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(01-18-2018 09:47 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Oh yeah. Totally Y'all's defense is clearly better than USC, Miami, Auburn, etc.

Only has to be better than your offense.
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(01-18-2018 09:49 PM)MUther Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 09:47 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Oh yeah. Totally Y'all's defense is clearly better than USC, Miami, Auburn, etc.

Only has to be better than your offense.

Which has been fairly easy tonight, because we keep throwing the ball into the seats. Are you guys actually watching the game? About a dozen unforced turnovers.
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(01-18-2018 09:47 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Oh yeah. Totally Y'all's defense is clearly better than USC, Miami, Auburn, etc.

Well now its just because we are better conditioned. Airball = no legs. Gassed
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(01-18-2018 09:51 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 09:49 PM)MUther Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 09:47 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Oh yeah. Totally Y'all's defense is clearly better than USC, Miami, Auburn, etc.

Only has to be better than your offense.

Which has been fairly easy tonight, because we keep throwing the ball into the seats. Are you guys actually watching the game? About a dozen unforced turnovers.

We had the same kind of game vs WKU. But that didn't stop your asshat buddy from calling us out. Why are you defending him, anyway?
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This would be a very good win for us IF we can hold on. Lots of respect for a great MT program.
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(01-18-2018 09:53 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  This would be a very good win for us IF we can hold on. Lots of respect for a great MT program.

WKU will flat smoke them if they don't get their act together, whether we win or lose.
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(01-18-2018 09:47 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Oh yeah. Totally Y'all's defense is clearly better than USC, Miami, Auburn, etc.

Maybe not, but better that MTSU's defense.
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BALLGAME, HERD!!!
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One of the most dominating wins you'll ever see from two teams that are at or nearly at full strength. MT never led, lost their legs with about 6 minutes left, and fought to the end though. Statement game from the Herd. Looking forward to getting a rematch with WKU, even on the road.
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Middle Tenn 63
Marshall 73
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Yes Ajdin Penava is that important. he had 17 points, 7 rebounds and 7 blocks in his 1st game back. Marshall held Middle Tenn to .85 points per possession. Yes there is "Defense" being played in Huntington, no matter how much TIBL wants to say no.
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(01-18-2018 09:51 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Which has been fairly easy tonight, because we keep throwing the ball into the seats. Are you guys actually watching the game? About a dozen unforced turnovers.

Well, I'd recommend that your guys don't do that. That's not very good basketball.
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Good game Marshall. You guys deserved it. Agree with Capel. Y'all were tougher. Sloppiest game we've played since about 2011. King never even got off the bus. He might have lost POY tonight. Puts Elmore in the drivers seat.

It's unfortunate you didn't get MT's A-game as that would have given you a better indication on whether you can win the league. Worst game we've played this year. You can be assured you won't see the same team in March.

Good luck until then.
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Marshall straight up kicked your ass.....please stop with the "we played bad" stuff.

Most teams "play bad" when the other team is better.
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(01-18-2018 10:03 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Good game Marshall. You guys deserved it. Agree with Capel. Y'all were tougher. Sloppiest game we've played since about 2011. King never even got off the bus. He might have lost POY tonight. Puts Elmore in the drivers seat.

It's unfortunate you didn't get MT's A-game as that would have given you a better indication on whether you can win the league. Worst game we've played this year. You can be assured you won't see the same team in March.

Good luck until then.

Work on that conditioning, the tourney will be tough with hands on the hips and knees with 8 minutes left
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I'm just glad that jump ball didn't ruin the game for him. By the way I watched that again and they both came down with the ball after the block. It was a good call.
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(01-18-2018 10:02 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  Middle Tenn 63
Marshall 73
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Yes Ajdin Penava is that important. he had 17 points, 7 rebounds and 7 blocks in his 1st game back. Marshall held Middle Tenn to .85 points per possession. Yes there is "Defense" being played in Huntington, no matter how much TIBL wants to say no.

I didn't say you aren't playing defense. I just said it wasn't so much your defense as it was our own unforced errors. Of our conference high 19 turnovers more than half were not from steals. And I counted three or four of the steals that was our guys being lazy with the ball. It was just pure sloppiness. We were not aggressive on offense at all. We could have driven the ball all night pulled Penava off his man and dumped it off for easy layups. It was open all night. We just didn't have the killer instinct. Marshall did.

What did effect us was Penava's presence down low. I think he took away our post guys. Only six pts from Walters and King was only 6-of-19 04-jawdrop

It's just rare to see us be this lackluster for a full 40 minutes. That's not a knock to Marshall. You guys were the better team tonight and that's all that matters. We just didn't play well and that's disappointing.
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(01-18-2018 10:12 PM)MUther Wrote:  I'm just glad that jump ball didn't ruin the game for him. By the way I watched that again and they both came down with the ball after the block. It was a good call.

Nope. Ball was dislodged as Hawthorne was coming down. Clear daylight. Look again.
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One thing I'm really concerned about is that we are in a major funk offensively. Kermit even mentioned this post game that we are struggling on offense.

Again, this is not disparage anyone else or be a knock on the rest of the league, but our non-conference schedule was tougher than our conference schedule yet MT averaged 75 pts in the non-conference - and that's removing the 100+ point game against the DII school. We have only averaged 65 in conference play.

We're just not in a good place right now on offense. If you Marshall fans want to take that as you now have the most dominant defense in the league knock yourself out. ;-) Don't let those law of averages catch up to you though! With our offense trending - no make that taking a nose dive I have my own team's issues to worry about. Cheers.
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Wasn't it MT Fan that mocked our defense? Haven't seen him post in this thread. That's odd.
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(01-18-2018 10:32 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  One thing I'm really concerned about is that we are in a major funk offensively. Kermit even mentioned this post game that we are struggling on offense.

Again, this is not disparage anyone else or be a knock on the rest of the league, but our non-conference schedule was tougher than our conference schedule yet MT averaged 75 pts in the non-conference - and that's removing the 100+ point game against the DII school. We have only averaged 65 in conference play.

We're just not in a good place right now on offense. If you Marshall fans want to take that as you now have the most dominant defense in the league knock yourself out. ;-) Don't let those law of averages catch up to you though! With our offense trending - no make that taking a nose dive I have my own team's issues to worry about. Cheers.

Oh I don't think we have the best defense by any stretch, but MT said we play no defense and we tried to tell him this year was different. And then WKU happened and he got all smug. So you caught the brunt of our retribution as he wasn't around. We play adequate defense to win tough games with our uptempo offense. It's not a gimmick O with no defense as he contended.
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