(01-26-2018 11:40 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:35 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:31 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 10:49 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 10:40 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Not even close.

Then you can save your trolling commentary for your own.

How are we with the zero quality wins when I’ve already listed a page or 2 back that we are 7-2 versus the RPI groups 1 and 2?

4-2 vs RPI Group 1
3-0 vs RPI Group 2

Wins in G1 and G2 are quality wins by definition.

You’re trolling sucks much like your teams ability to work through screens...

Both teams have very similar resumes at this point. So either one saying the other team would be on the bubble is by default saying your own team would be on the bubble.

Yeah except Cincinnati is in the top 10 and climbing and your programs dropping like a lead balloon, but yeah otherwise you’re right...<sniff>

"Dropping like a lead balloon" ... All the way down to 17 (Where Cincy was a couple weeks ago) ... and within 2 spots of the RPI.

Similar resumes ... again...

(01-26-2018 11:41 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Neither Cincinnati, a top 10 team right now nor Wichita State in the top 20 are on the bubble

100% agree. Both are more likely to end up with a protected seed than miss the tourney.

(01-26-2018 11:38 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:36 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:35 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:31 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 10:49 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  Then you can save your trolling commentary for your own.

How are we with the zero quality wins when I’ve already listed a page or 2 back that we are 7-2 versus the RPI groups 1 and 2?

4-2 vs RPI Group 1
3-0 vs RPI Group 2

Wins in G1 and G2 are quality wins by definition.

You’re trolling sucks much like your teams ability to work through screens...

Both teams have very similar resumes at this point. So either one saying the other team would be on the bubble is by default saying your own team would be on the bubble.

At least Cincy has a Top 30 RPI win. WSU isn’t even close.

While true .. You have a Neutral #28 win. WSU has a Neutral #43 win. Those are both the same category (Tier 1)

WSU's is also a Major 7 win, which means it's RPI is more likely to go UP than Buffalo's which is more likely to fall by the end of the year. @Baylor and @OSU also could move to tier 1

Yet again ... similar resumes.

Cincy has two. Miss St and UCLA will also likely go up. But I digress. WSU has TWO bad conference losses. Cincy has none. Remember that sporting News poll? One can quibble as to its merits, but real sports analysts are making such determinations.

(01-26-2018 11:43 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:38 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:36 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:35 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:31 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  How are we with the zero quality wins when I’ve already listed a page or 2 back that we are 7-2 versus the RPI groups 1 and 2?

4-2 vs RPI Group 1
3-0 vs RPI Group 2

Wins in G1 and G2 are quality wins by definition.

You’re trolling sucks much like your teams ability to work through screens...

Both teams have very similar resumes at this point. So either one saying the other team would be on the bubble is by default saying your own team would be on the bubble.

At least Cincy has a Top 30 RPI win. WSU isn’t even close.

While true .. You have a Neutral #28 win. WSU has a Neutral #43 win. Those are both the same category (Tier 1)

WSU's is also a Major 7 win, which means it's RPI is more likely to go UP than Buffalo's which is more likely to fall by the end of the year. @Baylor and @OSU also could move to tier 1

Yet again ... similar resumes.

Cincy has two. Miss St and UCLA will also likely go up. But I digress. WSU has TWO bad conference losses. Cincy has none. Remember that sporting News poll? One can quibble as to its merits, but real sports analysts are making such determinations.

Miss State was at home .. It will get nowhere near a Tier 1 win. It should stay a Tier 2 win though. UCLA is a good win though.

WSU has 1 Tier 1 conference loss and 1 Tier 2. Neither are bad as you refer to them.

Payday seriously ... it's ok to admit there are teams that on a similar level to your beloved Cincy. That doesn't make them bad ...

(01-26-2018 11:41 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Neither Cincinnati, a top 10 team right now nor Wichita State in the top 20 are on the bubble

Very true. And no one is making such claims. But it’s undeniable that another non Cincy loss could start that discussion. I can see it now...WSU needs a win over Cincy to get off the bubble...

So where does WSU come up with this 7-2 Tier 1-2 record when the have 4 losses?

(01-26-2018 11:45 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:43 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:38 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:36 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:35 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  Both teams have very similar resumes at this point. So either one saying the other team would be on the bubble is by default saying your own team would be on the bubble.

At least Cincy has a Top 30 RPI win. WSU isn’t even close.

While true .. You have a Neutral #28 win. WSU has a Neutral #43 win. Those are both the same category (Tier 1)

WSU's is also a Major 7 win, which means it's RPI is more likely to go UP than Buffalo's which is more likely to fall by the end of the year. @Baylor and @OSU also could move to tier 1

Yet again ... similar resumes.

Cincy has two. Miss St and UCLA will also likely go up. But I digress. WSU has TWO bad conference losses. Cincy has none. Remember that sporting News poll? One can quibble as to its merits, but real sports analysts are making such determinations.

Miss State was at home .. It will get nowhere near a Tier 1 win. It should stay a Tier 2 win though. UCLA is a good win though.

WSU has 1 Tier 1 conference loss and 1 Tier 2. Neither are bad as you refer to them.

Payday seriously ... it's ok to admit there are teams that on a similar level to your beloved WSU. That doesn't make them bad ...

Coog fan fixed it for ya since some of y'all shocktop fans been having real heartburn over it.

(01-26-2018 11:47 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:41 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Neither Cincinnati, a top 10 team right now nor Wichita State in the top 20 are on the bubble

Very true. And no one is making such claims. But it’s undeniable that another non Cincy loss could start that discussion. I can see it now...WSU needs a win over Cincy to get off the bubble...

(01-26-2018 11:47 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:41 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Neither Cincinnati, a top 10 team right now nor Wichita State in the top 20 are on the bubble

Very true. And no one is making such claims. But it’s undeniable that another non Cincy loss could start that discussion. I can see it now...WSU needs a win over Cincy to get off the bubble...

No it wouldn't ...

(01-26-2018 11:49 AM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:45 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:43 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:38 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:36 AM)payday Wrote:  At least Cincy has a Top 30 RPI win. WSU isn’t even close.

While true .. You have a Neutral #28 win. WSU has a Neutral #43 win. Those are both the same category (Tier 1)

WSU's is also a Major 7 win, which means it's RPI is more likely to go UP than Buffalo's which is more likely to fall by the end of the year. @Baylor and @OSU also could move to tier 1

Yet again ... similar resumes.

Cincy has two. Miss St and UCLA will also likely go up. But I digress. WSU has TWO bad conference losses. Cincy has none. Remember that sporting News poll? One can quibble as to its merits, but real sports analysts are making such determinations.

Miss State was at home .. It will get nowhere near a Tier 1 win. It should stay a Tier 2 win though. UCLA is a good win though.

WSU has 1 Tier 1 conference loss and 1 Tier 2. Neither are bad as you refer to them.

Payday seriously ... it's ok to admit there are teams that on a similar level to your beloved WSU. That doesn't make them bad ...

Coog fan fixed it for ya since some of y'all shocktop fans been having real heartburn over it.

If you haven't read the last like 20 posts of this discussion .. I've made it very clear I think Cincy and WSU are on a similar level and resume at this point. I have no problem admitting that.

(01-26-2018 11:51 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:49 AM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:45 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:43 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:38 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  While true .. You have a Neutral #28 win. WSU has a Neutral #43 win. Those are both the same category (Tier 1)

WSU's is also a Major 7 win, which means it's RPI is more likely to go UP than Buffalo's which is more likely to fall by the end of the year. @Baylor and @OSU also could move to tier 1

Yet again ... similar resumes.

Cincy has two. Miss St and UCLA will also likely go up. But I digress. WSU has TWO bad conference losses. Cincy has none. Remember that sporting News poll? One can quibble as to its merits, but real sports analysts are making such determinations.

Miss State was at home .. It will get nowhere near a Tier 1 win. It should stay a Tier 2 win though. UCLA is a good win though.

WSU has 1 Tier 1 conference loss and 1 Tier 2. Neither are bad as you refer to them.

Payday seriously ... it's ok to admit there are teams that on a similar level to your beloved WSU. That doesn't make them bad ...

Coog fan fixed it for ya since some of y'all shocktop fans been having real heartburn over it.

If you haven't read the last like 20 posts of this discussion .. I've made it very clear I think Cincy and WSU are on a similar level and resume at this point. I have no problem admitting that.

I've been reading along... whew! tiresome!

But you missed my point completely and it kinda ruins if it has to be explained so never mind.

(01-26-2018 11:22 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 09:20 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 12:00 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  What's Cincinnati's best win?

I mean SMU is technically our highest metric win. At UCLA might be second honestly. I get your point and it's somewhat valid, but be careful with that logic. What's WSUs best win?

Depends on the metric. The Committee still uses RPI. Cincy beat RPI #27 on a neutral court.

You’re hanging your hat on a neutral court win over a MAC team? rofl

(01-26-2018 11:31 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 10:49 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 10:40 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 10:15 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 09:16 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  He’s just trolling as usual.

Do you think WSU is a bubble team with another loss?

Not even close.

Then you can save your trolling commentary for your own.

How are we with the zero quality wins when I’ve already listed a page or 2 back that we are 7-2 versus the RPI groups 1 and 2?

4-2 vs RPI Group 1
3-0 vs RPI Group 2

Wins in G1 and G2 are quality wins by definition.

Your trolling sucks much like your teams ability to work through screens...

So you too think WSU is a bubble team with a loss?

Don’t get mad at me. I asked what UC’s best win was and even you can’t answer it.

You get your parties in a wad when Cold lights this place up but I’m supposed to just sit back and take it when payday makes a completely inciting troll post?

Nah.

(01-26-2018 11:43 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:38 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:36 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:35 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:31 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  How are we with the zero quality wins when I’ve already listed a page or 2 back that we are 7-2 versus the RPI groups 1 and 2?

4-2 vs RPI Group 1
3-0 vs RPI Group 2

Wins in G1 and G2 are quality wins by definition.

You’re trolling sucks much like your teams ability to work through screens...

Both teams have very similar resumes at this point. So either one saying the other team would be on the bubble is by default saying your own team would be on the bubble.

At least Cincy has a Top 30 RPI win. WSU isn’t even close.

While true .. You have a Neutral #28 win. WSU has a Neutral #43 win. Those are both the same category (Tier 1)

WSU's is also a Major 7 win, which means it's RPI is more likely to go UP than Buffalo's which is more likely to fall by the end of the year. @Baylor and @OSU also could move to tier 1

Yet again ... similar resumes.

Cincy has two. Miss St and UCLA will also likely go up. But I digress. WSU has TWO bad conference losses. Cincy has none. Remember that sporting News poll? One can quibble as to its merits, but real sports analysts are making such determinations.

You must think this conference really sucks or your IQ just really sucks.

(01-26-2018 11:53 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:22 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 09:20 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 12:00 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  What's Cincinnati's best win?

I mean SMU is technically our highest metric win. At UCLA might be second honestly. I get your point and it's somewhat valid, but be careful with that logic. What's WSUs best win?

Depends on the metric. The Committee still uses RPI. Cincy beat RPI #27 on a neutral court.

You’re hanging your hat on a neutral court win over a MAC team? rofl

Why are you Dissing the MAC. Sure Buffalo is running thru a very weak conference, but the Committee make allowances for that. They sure did for WSU.

(01-26-2018 11:59 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:53 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:22 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 09:20 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 12:00 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  What's Cincinnati's best win?

I mean SMU is technically our highest metric win. At UCLA might be second honestly. I get your point and it's somewhat valid, but be careful with that logic. What's WSUs best win?

Depends on the metric. The Committee still uses RPI. Cincy beat RPI #27 on a neutral court.

You’re hanging your hat on a neutral court win over a MAC team? rofl

Why are you Dissing the MAC. Sure Buffalo is running thru a very weak conference, but the Committee make allowances for that. They sure did for WSU.

LMFAO.

(01-26-2018 11:59 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:53 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:22 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 09:20 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 12:00 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  What's Cincinnati's best win?

I mean SMU is technically our highest metric win. At UCLA might be second honestly. I get your point and it's somewhat valid, but be careful with that logic. What's WSUs best win?

Depends on the metric. The Committee still uses RPI. Cincy beat RPI #27 on a neutral court.

You’re hanging your hat on a neutral court win over a MAC team? rofl

Why are you Dissing the MAC. Sure Buffalo is running thru a very weak conference, but the Committee make allowances for that. They sure did for WSU.

Like it or not .. Buffalo doesn't carry the name weight of WSU or Gonzaga or St Marys or any of the other name brand non-Major 7 teams (prior to this year). That DOES matter. There is a reason Buffalo isn't getting any poll votes. (#74 in Kenpom doesn't help)

(01-26-2018 11:43 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:38 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:36 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:35 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:31 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  How are we with the zero quality wins when I’ve already listed a page or 2 back that we are 7-2 versus the RPI groups 1 and 2?

4-2 vs RPI Group 1
3-0 vs RPI Group 2

Wins in G1 and G2 are quality wins by definition.

You’re trolling sucks much like your teams ability to work through screens...

Both teams have very similar resumes at this point. So either one saying the other team would be on the bubble is by default saying your own team would be on the bubble.

At least Cincy has a Top 30 RPI win. WSU isn’t even close.

While true .. You have a Neutral #28 win. WSU has a Neutral #43 win. Those are both the same category (Tier 1)

WSU's is also a Major 7 win, which means it's RPI is more likely to go UP than Buffalo's which is more likely to fall by the end of the year. @Baylor and @OSU also could move to tier 1

Yet again ... similar resumes.

Cincy has two. Miss St and UCLA will also likely go up. But I digress. WSU has TWO bad conference losses. Cincy has none. Remember that sporting News poll? One can quibble as to its merits, but real sports analysts are making such determinations.

Yeah a tier 1 loss to Houston is a bad loss- NOT. Even the home loss to SMU isn't that bad- it's a tier 2 loss right now, but won't go to tier 3 almost certainly......

Wichita has a lot going for it in relation to Cincy. SOS, OOC SOS, average RPI win. If they finish with the same record, Wichita would get the better seeding, and it wouldn't come close.

Cincy has to hope that UCLA doesn't fall down or that would remove one of their tier 1 wins. Same frankly with UCF now. Wichita has more of a chance of their win @ Oklahoma St elevating to a tier 1 win.

(01-26-2018 12:01 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:59 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:53 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 11:22 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 09:20 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  I mean SMU is technically our highest metric win. At UCLA might be second honestly. I get your point and it's somewhat valid, but be careful with that logic. What's WSUs best win?

Depends on the metric. The Committee still uses RPI. Cincy beat RPI #27 on a neutral court.

You’re hanging your hat on a neutral court win over a MAC team? rofl

Why are you Dissing the MAC. Sure Buffalo is running thru a very weak conference, but the Committee make allowances for that. They sure did for WSU.

Like it or not .. Buffalo doesn't carry the name weight of WSU or Gonzaga or St Marys or any of the other name brand Major 7 teams (prior to this year). That DOES matter. There is a reason Buffalo isn't getting any poll votes. (#74 in Kenpom doesn't help)

Only cause they haven’t made a FF. Do so...and they become a media darling just like VCU, Gonzaga, George Mason, and WSU. But it’s fleeting. As GM and VCU are proving. And with another loss or two...WSU is about to.