are, and the G5 agreed and signed on the dotted line for the paycheck.

2. No one is going to give you playoff credit for what you did last year, otherwise Georgia would be 2nd right now.

I don't feel sorry for the G5, they are getting a big paycheck. As stated above they signed up or this.

With that said I think the playoffs would be suited for a 6 team set up.

The P5 champ game winners all get in.

The 6th spot is filled using this criteria in order.

1. Undefeated ND (go ahead and whine)
2. Undefeated G5
3. If neither of the above occur this becomes an at large spot using current methodology.

(11-20-2018 10:58 AM)Doo Wrote:  I don't feel sorry for the G5, they are getting a big paycheck. As stated above they signed up or this.

With that said I think the playoffs would be suited for a 6 team set up.

The P5 champ game winners all get in.

The 6th spot is filled using this criteria in order.

1. Undefeated ND (go ahead and whine)
2. Undefeated G5
3. If neither of the above occur this becomes an at large spot using current methodology.

I can’t see how 2 teams can get a bye and this be perceived as a fair setup. What if ND was 1 or 2, no conference championship game and a bye?

(11-20-2018 10:58 AM)Doo Wrote:  I don't feel sorry for the G5, they are getting a big paycheck. As stated above they signed up or this.

With that said I think the playoffs would be suited for a 6 team set up.

The P5 champ game winners all get in.

The 6th spot is filled using this criteria in order.

1. Undefeated ND (go ahead and whine)
2. Undefeated G5
3. If neither of the above occur this becomes an at large spot using current methodology.

Disagree with making an undedeated season an autobid. It should be close to automatic but teams shouldn't be discouraged from playing tough OOC games.

Always figured an 8-team setup would be good enough.

1-5. P5 conference champs
6. highest ranked G5
7. At large (figure it'll always be P5 or Notre Dame)
8. At large (figure it'll always be P5 or Notre Dame)

Probably would play the first round at the higher ranked team's stadium, the semi-finals and finals at established bowl sites.

At attractive as that sounds, it would've meant a road game at Alabama instead of the Cotton Bowl vs. Wisconsin in 2016.

Right off the bat me scanning this article:

Quote:No matter how UCF schedules, its SOS is going to rank lower than almost every Power Five program. It’s a fact.

This is simply untrue -- that line is a crock of sh!t, sorry. :) UCF didn't schedule great -- it's lower than Many G5s! So it DOES matter how it schedules, as far as "lower than almost every P5". That's a laughable statement. Basically, it's Not Hard to set up your SoS to be as strong as many of the 60+ P5s out there. The hard part would be to bring in a high P5, a mid-range P5, a high OOC G5, and a mid-range OOC G5 with home-away setups to Your Liking. Especially if you're in the AAC, which many times will have good years (not so much this year) -- your in-conference schedule many times isn't going to be That much worse than a lower-end division P5 like the Big Ten East. So in the end, especially if in the AAC -- no excuses if your SoS is lower than almost all the P5s'.

ESPN SoS:
#17 - San Jose State
#24 - Utah State
#31 - Notre Dame
#34 - ECU
#36 - Akron
#37 - USF
#38 - Houston
#39 - Oklahoma State
#40 - Boise State
#41 - TCU
#46 - Clemson
#47 - Texas
#50 - Tennessee (SEC!)
#52 - Utah (DOUBLE-BELOW UTAH STATE!)

#74 - UCF (Went UP later in the year; but still)
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The real argument is making the Top 4 for a Top 4-playoff. The B12 or P12 will commonly run into this problem with 1L due to their SoS. Boise has been there before, only to lose a game -- but they stacked up their OOC schedule to do so. A G5 can do this over time. UCF has been in this position.

But I agree on expanding the playOFF into playOFFS. I think the most Realistic Option + covering all bases: Taking the NY6 -- which is 12 teams, where the winner of the Top 2 Bowls play for the National Championship currently... you just make a playoff out of it. The Top 4 have a bye, and the other 8 play each other in a 1st round (home/away) in mid-Dec. The 4 winners then face off against the Top 4, then the winners go to a Final Four.

An 8-team playoff would be 1 week less, and a little more "elite" (but no bye to Top 4). But a problem for the G5: Realistically, NO, there's not going to be an auto-bid-no-matter-what. Many times a G5 WOULD make the 8th spot, yes. But not an auto-bid. The years that Boise or whomever was ranked #20-something going to the G5-Bowl, wouldn't make it to this. It wasn't until the NY bowls expanded to 12 teams, that an auto-G5 got in no-matter-what. With just 8 teams -- 2 less than 10 NY Bowl teams when there still was no auto-bid -- I can't see there still being an auto-bid no matter what. BUT, I would see it as something along the lines of within "Top 12", which would about half the time, the Top G5 getting in. Unless of course, which is certainly a possibility, they make the G5 needing to be in the Top 10. Which IMO, would happen less than half the time. But I wouldn't complain too much.

The thing that will help G5s is P5s getting screwed out of the playoffs. If ND makes it and the Pac12, Big 12 get shut out watch the Power 5s get behind a 8 team min playoff. This years playoff could be ND, SEC, B10 ACC only. If UCF runs the table, that leaves two P5 conferences and undefeated G5 on the sidelines. Destroys the integrity of the playoffs.

(11-20-2018 03:48 PM)fastbuicks Wrote:  The thing that will help G5s is P5s getting screwed out of the playoffs. If ND makes it and the Pac12, Big 12 get shut out watch the Power 5s get behind a 8 team min playoff. This years playoff could be ND, SEC, B10 ACC only. If UCF runs the table, that leaves two P5 conferences and undefeated G5 on the sidelines. Destroys the integrity of the playoffs.

There is some hope. If Ohio State beats Michigan and its fan-boy-******-fan-base Saturday, the Pig10 could easily get shut out of the playoff for the third consecutive year.

It is a weak P5 conference. Michigan lost to the best team on its schedule and hopefully will be humiliated - again - in Columbus.

Go Bucks!

Proud to be a BRONCO and G5 supporter and NOT a Wolverine or Spartan!