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It'll be interesting to see how Chartouney does fare. Looking at his numbers, the steals are impressive. But I wanted to look at how he did against the good teams...
overall steal pct is 5.6%
vs tier A games- 4 of them- 6.7%(FSU, WVU, SB, Davidson) (4 steals per game)
vs Tier A/B games- 10 of them- only 5.1% (3 steals per game)

So the 6 Tier b games he didn't get a ton of steals- only 2.3 steals per game. Davidson was crazy for him. Home game(tier b) he got only 3 steals. Away game(tier A) he got 5 steals
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Stever, here's an interesting article for you. It has some statistics about Mormon student-athletes returning to play after mission.

http://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id...type=CMSID
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(04-26-2018 01:29 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Stever, here's an interesting article for you. It has some statistics about Mormon student-athletes returning to play after mission.

http://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id...type=CMSID

Interesting-nice find. I'd say being a more of a 4 player like Bailey would be different than a swing guy like Merrill. Looked at KP's page and Merrill bulked up by 15 pounds in between fresh and soph years. Looking and Bailey as a HS sr he was 6-7 170. Going to need to put a lot more meat on the bones to play quite frankly.
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Nice write-up of how the transfers look to set Marquette up well for the next few years.

https://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2018/4/...ciechowski

The gist is that by bringing in some bigger guards who can handle a good deal of the ballhandling/creating responsibilities and toughest defensive assignments it potentially frees up Howard to play to his strengths scoring the ball and be hidden much more on defense than was possible with the Howard/Rowsey tandem.
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(05-01-2018 03:42 PM)Bogg Wrote:  Nice write-up of how the transfers look to set Marquette up well for the next few years.

https://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2018/4/...ciechowski

The gist is that by bringing in some bigger guards who can handle a good deal of the ballhandling/creating responsibilities and toughest defensive assignments it potentially frees up Howard to play to his strengths scoring the ball and be hidden much more on defense than was possible with the Howard/Rowsey tandem.

"Replacing Rowsey’s atrocious defense with legitimately good defense can hopefully be the key to a top 75 team defense, which makes a top 4 seed a reasonable high goal.”

This is what I was referencing before. Taking out Rousey's defense for Chartouney's is an immense addition to the team.
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saw Marquette has added a game with Kansas St- starting a home and home series with them. Really a must for Marquette.
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(05-02-2018 12:57 PM)stever20 Wrote:  saw Marquette has added a game with Kansas St- starting a home and home series with them. Really a must for Marquette.

Road Gavitt Game. Home vs. Wisconsin. Home vs. K-State. Two of: Kansas/Tennesse/Louisville (Neutral). Home vs. Buffalo. Home vs. UMBC. 2 on-campus NIT games. That leaves about 3-4 games yet to be scheduled (likely buy games).
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(05-02-2018 03:12 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  
(05-02-2018 12:57 PM)stever20 Wrote:  saw Marquette has added a game with Kansas St- starting a home and home series with them. Really a must for Marquette.

Road Gavitt Game. Home vs. Wisconsin. Home vs. K-State. Two of: Kansas/Tennesse/Louisville (Neutral). Home vs. Buffalo. Home vs. UMBC. 2 on-campus NIT games. That leaves about 3-4 games yet to be scheduled (likely buy games).

I would think would have the ability to have 1 road game quite frankly- would have already 6 home games, 2 neutral, and 1 road. Normally teams have about 7-8 home OOC games. So could EASILY have another road game, if not 2.
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Other 2018-19 #mubb home dates at the @WisconsinESC next year: Nov. 10 (NIT), Nov. 17 (NIT), Nov. 27, Dec. 4, Dec. 18, Dec. 28. Exhibition is TBA.
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(05-03-2018 03:09 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  @MarquetteMBB

Other 2018-19 #mubb home dates at the @WisconsinESC next year: Nov. 10 (NIT), Nov. 17 (NIT), Nov. 27, Dec. 4, Dec. 18, Dec. 28. Exhibition is TBA.

looking at it- would leave Marquette's schedule with
UMBC
Kansas St
Wisconsin
Buffalo
6 buy type of games
2 NIT games
Road Gavitt game

pretty poor schedule quite frankly. Definitely need Wisconsin and Kansas St to be good, or it could really be a poor schedule with only 3 guaranteed to be tier 1-2 games(the 2 NIT and the road Gavitt game).
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(05-03-2018 03:26 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 03:09 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  @MarquetteMBB

Other 2018-19 #mubb home dates at the @WisconsinESC next year: Nov. 10 (NIT), Nov. 17 (NIT), Nov. 27, Dec. 4, Dec. 18, Dec. 28. Exhibition is TBA.

looking at it- would leave Marquette's schedule with
UMBC
Kansas St
Wisconsin
Buffalo
6 buy type of games
2 NIT games
Road Gavitt game

pretty poor schedule quite frankly. Definitely need Wisconsin and Kansas St to be good, or it could really be a poor schedule with only 3 guaranteed to be tier 1-2 games(the 2 NIT and the road Gavitt game).

Never change, Stever.

KSU returns all five starters from its Elite Eight team. Buffalo won 27 games last year and made the second round. UMBC upset Virginia and won the American East. Wisconsin will be improved. Toss in two of Louisville/Tennessee/Kansas and a road Gavitt Game, there is no possible way you can argue that this is a "poor" schedule.

But, alas, go right along trashing any and every team in the Big East...

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(05-03-2018 06:01 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 03:26 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 03:09 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  @MarquetteMBB

Other 2018-19 #mubb home dates at the @WisconsinESC next year: Nov. 10 (NIT), Nov. 17 (NIT), Nov. 27, Dec. 4, Dec. 18, Dec. 28. Exhibition is TBA.

looking at it- would leave Marquette's schedule with
UMBC
Kansas St
Wisconsin
Buffalo
6 buy type of games
2 NIT games
Road Gavitt game

pretty poor schedule quite frankly. Definitely need Wisconsin and Kansas St to be good, or it could really be a poor schedule with only 3 guaranteed to be tier 1-2 games(the 2 NIT and the road Gavitt game).

Never change, Stever.

KSU returns all five starters from its Elite Eight team. Buffalo won 27 games last year and made the second round. UMBC upset Virginia and won the American East. Wisconsin will be improved. Toss in two of Louisville/Tennessee/Kansas and a road Gavitt Game, there is no possible way you can argue that this is a "poor" schedule.

But, alas, go right along trashing any and every team in the Big East...

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Enough about Marquette. Does anyone know the non-conf schedule for Central Florida?
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(05-03-2018 06:01 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 03:26 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 03:09 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  @MarquetteMBB

Other 2018-19 #mubb home dates at the @WisconsinESC next year: Nov. 10 (NIT), Nov. 17 (NIT), Nov. 27, Dec. 4, Dec. 18, Dec. 28. Exhibition is TBA.

looking at it- would leave Marquette's schedule with
UMBC
Kansas St
Wisconsin
Buffalo
6 buy type of games
2 NIT games
Road Gavitt game

pretty poor schedule quite frankly. Definitely need Wisconsin and Kansas St to be good, or it could really be a poor schedule with only 3 guaranteed to be tier 1-2 games(the 2 NIT and the road Gavitt game).

Never change, Stever.

KSU returns all five starters from its Elite Eight team. Buffalo won 27 games last year and made the second round. UMBC upset Virginia and won the American East. Wisconsin will be improved. Toss in two of Louisville/Tennessee/Kansas and a road Gavitt Game, there is no possible way you can argue that this is a "poor" schedule.

But, alas, go right along trashing any and every team in the Big East...

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That's not a good schedule. Wisconsin may be improved- but by how much? Lunardi early has them as the 8th team out of the tourney. Buffalo Lunardi has a 12 seed. UMBC Marquette will be lucky if they're a tier 3 home game quite frankly. The only game likely to be a tier 1 home game- Kansas St. The road tier 1 game will be the Gavitt game(most likely). The NIT tourney- probably gets either Tennessee or Kansas in rd 1 and then need to win that to get the other. So maybe 4 tier 1 games if everything works out. Also numerically, with 10 home games, that's going to hurt their RPI having that much. It'll be numerically a schedule in the 125-150 range I think.
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(05-03-2018 09:11 PM)stever20 Wrote:  That's not a good schedule. Wisconsin may be improved- but by how much? Lunardi early has them as the 8th team out of the tourney. Buffalo Lunardi has a 12 seed. UMBC Marquette will be lucky if they're a tier 3 home game quite frankly. The only game likely to be a tier 1 home game- Kansas St. The road tier 1 game will be the Gavitt game(most likely). The NIT tourney- probably gets either Tennessee or Kansas in rd 1 and then need to win that to get the other. So maybe 4 tier 1 games if everything works out. Also numerically, with 10 home games, that's going to hurt their RPI having that much. It'll be numerically a schedule in the 125-150 range I think.

https://frshoopz.com/cbb/rothstein-files...contender/

2. Marquette is scheduling like it’s preparing for a breakthrough season

If recruiting is the lifeblood of every program, then scheduling is the veins and arteries — seriously.

Putting together a schedule with the adequate amount of big-time games is critical to being on the right side of the bubble on Selection Sunday and with the looks of things, it appears that the Golden Eagles have taken strides in that area heading into next season.

In addition to 18 Big East games, Marquette will play two tilts in the Preseason NIT along with Kansas, Tennessee, and Louisville; all three of those teams are currently ranked in the FRS Sports Preseason Top 25 and Kansas and Tennessee is ranked in the top six. Steve Wojciechowski’s squad also will play a road game against a Big Ten team in the Gavitt Games and host both Wisconsin and Kansas State in December; the Wildcats are currently ranked 13th in the FRS Sports Preseason Top 25 and return the majority of their nucleus from last year’s team that reached the Elite Eight.

That’s 23 high major games and if the Golden Eagles win their fair share, they won’t just be playing for a spot in the 2019 NCAA Tournament; they’ll be playing for a high seed in the 2019 NCAA Tournament.

This is one of the Big East’s more unique teams entering next season with the return of two all-league players in Markus Howard and Sam Hauser along with the additions of three potentially key front court pieces in Nebraska transfer Ed Morrow, Brendan Bailey, and Joey Hauser — the younger brother of Sam Hauser. The 6-8 Bailey is a former 4-star recruit who missed the past few seasons due to a Mormon Mission.


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I guess maybe I was a bit wrong about the schedule. I still think it's a bit TOO home based- 10/13 being home- something that could hurt if they have 1-2 home losses. Kind of surprised they didn't do the Kansas St series with at KSU this year and home next year- because now next year they'll have 2 road games with that and Wisconsin.

The 3 big games are the NIT 2 and then the Gavitt game. Can't go 0-3 in those. Have got to show they can win away from home.

I really still don't think the number will be as good as you think- depends on the other 6 games that we've not seen. They need to be smart with those 6- if they are teams in the 150-250 range, they're fine. But if they are teams in the 300-350 range- it could drop real fast.
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So let's sum things up here for Marquette. Two of three between Kansas, Louisville and Tennessee ( all preseason top 10) Gavitt Game, rumored to be between Ohio St. Michigan or Penn St. ( another possible ranked team) A game with Kansas St. another preseason top 15 team. Plus a game with Buffalo, who can be dangerous, and a game with Wisconsin. Those we know for sure.

My suggestion? Play every game on the road, with one hand tied behind their backs, wearing weighted sneakers and 3D glasses. Then, and only then, might Stever begrudgingly acknowledge the schedule is now satisfactory and no longer one to turn his nose up at.
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(05-07-2018 04:51 PM)hoops22 Wrote:  My suggestion? Play every game on the road, with one hand tied behind their backs, wearing weighted sneakers and 3D glasses.

It almost worked for Temple!
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(05-07-2018 07:46 PM)Bogg Wrote:  
(05-07-2018 04:51 PM)hoops22 Wrote:  My suggestion? Play every game on the road, with one hand tied behind their backs, wearing weighted sneakers and 3D glasses.

It almost worked for Temple!

I better be careful and not say this too loudly around here, but I've always liked Dunphy, and wouldn't mind seeing Temple return to the success they had in their A10 days. In fact, I like all the Big 5 schools although obviously Nova's the team I pull for most.
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(05-07-2018 04:51 PM)hoops22 Wrote:  So let's sum things up here for Marquette. Two of three between Kansas, Louisville and Tennessee ( all preseason top 10) Gavitt Game, rumored to be between Ohio St. Michigan or Penn St. ( another possible ranked team) A game with Kansas St. another preseason top 15 team. Plus a game with Buffalo, who can be dangerous, and a game with Wisconsin. Those we know for sure.

My suggestion? Play every game on the road, with one hand tied behind their backs, wearing weighted sneakers and 3D glasses. Then, and only then, might Stever begrudgingly acknowledge the schedule is now satisfactory and no longer one to turn his nose up at.

Lets see where they are at the end of the season...... I just think numerically it's not quite as good as you would think.

Also, I really don't think at least Louisville will be ranked in the top 10 from the NIT group. And yeah, Wisconsin is a huge x factor for the schedule. If they're back- it really helps the schedule a lot. If they aren't, It's possible they have only 3 tier 1 games from the schedule depending on how things play out.
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So Marquette drew Indiana in the Gavitt game. right now like the 7th team out according to Lunardi. A good opponent, but one that numerically won't move the needle that much. Should be a tier 1 road game(top 75 threshold)- but on the lower end of that. Probably right around top 50ish.

I think I'd put Marquette as the 4th best OOC schedule in the Big East.... Butler, Villanova, and Xavier I think are stronger than they are. I think Creighton could easily wind up with a stronger one as well- depends on how things go in the season..... They're much more questionable with their exempt tournament given how huge 1st round games are.

What I think the schedule is for Marquette is bare minimum- the schedule won't hurt Marquette as it has the last 3-4 years.
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