https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/...4ed84ff64f

Mollie Hemingway puts it well again.

...My expectations were low — so low that he could have met them by simply not being President Hillary Clinton. But a year into this presidency, he’s exceeded those expectations by quite a bit. I’m thrilled.

https://pilotonline.com/opinion/columnis...1195f.html

He also isn't Obama-article on the "vanishing Obama presidency."

He was a liberal first, at least that is what he put out when the Republican was in office. Scary to think how people can get sucked in by Trump. What happens when he goes rogue one too many times?

In recent polls 82% of Trump voters say they would vote for him again. I think we could all agree his win was not a blowout. For him to win reelection, it would depend on what the percentage is in a few key states. I think it is very shaky for him it could go either way.

Me personally I think his style and his policies are going to his downfall.

(01-20-2018 01:54 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  He was a liberal first, at least that is what he put out when the Republican was in office. Scary to think how people can get sucked in by Trump. What happens when he goes rogue one too many times?

In recent polls 82% of Trump voters say they would vote for him again. I think we could all agree his win was not a blowout. For him to win reelection, it would depend on what the percentage is in a few key states. I think it is very shaky for him it could go either way.

Me personally I think his style and his policies are going to his downfall.

you'd be wrong again....he's a pragmatic centrist.....just somebody else I know....

I didn't have it at Reagan level, but I made the comparison.....I bet 3 benjis on him.....

the west coast is now forever lost....

you weren't around pre-election.....

it's there to review if you care to ride the 'do the due' choo-choo.....that train was rollin' long ago.....

we simply needed someone with some cajones hangin' ......

(01-20-2018 02:03 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 01:54 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  He was a liberal first, at least that is what he put out when the Republican was in office. Scary to think how people can get sucked in by Trump. What happens when he goes rogue one too many times?

In recent polls 82% of Trump voters say they would vote for him again. I think we could all agree his win was not a blowout. For him to win reelection, it would depend on what the percentage is in a few key states. I think it is very shaky for him it could go either way.

Me personally I think his style and his policies are going to his downfall.

you'd be wrong again....he's a pragmatic centrist.....just somebody else I know....

I didn't have it at Reagan level, but I made the comparison.....I bet 3 benjis on him.....

the west coast is now forever lost....

you weren't around pre-election.....

it's there to review if you care to ride the 'do the due' choo-choo.....that train was rollin' long ago.....

we simply needed someone with some cajones hangin' ......

I guess my magic 8 ball it broken and yours works

(01-20-2018 01:54 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  He was a liberal first, at least that is what he put out when the Republican was in office. Scary to think how people can get sucked in by Trump. What happens when he goes rogue one too many times?

In recent polls 82% of Trump voters say they would vote for him again. I think we could all agree his win was not a blowout. For him to win reelection, it would depend on what the percentage is in a few key states. I think it is very shaky for him it could go either way.

Me personally I think his style and his policies are going to his downfall.

His policies are what prop him up in spite of his style, as the article states.

(01-20-2018 02:11 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 02:03 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 01:54 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  He was a liberal first, at least that is what he put out when the Republican was in office. Scary to think how people can get sucked in by Trump. What happens when he goes rogue one too many times?

In recent polls 82% of Trump voters say they would vote for him again. I think we could all agree his win was not a blowout. For him to win reelection, it would depend on what the percentage is in a few key states. I think it is very shaky for him it could go either way.

Me personally I think his style and his policies are going to his downfall.

you'd be wrong again....he's a pragmatic centrist.....just somebody else I know....

I didn't have it at Reagan level, but I made the comparison.....I bet 3 benjis on him.....

the west coast is now forever lost....

you weren't around pre-election.....

it's there to review if you care to ride the 'do the due' choo-choo.....that train was rollin' long ago.....

we simply needed someone with some cajones hangin' ......

I guess my magic 8 ball it broken and yours works

it did to the tune of 1.4k on those wagers I posted beforehand.....

and it's grown much more since.....

(01-20-2018 02:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 01:54 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  He was a liberal first, at least that is what he put out when the Republican was in office. Scary to think how people can get sucked in by Trump. What happens when he goes rogue one too many times?

In recent polls 82% of Trump voters say they would vote for him again. I think we could all agree his win was not a blowout. For him to win reelection, it would depend on what the percentage is in a few key states. I think it is very shaky for him it could go either way.

Me personally I think his style and his policies are going to his downfall.

His policies are what prop him up in spite of his style, as the article states.

They are op eds. So it is not surprising a conservative would write they are going to side with him. My point was 18% of people that voted for him say they will not do it again. He did not win by a large margin so would not having that 18% cost him reelection? I don't know. I also don't know if that 18% will go up or down before 2020.

(01-20-2018 02:42 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 02:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 01:54 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  He was a liberal first, at least that is what he put out when the Republican was in office. Scary to think how people can get sucked in by Trump. What happens when he goes rogue one too many times?

In recent polls 82% of Trump voters say they would vote for him again. I think we could all agree his win was not a blowout. For him to win reelection, it would depend on what the percentage is in a few key states. I think it is very shaky for him it could go either way.

Me personally I think his style and his policies are going to his downfall.

His policies are what prop him up in spite of his style, as the article states.

They are op eds. So it is not surprising a conservative would write they are going to side with him. My point was 18% of people that voted for him say they will not do it again. He did not win by a large margin so would not having that 18% cost him reelection? I don't know. I also don't know if that 18% will go up or down before 2020.

ewe really should reread what you just wrote....

you just defied the 'law of rhetoric' like my ex-wife.....

(01-20-2018 02:44 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 02:42 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 02:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 01:54 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  He was a liberal first, at least that is what he put out when the Republican was in office. Scary to think how people can get sucked in by Trump. What happens when he goes rogue one too many times?

In recent polls 82% of Trump voters say they would vote for him again. I think we could all agree his win was not a blowout. For him to win reelection, it would depend on what the percentage is in a few key states. I think it is very shaky for him it could go either way.

Me personally I think his style and his policies are going to his downfall.

His policies are what prop him up in spite of his style, as the article states.

They are op eds. So it is not surprising a conservative would write they are going to side with him. My point was 18% of people that voted for him say they will not do it again. He did not win by a large margin so would not having that 18% cost him reelection? I don't know. I also don't know if that 18% will go up or down before 2020.

ewe really should reread what you just wrote....

you just defied the 'law of rhetoric' like my ex-wife.....

I said the posted articles were op eds and considering the authors political leanings before Trumps election their positions are not surprising.

My point was yes he has supporters but does he have enough supporters to win election?

You winning wagers for the last election has nothing to do with the 2020 election. I am hedging and saying there is not information at this time to make a "sure thing" bet.

Welcome aboard, Ms. Hemingway! Someone get her a coat!

(01-20-2018 02:42 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 02:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 01:54 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  He was a liberal first, at least that is what he put out when the Republican was in office. Scary to think how people can get sucked in by Trump. What happens when he goes rogue one too many times?

In recent polls 82% of Trump voters say they would vote for him again. I think we could all agree his win was not a blowout. For him to win reelection, it would depend on what the percentage is in a few key states. I think it is very shaky for him it could go either way.

Me personally I think his style and his policies are going to his downfall.

His policies are what prop him up in spite of his style, as the article states.

They are op eds. So it is not surprising a conservative would write they are going to side with him. My point was 18% of people that voted for him say they will not do it again. He did not win by a large margin so would not having that 18% cost him reelection? I don't know. I also don't know if that 18% will go up or down before 2020.

got a link for that? First you said polls had 82% that said they will vote for Trump again. That doesn't mean the other 18% wont. Most people that change their mind are not that sure. My guess that 18% is a lot lower with a maybe in it.

But then again we are going by poll numbers....

Trump has no chance to be President

You are leaving out those that have switched and today would vote for Trump. I know 4 of those personally...all long time democrats. A couple in their mid 50s bot working at Wal Mart. Two others are my brother and sister (all of us are long time democrats with myself being more centered) it just took them a little longer to see our party left us behind. And that President Trump is closer to being a democrat (party of the working people) than we had the last 8 years. Both of my siblings voted for Obama. I voted for him the first time. I'm sure there are a lot out there

(01-20-2018 03:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 02:42 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 02:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 01:54 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  He was a liberal first, at least that is what he put out when the Republican was in office. Scary to think how people can get sucked in by Trump. What happens when he goes rogue one too many times?

In recent polls 82% of Trump voters say they would vote for him again. I think we could all agree his win was not a blowout. For him to win reelection, it would depend on what the percentage is in a few key states. I think it is very shaky for him it could go either way.

Me personally I think his style and his policies are going to his downfall.

His policies are what prop him up in spite of his style, as the article states.

They are op eds. So it is not surprising a conservative would write they are going to side with him. My point was 18% of people that voted for him say they will not do it again. He did not win by a large margin so would not having that 18% cost him reelection? I don't know. I also don't know if that 18% will go up or down before 2020.

got a link for that? First you said polls had 82% that said they will vote for Trump again. That doesn't mean the other 18% wont. Most people that change their mind are not that sure. My guess that 18% is a lot lower with a maybe in it.

But then again we are going by poll numbers....

Trump has no chance to be President

You are leaving out those that have switched and today would vote for Trump. I know 4 of those personally...all long time democrats. A couple in their mid 50s bot working at Wal Mart. Two others are my brother and sister (all of us are long time democrats) it just took them a little longer to see our party left us behind. And that President Trump is closer to being a democrat (party of the working people) than we had the last 8 years. Both of my siblings voted for Obama. I voted for him the first time. I'm sure there are a lot out there

As I said, I don't have enough information at this time. I use "if" for that very reason and even said I don't know if it would change the result. I actually heard the number on Vice News. I am guessing they got the number from this:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrati...o-it-again

And as far as the polls go, Trumps victory was within the margin of error.

(01-20-2018 02:55 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 02:44 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 02:42 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 02:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 01:54 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  He was a liberal first, at least that is what he put out when the Republican was in office. Scary to think how people can get sucked in by Trump. What happens when he goes rogue one too many times?

In recent polls 82% of Trump voters say they would vote for him again. I think we could all agree his win was not a blowout. For him to win reelection, it would depend on what the percentage is in a few key states. I think it is very shaky for him it could go either way.

Me personally I think his style and his policies are going to his downfall.

His policies are what prop him up in spite of his style, as the article states.

They are op eds. So it is not surprising a conservative would write they are going to side with him. My point was 18% of people that voted for him say they will not do it again. He did not win by a large margin so would not having that 18% cost him reelection? I don't know. I also don't know if that 18% will go up or down before 2020.

ewe really should reread what you just wrote....

you just defied the 'law of rhetoric' like my ex-wife.....

I said the posted articles were op eds and considering the authors political leanings before Trumps election their positions are not surprising.

My point was yes he has supporters but does he have enough supporters to win election?

You winning wagers for the last election has nothing to do with the 2020 election. I am hedging and saying there is not information at this time to make a "sure thing" bet.

I can tell you this.....you won't see 5:1 this next go round.....

and I'm in the camp it's Pence in '20.....

DJT was only necessary to get these stupid gaylord fokkers off their arse.....I guarantee he's already sick of this stupid arse shite....

(01-20-2018 02:42 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 02:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 01:54 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  He was a liberal first, at least that is what he put out when the Republican was in office. Scary to think how people can get sucked in by Trump. What happens when he goes rogue one too many times?

In recent polls 82% of Trump voters say they would vote for him again. I think we could all agree his win was not a blowout. For him to win reelection, it would depend on what the percentage is in a few key states. I think it is very shaky for him it could go either way.

Me personally I think his style and his policies are going to his downfall.

His policies are what prop him up in spite of his style, as the article states.

They are op eds. So it is not surprising a conservative would write they are going to side with him. My point was 18% of people that voted for him say they will not do it again. He did not win by a large margin so would not having that 18% cost him reelection? I don't know. I also don't know if that 18% will go up or down before 2020.

Actually you said the survey said 82% would vote for him again, not that 18% would not. There IS a difference. Maybe 18% weren't sure. You would probably get a similar number with Hillary. Maybe lower as she was more popular on election day than Trump and now is less popular. In any event, polls will be polls. They've proven pretty unreliable in relations to President and candidate Trump.

Still its a nonsequitir. It isn't his policies that give him low approval ratings. Its his tweets.

(01-20-2018 04:15 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 02:55 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 02:44 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 02:42 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 02:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  His policies are what prop him up in spite of his style, as the article states.

They are op eds. So it is not surprising a conservative would write they are going to side with him. My point was 18% of people that voted for him say they will not do it again. He did not win by a large margin so would not having that 18% cost him reelection? I don't know. I also don't know if that 18% will go up or down before 2020.

ewe really should reread what you just wrote....

you just defied the 'law of rhetoric' like my ex-wife.....

I said the posted articles were op eds and considering the authors political leanings before Trumps election their positions are not surprising.

My point was yes he has supporters but does he have enough supporters to win election?

You winning wagers for the last election has nothing to do with the 2020 election. I am hedging and saying there is not information at this time to make a "sure thing" bet.

I can tell you this.....you won't see 5:1 this next go round.....

and I'm in the camp it's Pence in '20.....

DJT was only necessary to get these stupid gaylord fokkers off their arse.....I guarantee he's already sick of this stupid arse shite....

I never thought he would run again. Still not convinced. He can do other things than just being a politician.

(01-20-2018 04:39 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 04:15 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 02:55 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 02:44 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 02:42 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  They are op eds. So it is not surprising a conservative would write they are going to side with him. My point was 18% of people that voted for him say they will not do it again. He did not win by a large margin so would not having that 18% cost him reelection? I don't know. I also don't know if that 18% will go up or down before 2020.

ewe really should reread what you just wrote....

you just defied the 'law of rhetoric' like my ex-wife.....

I said the posted articles were op eds and considering the authors political leanings before Trumps election their positions are not surprising.

My point was yes he has supporters but does he have enough supporters to win election?

You winning wagers for the last election has nothing to do with the 2020 election. I am hedging and saying there is not information at this time to make a "sure thing" bet.

I can tell you this.....you won't see 5:1 this next go round.....

and I'm in the camp it's Pence in '20.....

DJT was only necessary to get these stupid gaylord fokkers off their arse.....I guarantee he's already sick of this stupid arse shite....

I never thought he would run again. Still not convinced. He can do other things than just being a politician.

we got a long ways to go until then.....he'll do it if he has to......I simply think he's grooming Pence...

as I've stated before, "notice who's staying silent in the background...."

I don't get 'em all right.....but this one is perfectly scripted....

(01-20-2018 02:42 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 02:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 01:54 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  He was a liberal first, at least that is what he put out when the Republican was in office. Scary to think how people can get sucked in by Trump. What happens when he goes rogue one too many times?

In recent polls 82% of Trump voters say they would vote for him again. I think we could all agree his win was not a blowout. For him to win reelection, it would depend on what the percentage is in a few key states. I think it is very shaky for him it could go either way.

Me personally I think his style and his policies are going to his downfall.

His policies are what prop him up in spite of his style, as the article states.

They are op eds. So it is not surprising a conservative would write they are going to side with him. My point was 18% of people that voted for him say they will not do it again. He did not win by a large margin so would not having that 18% cost him reelection? I don't know. I also don't know if that 18% will go up or down before 2020.

You people should have learned your lesson about polls last November.

(01-20-2018 02:55 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  I said the posted articles were op eds and considering the authors political leanings before Trumps election their positions are not surprising.

My point was yes he has supporters but does he have enough supporters to win election?

You winning wagers for the last election has nothing to do with the 2020 election. I am hedging and saying there is not information at this time to make a "sure thing" bet.

Well, as the man whose mom screwed a Martian once said, "it's the economy, stupid".

If the economy continues to improve, and more importantly, if Trump's policies make positive difference in the lives of rust state voters, the great blue wall will once again will be lost to democrats, as will the White House.

(01-20-2018 07:59 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 02:42 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 02:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 01:54 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  He was a liberal first, at least that is what he put out when the Republican was in office. Scary to think how people can get sucked in by Trump. What happens when he goes rogue one too many times?

In recent polls 82% of Trump voters say they would vote for him again. I think we could all agree his win was not a blowout. For him to win reelection, it would depend on what the percentage is in a few key states. I think it is very shaky for him it could go either way.

Me personally I think his style and his policies are going to his downfall.

His policies are what prop him up in spite of his style, as the article states.

They are op eds. So it is not surprising a conservative would write they are going to side with him. My point was 18% of people that voted for him say they will not do it again. He did not win by a large margin so would not having that 18% cost him reelection? I don't know. I also don't know if that 18% will go up or down before 2020.

You people should have learned your lesson about polls last November.

Within the margin of errors. What part of that do you not understand Sparky?