(11-14-2018 09:32 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  Very rationale argument and the trends are very interesting. I don’t know which of the 3 of us are better, but I sure as heck am looking forward to finding out! It is nice feeling like we made a good hire in Viator and feeling like this ship just might have turned around. Cheers to the next few weeks Cajuns and Woofs.

Not much question about the Viator hire. Much respect for that man.

(11-14-2018 08:51 AM)Arrowhead Wrote:  I disagree. I think if we both play up to our capabilities ULM wins rather easily. ULM defense is playing really well and offense is clicking.

All things equal you get your ass beat on your home field again...

no hate on stAte, but I think it'd be most fun to watch the Cajuns/ULM game be the deciding factor in the West last game of the season.

But that is purely from the fan side, not necessarily what's best for the west.

(11-15-2018 10:55 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  no hate on stAte, but I think it'd be most fun to watch the Cajuns/ULM game be the deciding factor in the West last game of the season.

But that is purely from the fan side, not necessarily what's best for the west.

Best for the West is to have the best team playing in the championship. If the Cajuns win this weekend and smash ULM like we do to little brother every time we play in Monroe the it’s pretty darn clear who the best of the West would be.

Louisiana beat stAte and I give credit to the Red Wolves they made it a game when we should have crushed them. They made plays and took the lead and then we came out on top at the end.

But the Cajuns will beat South Al and ULM. We will have losses to Coastal(choke job), App St, and Troy.

StAte is a mess and I wouldn’t be surprised if ULM wins and we ruin their season.

(11-15-2018 11:08 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 10:55 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  no hate on stAte, but I think it'd be most fun to watch the Cajuns/ULM game be the deciding factor in the West last game of the season.

But that is purely from the fan side, not necessarily what's best for the west.

Best for the West is to have the best team playing in the championship. If the Cajuns win this weekend and smash ULM like we do to little brother every time we play in Monroe the it’s pretty darn clear who the best of the West would be.

Louisiana beat stAte and I give credit to the Red Wolves they made it a game when we should have crushed them. They made plays and took the lead and then we came out on top at the end.

But the Cajuns will beat South Al and ULM. We will have losses to Coastal(choke job), App St, and Troy.

StAte is a mess and I wouldn’t be surprised if ULM wins and we ruin their season.

You’re starting to sound like GS fans before we played them

(11-15-2018 10:55 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  no hate on stAte, but I think it'd be most fun to watch the Cajuns/ULM game be the deciding factor in the West last game of the season.

But that is purely from the fan side, not necessarily what's best for the west.

No need to hate on us, the Cajuns/ULM game will be the deciding factor. ULM wins, stAte goes to the championship game, Louisiana wins, they go to the championship game.

(11-15-2018 01:53 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 10:55 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  no hate on stAte, but I think it'd be most fun to watch the Cajuns/ULM game be the deciding factor in the West last game of the season.

But that is purely from the fan side, not necessarily what's best for the west.

No need to hate on us, the Cajuns/ULM game will be the deciding factor. ULM wins, stAte goes to the championship game, Louisiana wins, they go to the championship game.

Or ULM wins both and goes to the Championship game.

(11-15-2018 01:56 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 01:53 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 10:55 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  no hate on stAte, but I think it'd be most fun to watch the Cajuns/ULM game be the deciding factor in the West last game of the season.

But that is purely from the fan side, not necessarily what's best for the west.

No need to hate on us, the Cajuns/ULM game will be the deciding factor. ULM wins, stAte goes to the championship game, Louisiana wins, they go to the championship game.

Or ULM wins both and goes to the Championship game.

Now you’re just talking nonsense.

(11-15-2018 02:03 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 01:56 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 01:53 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 10:55 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  no hate on stAte, but I think it'd be most fun to watch the Cajuns/ULM game be the deciding factor in the West last game of the season.

But that is purely from the fan side, not necessarily what's best for the west.

No need to hate on us, the Cajuns/ULM game will be the deciding factor. ULM wins, stAte goes to the championship game, Louisiana wins, they go to the championship game.

Or ULM wins both and goes to the Championship game.

Now you’re just talking nonsense.

Guess we’ll see.

(11-15-2018 02:04 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 02:03 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 01:56 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 01:53 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 10:55 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  no hate on stAte, but I think it'd be most fun to watch the Cajuns/ULM game be the deciding factor in the West last game of the season.

But that is purely from the fan side, not necessarily what's best for the west.

No need to hate on us, the Cajuns/ULM game will be the deciding factor. ULM wins, stAte goes to the championship game, Louisiana wins, they go to the championship game.

Or ULM wins both and goes to the Championship game.

Now you’re just talking nonsense.

Guess we’ll see.

We've seen . . . partly. Go ULM!

Updating the OP. Only Louisiana controls its own destiny now.

Louisiana (controls destiny):
Wins West with:
1. Win over ULM

Odds: 44.9%

Arkansas State:
Wins West with:
1. Win over Texas State AND Louisiana loss to ULM

Odds: 45.1%

ULM:
Wins West with:

1. Win over Louisiana AND Arkansas State loss to Texas State

Odds: 10.0%

Another great thing about the championship game is that more of these games matter. 3 of the 5 Sun Belt games on the final week of the regular season have an impact on the championship race. If ULM had beaten Arkansas State, this would be Sun Belt semifinal week with Troy/App and Louisiana/ULM.

(11-15-2018 10:55 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  no hate on stAte, but I think it'd be most fun to watch the Cajuns/ULM game be the deciding factor in the West last game of the season.

But that is purely from the fan side, not necessarily what's best for the west.

2005 Triple tie.
Going into the final Saturday the ULM Indians needed a win over the Cajuns to win the conference outright
UL needed a win over ULM to take at least a share + an AState loss at North Texas to get the bowl bid based on tiebreakers.
AState needed a UL win and had to win in Denton in order to get a share and take the tiebreaker.

AState wins 31-24 with that score becoming final around halftime of the game in Monroe.
Cajuns win going away, AState takes the tie-breaker and heads to Lafayette for the displaced NOLA Bowl.

2009 Bowl disappointment
In the 2009 season, we were under the old bowl rules where a 6-6 could go to a bowl if they had to play in order to help their conference meet all their contractual obligations but 6-6 was not "bowl eligible" as we think of it today. 6-6 just provided an exception. Next to last week of the season. The now Warhawks are 6-4 heading into Cajun Field and the Cajuns are 5-5. Louisiana wins 21-17 and the Warhawks then lose to conference runner-up MTSU and UL loses to champion Troy. Both schools finish 6-6 and there is no at-large spot for them. If ULM had won they would have been 7-5 and would have had to have been placed ahead of any 6-6 at-large.

2010 Spoiler
Nothing much riding but pride. Still under the old 6-6 rules, but ULM with a win can get to 6-6 but wouldn't have found a spot in the bowls. Cajuns win 23-22 in Monroe. Keeps ULM from 6-6 but doesn't save Ricky Bustle's job in Lafayette.

2013 Opening the door
Cajuns are 8-2 and 5-0 with a one game lead over AState. Warhawks win in Lafayette and the Cajuns lose the next week in Mobile and ties with AState for the conference. Because there were two bowl ties, a two-way tie isn't broken because league rules mandate bowl placement for both tied teams in a two way tie. Cajuns held the tiebreaker if we had still been only tied to one game.

2016 Bowl bid
Cajuns are 5-6 and need a win to get bowl eligible. UL wins 30-3 in Monroe and two weeks later face USM in the NOLA.

2017 Helping Hud pack his bags
Game is played in September. ULM wins a double OT game in Lafayette. Hudspeth ends up 5-7 and is let go by UL.

2018. Breaking a triple tie
Cajuns and Warhawks will kickoff first at 2:00pm. Winner is assured at least a share of the SBC West title. Just like in 2005 the winner gets at least a share of the title. AState and TXST will kick at 3:00pm.
UL win guarantees a berth in the title game and an AState loss makes the division title outright
ULM win guarantees at least a share of the title, an AState loss gives to ULM outright with a ticket to the title game
AState out with a loss, gets a share with a win. Holds tiebreaker over ULM and loses tiebreaker to UL.
Very similar to 2005 when the Cajuns were in Monroe with AState playing in Texas.

So we've not had a huge amount of UL-ULM drama but there has been some.

They have definitely been a thorn in our side every time we have a chance at a bowl. We have to learn to win the big game and show we have turned the corner. I’m concerned due to history.

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2005 Triple tie.
Going into the final Saturday the ULM Indians needed a win over the Cajuns to win the conference outright
UL needed a win over ULM to take at least a share + an AState loss at North Texas to get the bowl bid based on tiebreakers.
AState needed a UL win and had to win in Denton in order to get a share and take the tiebreaker.

AState wins 31-24 with that score becoming final around halftime of the game in Monroe.
Cajuns win going away, AState takes the tie-breaker and heads to Lafayette for the displaced NOLA Bowl.

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I attended the bowl game that year and nearly froze, as it was bitterly cold. It was a a disappointment that the Cajuns did not get to play in a bowl at Cajun field, but I wanted to support the fairly new football conference. I also wanted to show the New Orleans Bowl people that the conference was in support of the city of New Orleans, since they were suffering from the effects of Katrina.

2005 Triple tie.
Going into the final Saturday the ULM Indians needed a win over the Cajuns to win the conference outright
UL needed a win over ULM to take at least a share + an AState loss at North Texas to get the bowl bid based on tiebreakers.
AState needed a UL win and had to win in Denton in order to get a share and take the tiebreaker.

AState wins 31-24 with that score becoming final around halftime of the game in Monroe.
Cajuns win going away, AState takes the tie-breaker and heads to Lafayette for the displaced NOLA Bowl.

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I attended the bowl game that year and nearly froze, as it was bitterly cold. It was a a disappointment that the Cajuns did not get to play in a bowl at Cajun field, but I wanted to support the fairly new football conference. I also wanted to show the New Orleans Bowl people that the conference was in support of the city of New Orleans, since they were suffering from the effects of Katrina.
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Absolutely miserable night. Had a light rain that looked like it was snow that was melting just before it hit the ground.
I started running a fever during the game and was miserable sick for more than two weeks.

(11-15-2018 11:08 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 10:55 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  no hate on stAte, but I think it'd be most fun to watch the Cajuns/ULM game be the deciding factor in the West last game of the season.

But that is purely from the fan side, not necessarily what's best for the west.

Best for the West is to have the best team playing in the championship. If the Cajuns win this weekend and smash ULM like we do to little brother every time we play in Monroe the it’s pretty darn clear who the best of the West would be.

Louisiana beat stAte and I give credit to the Red Wolves they made it a game when we should have crushed them. They made plays and took the lead and then we came out on top at the end.

But the Cajuns will beat South Al and ULM. We will have losses to Coastal(choke job), App St, and Troy.

StAte is a mess and I wouldn’t be surprised if ULM wins and we ruin their season.

stAte looks much less messy after holding 3 straight opponents to under 300 total yards and under 20 points.