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Underneath Playoff glitz, a warning: College football could be headed into a ditch
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RE: Underneath Playoff glitz, a warning: College football could be headed into a ditch
I still think NCAA football would be perfect for promotion and relegation.
-P5-G5-FCS would be the divisions
-6 conferences per division, divisions grouped by region
-FCS & G5 conference winners promoted yearly
-Worst P5 & G5 team in each conference relegated yearly
-Division champs get immunity from relegation for the following season
-6-team playoff in each division with top two teams receiving byes
01-08-2018 03:06 PM
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RE: Underneath Playoff glitz, a warning: College football could be headed into a ditch
Just eliminate the conference championship games and adopt the FCS playoff system. The model is there. No one gives a damn if the bowls die. Everyone complains anyway. Maybe keep a few to be like the NIT. It's not rocket surgery.

The excuses don't hold water. So we are to believe the FCS fan bases can travel to playoff games and FBS can't. FCS players can play a 24 team playoff and FBS can't? It's all about greed and keeping the money for the tp programs.

Anyway, that bubble is gonnna pop before too long anyway.
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(01-08-2018 03:28 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Just eliminate the conference championship games and adopt the FCS playoff system. The model is there. No one gives a damn if the bowls die. Everyone complains anyway. Maybe keep a few to be like the NIT. It's not rocket surgery.

The excuses don't hold water. So we are to believe the FCS fan bases can travel to playoff games and FBS can't. FCS players can play a 24 team playoff and FBS can't? It's all about greed and keeping the money for the tp programs.

Anyway, that bubble is gonnna pop before too long anyway.

Agree! This was the first year I've even semi-followed the FCS playoff system and it was fun to watch!

I kept finding myself completely jealous of the model and hoping that one day we might experience the same thing.
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(01-08-2018 03:28 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Anyway, that bubble is gonnna pop before too long anyway.

I once thought so, but am no longer so sure. Well-organized and well-funded corruption can last a very long time absent some outside force with enough strength to overturn it and a will to do so. So they can pay a coordinator $1.8mill to hide profit (I doubt anyone really thinks the "market" demands this - it's simply easier than cashing it out and setting it on fire), and it's not doing to draw meaningful attention. No politician wants to take on bammer foobaw.

Eventually the masses will catch on that while the game may not be rigged, it's certainly scripted just like "reality" television. Entertainment businesses will catch on that they're forced to compete for eyeballs and dollars with tax-subsidized, donation-driven competitors. The bubble won't give way to a brave new future of real football; it will be a future without college football and possibly without football at all. But that's bubble deflation, not popping, and it could take decades to unravel.
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RE: Underneath Playoff glitz, a warning: College football could be headed into a ditch
(01-08-2018 11:09 PM)58-56 Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 03:28 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Anyway, that bubble is gonnna pop before too long anyway.

I once thought so, but am no longer so sure. Well-organized and well-funded corruption can last a very long time absent some outside force with enough strength to overturn it and a will to do so. So they can pay a coordinator $1.8mill to hide profit (I doubt anyone really thinks the "market" demands this - it's simply easier than cashing it out and setting it on fire), and it's not doing to draw meaningful attention. No politician wants to take on bammer foobaw.

Eventually the masses will catch on that while the game may not be rigged, it's certainly scripted just like "reality" television. Entertainment businesses will catch on that they're forced to compete for eyeballs and dollars with tax-subsidized, donation-driven competitors. The bubble won't give way to a brave new future of real football; it will be a future without college football and possibly without football at all. But that's bubble deflation, not popping, and it could take decades to unravel.

ESPN is sinking faster than anyone predicted, and it's not because it's gotten "political". Viewing habits have changed and fan bases have changed. NASCAR, the NFL, and division I colleges are going to have a rough next decade
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RE: Underneath Playoff glitz, a warning: College football could be headed into a ditch
"No one cares if the bowls die" except for the schools whose programs would not get any national recognition (or conference payouts) without them. There is also the list of cities for whom bowls are a principal source of national publicity and local tax revenue. The cavalier attitude of the top P5 royalty schools is highly destructive to the future of college football in general across America. I have not seen the FCS playoff games being hosted in "Jerry World", M-B in Atlanta or other such stadiums.

Coaches like Nick Saban, who propose that these wealthy teams only play each other assumes that high school programs would remain as is to feed hundreds of top athletes into the few remaining schools who can afford them. If there are not hundreds of college programs for these high school athletes to try for, these secondary school programs may die as well.

In Alabama we have already seen the devastating effects of deep cuts in state support of public schools on the number of "impact players" that attract top recruiters. Even the three 2nd tier FBS state schools have signed only a handful of instate talent since 2010, and then mainly from suburban schools. A Lee Roy Jordan, 195 lb center/LB, type player from Excell, AL (1A school) might not even get a second look from recruiters today.
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(01-09-2018 11:31 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  ESPN is sinking faster than anyone predicted, and it's not because it's gotten "political".

It's not completely because they got political, but they decided to get political at a time when they needed to do everything they could to keep as many viewers as possible. It was a very dumb decision.
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RE: Underneath Playoff glitz, a warning: College football could be headed into a ditch
(01-10-2018 09:06 AM)imjustafatkid Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 11:31 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  ESPN is sinking faster than anyone predicted, and it's not because it's gotten "political".

It's not completely because they got political, but they decided to get political at a time when they needed to do everything they could to keep as many viewers as possible. It was a very dumb decision.

That's a little bit true for their talking head shows but hardly anyone was watching that stuff anyway. No one is skipping games of their favorite college team because of Stephen A. Smith

Ratings declines and subscriber drops are also hitting sports that ESPN doesn't have rights to like NASCAR
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(01-10-2018 09:25 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  That's a little bit true for their talking head shows but hardly anyone was watching that stuff anyway. No one is skipping games of their favorite college team because of Stephen A. Smith

If they're cutting off ESPN because of political nonsense, then that's exactly what they're doing. Folks can't just cut off the talking head shows and keep the games. That sort of cable plan doesn't exist. The main problem ESPN has isn't with the ratings, it's with people completely removing their channels from their cable plans.

Quote:Ratings declines and subscriber drops are also hitting sports that ESPN doesn't have rights to like NASCAR

I don't know what to say about NASCAR, or car racing in general. It's boring to me. I can't understand why anyone ever watched it to start with.
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