I thought about doing a "best coach" poll but actually thought this would be more interesting to see who people would pick from the two guys that would probably get most of the votes anyways.

Tough choice, but I will say that between the two Brown is the only one to lose to Tyson Summers (thanks, Neal).

Brown is the better coach


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This is one where I’ll be a homer and make no apologies. Satt all the way.

They are 1-1 against each other, both holding serve at home in games decided by less than a touchdown.

the win vs LSU is the difference between these two. for me at least.

It's hard to say. If we're going by accolades we can say:

Neal Brown

• 2-0 in recent meetings with APP and ARKST.
• 2-0 in bowl games
• 1 SBC Championship.
• Win over a high profile ranked program in LSU.
• Wins over four division or conference champs (APP, Akron, Southern Miss, North Texas)
- Has trouble with option and mobile qb offenses
- Loss to South Alabama

Scott Satterfield

• 2 SBC Championships
• 2-0+ in bowl games (not sure of the total count)
• Best bowl win over Toledo
• Defends option and mobile qbs well
- 0-2 in recent meetings with Troy and ARKST
- Loss to UMASS

Neal Brown is 1-1 vs A-State

Satterfield is 1-1 vs A-State


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I’d take Brown over anyone in the G5

He has built this program back really quickly into something better than it was even in the early 00s

Top 25 AP ranking

Beating a Ranked and 9 win LSU program

2-0 in bowls

Conference championship

Satterfield is a good coach. But it’s near misses most all last season over inferior programs, loss to Umass and lost to Liberty in one of his first seasons.

Satterfield has never lost to Tyson Summers...

(07-26-2018 09:27 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Satterfield is a good coach. But it’s near misses most all last season over inferior programs, loss to Umass and lost to Liberty in one of his first seasons.

Fun fact: The week after that loss to Liberty, App beat Troy 53-14 in Troy.

(07-26-2018 09:44 AM)AppinVA Wrote:  

(07-26-2018 09:27 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Satterfield is a good coach. But it’s near misses most all last season over inferior programs, loss to Umass and lost to Liberty in one of his first seasons.

Fun fact: The week after that loss to Liberty, App beat Troy 53-14 in Troy.

Fun fact:

Brown wasn’t coach for that one

(07-26-2018 09:46 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(07-26-2018 09:44 AM)AppinVA Wrote:  

(07-26-2018 09:27 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Satterfield is a good coach. But it’s near misses most all last season over inferior programs, loss to Umass and lost to Liberty in one of his first seasons.

Fun fact: The week after that loss to Liberty, App beat Troy 53-14 in Troy.

Fun fact:

Brown wasn’t coach for that one

Fun fact: Doesn’t matter. Satt was, and a different coach may have spent the week heading into that game typing his resume. Instead, after a 1-5 start, he got App to be technically bowl eligible. Which we have been all four years. Unprecedented.

(07-26-2018 09:53 AM)AppinVA Wrote:  

(07-26-2018 09:46 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(07-26-2018 09:44 AM)AppinVA Wrote:  

(07-26-2018 09:27 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Satterfield is a good coach. But it’s near misses most all last season over inferior programs, loss to Umass and lost to Liberty in one of his first seasons.

Fun fact: The week after that loss to Liberty, App beat Troy 53-14 in Troy.

Fun fact:

Brown wasn’t coach for that one

Fun fact: Doesn’t matter. Satt was, and a different coach may have spent the week heading into that game typing his resume. Instead, after a 1-5 start, he got App to be technically bowl eligible. Which we have been all four years. Unprecedented.

Congrats on beating a Late Blakeney Troy team. It’s not hard to do ask Abilene Christian university.

One comment about SS...App lost their DC and apparent DC-in-waiting and still made an internal hire for DC. If App can do that and still have a dominant defense IMO that might solidify Satterfield as #1. That would show you're not only football smart, but a good manager, too. Would Troy field a good defense if Koenning left?

BTW, I think P5 wins are definitely good for programs but as far as evaluating coaches it isn't everything. Satterfield gave his team a chance to win against Tennessee and Wake Forest. Getting those wins can be the difference between making one play.

(07-26-2018 08:56 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  It's hard to say. If we're going by accolades we can say:

Neal Brown

• 2-0 in recent meetings with APP and ARKST.
• 2-0 in bowl games
• 1 SBC Championship.
• Win over a high profile ranked program in LSU.
• Wins over four division or conference champs (APP, Akron, Southern Miss, North Texas)
- Has trouble with option and mobile qb offenses
- Loss to South Alabama

Scott Satterfield

• 2 SBC Championships
• 2-0+ in bowl games (not sure of the total count)
• Best bowl win over Toledo
• Defends option and mobile qbs well
- 0-2 in recent meetings with Troy and ARKST
- Loss to UMASS

We're 3-0 in bowls. First team to make three bowls in the first three years of eligibility and win them.

(07-26-2018 09:59 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  One comment about SS...App lost their DC and apparent DC-in-waiting and still made an internal hire for DC. If App can do that and still have a dominant defense IMO that might solidify Satterfield as #1. That would show you're not only football smart, but a good manager, too. Would Troy field a good defense if Koenning left?

BTW, I think P5 wins are definitely good for programs but as far as evaluating coaches it isn't everything. Satterfield gave his team a chance to win against Tennessee and Wake Forest. Getting those wins can be the difference between making one play.

Or one FG, but I won't beat a dead horse. Satt coached both games extremely well, though the final regulation drive against the Vols did raise some questions about clock management and play calling.


Let's not forget that during our first year in the SBC, when everyone here said we'd get steamrolled, Scott finished the season on a 6 game win streak that included road wins at Troy, LaLa and stAte.

(07-26-2018 09:57 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(07-26-2018 09:53 AM)AppinVA Wrote:  

(07-26-2018 09:46 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(07-26-2018 09:44 AM)AppinVA Wrote:  

(07-26-2018 09:27 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Satterfield is a good coach. But it’s near misses most all last season over inferior programs, loss to Umass and lost to Liberty in one of his first seasons.

Fun fact: The week after that loss to Liberty, App beat Troy 53-14 in Troy.

Fun fact:

Brown wasn’t coach for that one

Fun fact: Doesn’t matter. Satt was, and a different coach may have spent the week heading into that game typing his resume. Instead, after a 1-5 start, he got App to be technically bowl eligible. Which we have been all four years. Unprecedented.

Congrats on beating a Late Blakeney Troy team. It’s not hard to do ask Abilene Christian university.

Apparently, it was a lot easier than beating Liberty. As were the five other conference wins we got to end the year. Counting that win over Troy, App is 36-10 since Liberty.

Satterfield can be officially #1, I don't care, in fact media outlets and the SBC should promote it that way. Maybe, that way he will get hired away and we can keep CNB around.

I could have predicted where this thread was going. Note not a App or TROY fan started it. Both are good coaches and I think headed for a much better pay day soon. However, neither can guarantee the success they have had NOT WITH THEIR FUTURE TEAMS but both are literally idolized where they are now and could sustain what they are doingpretty well. Of course both will want more challenges but to leave their program for ANY P5 will probably not happen. PJ Flexk at Minnesota, Hawkins years ago to Colorado from Boise. A pretty good pay day and happiness is worth a great deal when you know that 10 years of making 7 million is better than 4 years of making 4 million before getting fired. Their agents may want a fast pay check but honestly being patient at this point in their careers is probably the best move. Peterson at Washington is a great example and both of these guys seem pretty smart. I would not be shocked to see both stay just a little longer to follow the Peterson model instead of the Hawkins model leaving Boise.

Both took over programs from multiple decade coaching legends that stayed a couple years too long at their respective schools. They have taken the programs at their low points for the past 20 years and currently sit at a high point.

No G5 or 90% of P5s look at their schedule and look past going up against either of these guys.

Deciding between the two is a non-starter.