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UDD early 2018 rankings
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Thoughts. For the Panthers they hit the hammer on the head. Qb and rb are our biggest concerns. It’s no secret we want to run the ball. Because we can’t get any worst I say it improves some. Defense has been good in my opinion not elite but not terrible but losing Sullivan is gonna hurt.
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Troy should again challenge for a title. Our front seven doesn't lose a lot and the talent infusion there is incredible. I can't see us being worse there. They were one of the best in college football last season and this year could be even better. Corners Blace Brown and Marcus Jones, as well as safety Cedarius Rook are the best in the league. Depth in the secondary is a concern though.

Offensively we are loaded at the skill position and offensive line. It's just a matter of finding a quarterback replacement and that's no tall order. Special teams wasn't great last season, but hopefully that will improve.
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Quote:Clifton Duck is a top five corner in all of college football and 2018 may be the junior’s final year in Boone.

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UDD early 2018 rankings
7th would indicate a disaster season. Let's see if the second RB signs or not. We have thevtwo most talented QB recruits we have ever had. I am more concerned about defense than offense to be honest.

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(01-15-2018 01:09 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  
Quote:Clifton Duck is a top five corner in all of college football and 2018 may be the junior’s final year in Boone.

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Has App ever had a player leave early to enter the NFL Draft?
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(01-15-2018 01:27 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 01:09 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  
Quote:Clifton Duck is a top five corner in all of college football and 2018 may be the junior’s final year in Boone.

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Has App ever had a player leave early to enter the NFL Draft?

Not to my knowledge. Accurate assessment of the Apps, but would be shocked if Duck leaves early for the NFL.
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7th place? hmm let's review his reasoning..
1) "panthers will have to find a new starting QB"- true, but either Walker or Ellington would be an upgrade over Manning.
2) "questions at RB"- maybe but Bateman and Barnett combo should be an upgrade over Kyler Neal and Glenn Smith. Also, we have 2 dynamic RBs incoming this recruiting cycle to make immediate contributions.
3) "lost key difference makers at defense"- The young guys at DL, DE, LB positions stepped up to make key plays when they were inserted as rotation players. I am bit worried about DBs, but we did recruit well in those positions. Applin and Smith are still there to lead the DB group.

7th place means our record will be 4-8 or 3-9. I don't see that unless something went terribly wrong.
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(01-15-2018 02:29 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  7th place? hmm let's review his reasoning..
1) "panthers will have to find a new starting QB"- true, but either Walker or Ellington would be an upgrade over Manning.
2) "questions at RB"- maybe but Bateman and Barnett combo should be an upgrade over Kyler Neal and Glenn Smith. Also, we have 2 dynamic RBs incoming this recruiting cycle to make immediate contributions.
3) "lost key difference makers at defense"- The young guys at DL, DE, LB positions stepped up to make key plays when they were inserted as rotation players. I am bit worried about DBs, but we did recruit well in those positions. Applin and Smith are still there to lead the DB group.

7th place means our record will be 4-8 or 3-9. I don't see that unless something went terribly wrong.
Regarding #2. If the 2nd FL kid signs those are you starters. Quantum leap in RB talent.

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(01-15-2018 01:09 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  
Quote:Clifton Duck is a top five corner in all of college football and 2018 may be the junior’s final year in Boone.

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Yea, saying next year will be Duck's final season a little over the top.
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App gets a huge add to it's WR group with K State transfer Corey Sutton. He killed it on the scout team. Started played as a true freshman at K State and had 4 catches for 54 yards. His Dad is former App DB and Corey chose K State over App a few days before signing day. Duck said he was the best WR he's ever had to cover. With Hennigan, Williams, Virgil, the return of Evans and a few others who redshirted last season, the talent level of this WR bunch is ridiculous.
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Wow....Outside of saying Troy and ArkSt will likely be two of the better teams that is a bunch of throwing **** against the wall and hope it sticks article I have ever seen.

I can tell you if GS finishes 8th our AD will probably just quit and Lunsford will not make it to the end of his contract. We dont have a talent problem yet at GS so if they cant win with what we have in the Belt he never will.
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Underdog Dynasty has really gone downhill ever since most of the writers who started it left to form Forgotten5.
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(01-15-2018 09:40 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Underdog Dynasty has really gone downhill ever since most of the writers who started it left to form Forgotten5.

Yeah but forgotten 5 isn’t all that either.
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(01-15-2018 10:18 PM)Golota Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 09:40 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Underdog Dynasty has really gone downhill ever since most of the writers who started it left to form Forgotten5.

Yeah but forgotten 5 isn’t all that either.

I just read it for AStateFanRules snark.

Otherwise...yeah, but where else are actual people going to cover us?
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(01-16-2018 12:32 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 10:18 PM)Golota Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 09:40 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Underdog Dynasty has really gone downhill ever since most of the writers who started it left to form Forgotten5.

Yeah but forgotten 5 isn’t all that either.

I just read it for AStateFanRules snark.

Otherwise...yeah, but where else are actual people going to cover us?
Forgotten5 lost my respect when they said ULM had chance or whatever going 0-12 in 2016 and naming Marcus Green 2nd team special teams behind the guy from Troy. The guy from Troy is good good but come on.
UD IMO finally got it right on this for next season. I think ULM is the 4th best team in SBC. People can laugh and back hand compliment all they want but 2018 is shaping good for us.
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(01-16-2018 09:51 AM)Golota Wrote:  
(01-16-2018 12:32 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 10:18 PM)Golota Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 09:40 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Underdog Dynasty has really gone downhill ever since most of the writers who started it left to form Forgotten5.

Yeah but forgotten 5 isn’t all that either.

I just read it for AStateFanRules snark.

Otherwise...yeah, but where else are actual people going to cover us?
Forgotten5 lost my respect when they said ULM had chance or whatever going 0-12 in 2016 and naming Marcus Green 2nd team special teams behind the guy from Troy. The guy from Troy is good good but come on.
UD IMO finally got it right on this for next season. I think ULM is the 4th best team in SBC. People can laugh and back hand compliment all they want but 2018 is shaping good for us.

Both guys are All-Americans so is it really that much of an offense to choose the guy from Troy over your guy? Personally, Marcus Green had a better year than Marcus Jones, but it was close.

Offensively ULM will be tough to stop, but you guys had a middle of the pack D-II level defense this season. It's going to take a long time to shore that up.
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(01-16-2018 10:00 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(01-16-2018 09:51 AM)Golota Wrote:  
(01-16-2018 12:32 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 10:18 PM)Golota Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 09:40 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Underdog Dynasty has really gone downhill ever since most of the writers who started it left to form Forgotten5.

Yeah but forgotten 5 isn’t all that either.

I just read it for AStateFanRules snark.

Otherwise...yeah, but where else are actual people going to cover us?
Forgotten5 lost my respect when they said ULM had chance or whatever going 0-12 in 2016 and naming Marcus Green 2nd team special teams behind the guy from Troy. The guy from Troy is good good but come on.
UD IMO finally got it right on this for next season. I think ULM is the 4th best team in SBC. People can laugh and back hand compliment all they want but 2018 is shaping good for us.

Both guys are All-Americans so is it really that much of an offense to choose the guy from Troy over your guy? Personally, Marcus Green had a better year than Marcus Jones, but it was close.

Offensively ULM will be tough to stop, but you guys had a middle of the pack D-II level defense this season. It's going to take a long time to shore that up.

You just said “Marcus Green had a better year” averaged more yards and had one more TD on a couple less returns Marcus Green should have been first no questions asked.
Our defense will be better next year. How much better? Idk but it will be and to think otherwise isn’t bright. We don’t need to shore it up just needs to get better. When you’re playing 5 true freshman 55 snaps a game on defense sometimes and 9 redshirt/true freshman it might get ugly. Maybe we wil be lucky get to be a FCS D next year vs middle of the pack D2. We signed some key JUCO DL both had over 10 sacks and some JUCO DBs from Mississippi. On paper we’re doing what we need to do.
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(01-16-2018 09:51 AM)Golota Wrote:  
(01-16-2018 12:32 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 10:18 PM)Golota Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 09:40 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Underdog Dynasty has really gone downhill ever since most of the writers who started it left to form Forgotten5.

Yeah but forgotten 5 isn’t all that either.

I just read it for AStateFanRules snark.

Otherwise...yeah, but where else are actual people going to cover us?
Forgotten5 lost my respect when they said ULM had chance or whatever going 0-12 in 2016 and naming Marcus Green 2nd team special teams behind the guy from Troy. The guy from Troy is good good but come on.
UD IMO finally got it right on this for next season. I think ULM is the 4th best team in SBC. People can laughand back hand compliment all they want but 2018 is shaping good for us.

We can't possibly rank next year's teams this early. I can perhaps vaguely describe our expectations.

Elite (grade A)- contending for the Sunbelt title (8+ wins)
Ark State/Troy/App

Above Average (grade B)- dark horse for the Sunbelt title. Expect bowl eligibility (6-7 wins)
ULM

Below Average (grade C)- only expectations are... 1) competitive games 2) no blowout losses 3) player development. Sneaking into a bowl game would be a welcome bonus. (4-6 wins)
GS/UL/USA

Bottom (grade D)- haven't shown much to deserve high preseason expectations...but let's wait to see if the next year's squads will make improvements in all 3 phases of the game! (2-4 wins)
Texas State/Coastal Carolina

is this fair for everyone?

Not sure where GSU belongs. If I'm truly trying to be objective, I can argue for either B or C. Maybe B-.
In all honesty, I think ULM is the same boat as us. Could be B or C. Dangerous offense but really bad defense. I graded ULM on a curve because I don't want to ruffle any feathers. I'll take ULM fans' words for it that your defense will drastically improve next season for one reason or another (not being facetious whatsoever..think I read some explanations about lack of experience, maturity, and injuries).
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We got wiped out by injuries on defense and so some youth got experience. We also added some JUCO help. We will be better on D. How much? Who knows.
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