(02-19-2018 11:41 AM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Does anyone else have reliable info that JT4 could graduate this year? Transferring anywhere would be based on whether or not he's eligible for grad transfer.

That is the big, big question.

I fail to see how most any student can complete a 4 year degree in 3.

JT4 can take summer classes but acquiring an academic year of course work during summers seem unlikely to me.

When I was an undergrad (not at EMU) I'd take 18 or 20 quarter hours (as an upperclassman) but I didn't play athletics. Believe me. If I had to take science courses I couldn't take those kind of hours. If I had to take two biology classes in a semester, I'd probably failed one or both. Lol.

I used to know someone who was a fmr. athlete at EMU. Said undergrad athletes must take 12 hours; grad 9.

Do non-athletes take 12 or 15 hours (undergrad)?

(02-19-2018 12:19 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 11:41 AM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Does anyone else have reliable info that JT4 could graduate this year? Transferring anywhere would be based on whether or not he's eligible for grad transfer.

That is the big, big question.

I fail to see how most any student can complete a 4 year degree in 3.

JT4 can take summer classes but acquiring an academic year of course work during summers seem unlikely to me.

When I was an undergrad (not at EMU) I'd take 18 or 20 quarter hours (as an upperclassman) but I didn't play athletics. Believe me. If I had to take science courses I couldn't take those kind of hours. If I had to take two biology classes in a semester, I'd probably failed one or both. Lol.

I used to know someone who was a fmr. athlete at EMU. Said undergrad athletes must take 12 hours; grad 9.

Do non-athletes take 12 or 15 hours (undergrad)?

I used to work 20 hours per week my class load was 12 to 15 credit hours per semester my grades were in the B minus area in business school

I'm guessing the average student athlete takes 12 credits per semester, and 3-6 in the summer. Most full-time students do 12-15, with an average of 15 per semester usually being needed to graduate in 4 years.

So yes, it would be VERY hard for Thompson to graduate in 3 years. He would need to be taking 15 per semester (including during the season) plus another 9-12 each summer. It's possible, and I'm sure he's smart, but that course-load would be ridiculous.

(02-19-2018 01:54 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  I'm guessing the average student athlete takes 12 credits per semester, and 3-6 in the summer. Most full-time students do 12-15, with an average of 15 per semester usually being needed to graduate in 4 years.

So yes, it would be VERY hard for Thompson to graduate in 3 years. He would need to be taking 15 per semester (including during the season) plus another 9-12 each summer. It's possible, and I'm sure he's smart, but that course-load would be ridiculous.

Thanks, and he is a biology major (not basket weaving) and an athlete.

If he can be a biology major + athlete and graduate in 3+ years, he should stay and school and become, James Thompson IV, Ph.D.

I don't know ANYTHING, but I'm wondering if we are creating a false scare.

(02-19-2018 02:19 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 01:54 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  I'm guessing the average student athlete takes 12 credits per semester, and 3-6 in the summer. Most full-time students do 12-15, with an average of 15 per semester usually being needed to graduate in 4 years.

So yes, it would be VERY hard for Thompson to graduate in 3 years. He would need to be taking 15 per semester (including during the season) plus another 9-12 each summer. It's possible, and I'm sure he's smart, but that course-load would be ridiculous.

Thanks, and he is a biology major (not basket weaving) and an athlete.

If he can be a biology major + athlete and graduate in 3+ years, he should stay and school and become, James Thompson IV, Ph.D.

I don't know ANYTHING, but I'm wondering if we are creating a false scare.

Steve I was just asking. A prominent alum told me that after this year we should color him gone and that is why I presented the question. Personally I think he has ZERO NBA potential. While he has improved his temperament and subsequent penchant for technical fouls, he has done nothing this year with his jump shooting or free throws to improve that. Basketball, however, is a different animal than football as overseas opportunities abound.

Keno's one and done rent-a-shooter Marcus Keene led the NCAA last year in scoring and declared for the draft. One dimensional 3 point shooters at the next level are hardly a scarce commodity thus he is playing in Italy but still is making a respectable income. From all accounts Marcus did not have the academic credentials that James does and perhaps that will be the deciding factor with respect to whether he stays or goes.

I hope that I am "chicken little" here. We could lose anyone on the current team and replace them with the exception of James.

(02-19-2018 07:59 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 02:19 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 01:54 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  I'm guessing the average student athlete takes 12 credits per semester, and 3-6 in the summer. Most full-time students do 12-15, with an average of 15 per semester usually being needed to graduate in 4 years.

So yes, it would be VERY hard for Thompson to graduate in 3 years. He would need to be taking 15 per semester (including during the season) plus another 9-12 each summer. It's possible, and I'm sure he's smart, but that course-load would be ridiculous.

Thanks, and he is a biology major (not basket weaving) and an athlete.

If he can be a biology major + athlete and graduate in 3+ years, he should stay and school and become, James Thompson IV, Ph.D.

I don't know ANYTHING, but I'm wondering if we are creating a false scare.

Steve I was just asking. A prominent alum told me that after this year we should color him gone and that is why I presented the question. Personally I think he has ZERO NBA potential. While he has improved his temperament and subsequent penchant for technical fouls, he has done nothing this year with his jump shooting or free throws to improve that. Basketball, however, is a different animal than football as overseas opportunities abound.

Keno's one and done rent-a-shooter Marcus Keene led the NCAA last year in scoring and declared for the draft. One dimensional 3 point shooters at the next level are hardly a scarce commodity thus he is playing in Italy but still is making a respectable income. From all accounts Marcus did not have the academic credentials that James does and perhaps that will be the deciding factor with respect to whether he stays or goes.

I hope that I am "chicken little" here. We could lose anyone on the current team and replace them with the exception of James.

....Bond hard to replace too. He's an unbelievable talent when he's on his game.

(02-19-2018 08:44 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 07:59 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 02:19 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 01:54 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  I'm guessing the average student athlete takes 12 credits per semester, and 3-6 in the summer. Most full-time students do 12-15, with an average of 15 per semester usually being needed to graduate in 4 years.

So yes, it would be VERY hard for Thompson to graduate in 3 years. He would need to be taking 15 per semester (including during the season) plus another 9-12 each summer. It's possible, and I'm sure he's smart, but that course-load would be ridiculous.

Thanks, and he is a biology major (not basket weaving) and an athlete.

If he can be a biology major + athlete and graduate in 3+ years, he should stay and school and become, James Thompson IV, Ph.D.

I don't know ANYTHING, but I'm wondering if we are creating a false scare.

Steve I was just asking. A prominent alum told me that after this year we should color him gone and that is why I presented the question. Personally I think he has ZERO NBA potential. While he has improved his temperament and subsequent penchant for technical fouls, he has done nothing this year with his jump shooting or free throws to improve that. Basketball, however, is a different animal than football as overseas opportunities abound.

Keno's one and done rent-a-shooter Marcus Keene led the NCAA last year in scoring and declared for the draft. One dimensional 3 point shooters at the next level are hardly a scarce commodity thus he is playing in Italy but still is making a respectable income. From all accounts Marcus did not have the academic credentials that James does and perhaps that will be the deciding factor with respect to whether he stays or goes.

I hope that I am "chicken little" here. We could lose anyone on the current team and replace them with the exception of James.

....Bond hard to replace too. He's an unbelievable talent when he's on his game.

Luckey, Tim probably has more NBA potential than JT4. He is extremely fast and has a vertical leap that is unmatched in the MAC. In my opinion only, he is the poster child for dismissing Murphy. He reminds me of Victor Olidapo at Indiana. Victor evolved into a high draft pick with proper coaching and Tim is still the incredible athlete that was recruited 4 years ago as his improvement has only been incremental. Nevertheless he will be missed.

Weaver,
I think that is an interesting perspective on Bond. Even after not developing offensively for 4 years, he has incredible NBA level athleticism and more importantly plays with unbelievable intensity. I would give him a shot!!

As for James Thompson, he should have entered the draft last year. I feel his stock has fallen with his free throw shooting and lack of development. Wickersham made a good point a little ways back that the NBA often drafts on prospect when it comes to big men. Thompson is that much more of a known quantity now and has not improved (regressed in ft shooting). Playing at a P5 will be his best opportunity to get notoriety again, if he can manage to graduate. I love EMU basketball, but also want to see the best opportunity for the kid.

OkThe last two games, I've seen James Thompson do things that I haven't seen him ever do: 1) he's hit a couple nice mid range jump shots and exaggerates his follow thru like good outside shooters do. 2) I saw a couple of nice drop steps with a smooth baby hook. 3) Today I saw a dribble drive and an underhanded scoop and score.

James is really playing hard these last couple of games. If I were coach Murphy, I would ask Grant Long to speak with James about playing his senior year. Grant had a monster senior year that led him to be a sure NBA draft pick. If James can keep developing his offensive game, and if the team keeps making him the first option, then he could have a monster senior year and become a sure NBA draft pick and enjoy a nice professional career.

(02-24-2018 04:37 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  OkThe last two games, I've seen James Thompson do things that I haven't seen him ever do: 1) he's hit a couple nice mid range jump shots and exaggerates his follow thru like good outside shooters do. 2) I saw a couple of nice drop steps with a smooth baby hook. 3) Today I saw a dribble drive and an underhanded scoop and score.

James is really playing hard these last couple of games. If I were coach Murphy, I would ask Grant Long to speak with James about playing his senior year. Grant had a monster senior year that led him to be a sure NBA draft pick. If James can keep developing his offensive game, and if the team keeps making him the first option, then he could have a monster senior year and become a sure NBA draft pick and enjoy a nice professional career.

I would be very, very happy if everyone came back including JT4, Murphy, etc.

As I suggested before, unless he is graduating, I see NO good reason for JT4 to leave early for the pros and probably end up overseas or maybe the development league.

Get his degree or start grad school if he'll be a mid-year grad. Be part of what could be a very, very good team.

If the team was losing or re-building, etc. but this team returns everyone except Bond.

I just don't see a mass exodus. I don't see Minnie, Jackson, etc. leaving early.