By the way, Braun was hurt significantly by Rice's academic restrictions in recruiting. Also keep in mind that Braun took over a program that had completely bottomed out under Willis Wilson: Rice didn't win a conference game in Wilson's last year, and won 2 games all year I believe. So, Braun took over Rice at the beginning of a complete rebuild.

Context matters. I don't believe for a minute that Braun doesn't have it in him.

(01-08-2018 04:36 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  One of ben braun assistants was in the students section. He came over to an asked if was the same person from the bowen days. He wasn't water but one that went to cal with ben.

Man, if you see him again, tell him to get the band back together.

NOT WASHED UP:

http://www.sfchronicle.com/collegesports...273950.php

(01-08-2018 05:29 PM)holybovine Wrote:  NOT WASHED UP:

http://www.sfchronicle.com/collegesports...273950.php

Coaching AAU ball isn't washed up? Let's used the term retired from collegiate coaching...

I mean he could be coaching CYO but...

It's like a retired friend of mine doing voluntary tutoring for school children. Keeping busy but not doing one's career vocation.

(01-08-2018 05:36 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(01-08-2018 05:29 PM)holybovine Wrote:  NOT WASHED UP:

http://www.sfchronicle.com/collegesports...273950.php

Coaching AAU ball isn't washed up? Let's used the term retired from collegiate coaching...

I mean he could be coaching CYO but...

It's like a retired friend of mine doing voluntary tutoring for school children. Keeping busy but not doing one's career vocation.

He's got 5 and 8 yr old kids. Wow. That'll keep him young.

He's an intriguing coach to think about. The MAC was a different place 22 yrs ago when he left. He also surrounded himself with good/great assistants. Not sure if that well is dry. Also, he probably doesn't have many recruiting connections in the area. But still, it's definitely something to think about.

This is for Bob Keno Davis had zero connections to Central before he was hired guess it wasn't important to hire one of their own/alum

(01-08-2018 06:29 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(01-08-2018 05:36 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(01-08-2018 05:29 PM)holybovine Wrote:  NOT WASHED UP:

http://www.sfchronicle.com/collegesports...273950.php

Coaching AAU ball isn't washed up? Let's used the term retired from collegiate coaching...

I mean he could be coaching CYO but...

It's like a retired friend of mine doing voluntary tutoring for school children. Keeping busy but not doing one's career vocation.

He's got 5 and 8 yr old kids. Wow. That'll keep him young.

He's an intriguing coach to think about. The MAC was a different place 22 yrs ago when he left. He also surrounded himself with good/great assistants. Not sure if that well is dry. Also, he probably doesn't have many recruiting connections in the area. But still, it's definitely something to think about.

Kids and the game have changed in 22 years what worked for Woody and Bo doesn't work for Harbaugh or Satan to use a football example

(01-08-2018 05:18 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(01-08-2018 04:36 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  One of ben braun assistants was in the students section. He came over to an asked if was the same person from the bowen days. He wasn't water but one that went to cal with ben.

Man, if you see him again, tell him to get the band back together.

That was ringos line and it didn't work for the Beatles and not for us either

Out of curiosity I went to Jim Boone's website. His time at EMU is described as he "quadrupled the wins" while in Ypsilanti. His first year he won 3 games and in his fifth season he won 12. Say what you will about "figures lying and liars figuring" but to say you quadrupled the wins and accepting congratulations is some serious good spin on a horrible performance. I'm still laughing.

(01-08-2018 08:22 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  Out of curiosity I went to Jim Boone's website. His time at EMU is described as he "quadrupled the wins" while in Ypsilanti. His first year he won 3 games and in his fifth season he won 12. Say what you will about "figures lying and liars figuring" but to say you quadrupled the wins and accepting congratulations is some serious good spin on a horrible performance. I'm still laughing.

Jim is a great guy and I know him personally; however, he just couldn't get the kids from the D, or Flint or Saginaw to come to EMU and play for him until it was too late.

(01-08-2018 06:54 PM)emu79 Wrote:  

(01-08-2018 06:29 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(01-08-2018 05:36 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(01-08-2018 05:29 PM)holybovine Wrote:  NOT WASHED UP:

http://www.sfchronicle.com/collegesports...273950.php

Coaching AAU ball isn't washed up? Let's used the term retired from collegiate coaching...

I mean he could be coaching CYO but...

It's like a retired friend of mine doing voluntary tutoring for school children. Keeping busy but not doing one's career vocation.

He's got 5 and 8 yr old kids. Wow. That'll keep him young.

He's an intriguing coach to think about. The MAC was a different place 22 yrs ago when he left. He also surrounded himself with good/great assistants. Not sure if that well is dry. Also, he probably doesn't have many recruiting connections in the area. But still, it's definitely something to think about.

Kids and the game have changed in 22 years what worked for Woody and Bo doesn't work for Harbaugh or Satan to use a football example

'79 just got caught by the spell checker...

(01-08-2018 11:20 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(01-08-2018 06:54 PM)emu79 Wrote:  

(01-08-2018 06:29 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(01-08-2018 05:36 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(01-08-2018 05:29 PM)holybovine Wrote:  NOT WASHED UP:

http://www.sfchronicle.com/collegesports...273950.php

Coaching AAU ball isn't washed up? Let's used the term retired from collegiate coaching...

I mean he could be coaching CYO but...

It's like a retired friend of mine doing voluntary tutoring for school children. Keeping busy but not doing one's career vocation.

He's got 5 and 8 yr old kids. Wow. That'll keep him young.

He's an intriguing coach to think about. The MAC was a different place 22 yrs ago when he left. He also surrounded himself with good/great assistants. Not sure if that well is dry. Also, he probably doesn't have many recruiting connections in the area. But still, it's definitely something to think about.

Kids and the game have changed in 22 years what worked for Woody and Bo doesn't work for Harbaugh or Satan to use a football example

'79 just got caught by the spell checker...

Loll it was Saban

(01-08-2018 10:22 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  

(01-08-2018 08:22 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  Out of curiosity I went to Jim Boone's website. His time at EMU is described as he "quadrupled the wins" while in Ypsilanti. His first year he won 3 games and in his fifth season he won 12. Say what you will about "figures lying and liars figuring" but to say you quadrupled the wins and accepting congratulations is some serious good spin on a horrible performance. I'm still laughing.

Jim is a great guy and I know him personally; however, he just couldn't get the kids from the D, or Flint or Saginaw to come to EMU and play for him until it was too late.

Its a bit more than that he had a my way or the highway boot camp mentality that chased off allot of existing talent and basically made his own rebuilding fail the kids he brought in from Detroit Rico Harris and Garrett lacked character and doing things like go to classes Ramsey bless his heart cleaned up the mess as been discussed on this board many times Murphy has been a major improvement over both Boone Barnes and Ramsey

For those of you who want alums to be our next coach how about:

http://www.goduquesne.com/sports/m-baskb...42330.html

http://www.goduquesne.com/sports/m-baskb...55571.html

(01-09-2018 07:38 AM)emu79 Wrote:  For those of you who want alums to be our next coach how about:

http://www.goduquesne.com/sports/m-baskb...42330.html

http://www.goduquesne.com/sports/m-baskb...55571.html

I want to get back to FB recruiting...

These coaching threads are about as accurate (actually less) as predicting the weather for the football team's spring game.

NO one was in on Murphy or Chris Creighton. Not even close. No one even knew who the hell Creighton was. Most didn't know anything about Drake FB.

One thing about FB recruiting. The quality of the information has gotten a LOT better with Twitter and the recruits Tweeting like mad. I have come to feel that the time I spend on following EMU FB recruiting isn't a big waste of time. It has gotten to be fun.

(01-09-2018 07:38 AM)emu79 Wrote:  For those of you who want alums to be our next coach how about:

http://www.goduquesne.com/sports/m-baskb...42330.html

http://www.goduquesne.com/sports/m-baskb...55571.html

Yes! He deserves consideration. I was watching the EMU-Bowling Green debacle on ESPN3 and Jimmy King was doing color...at first glance I thought it was Carl Thomas. I was soon deflated when it turned out to be King. EMU has great history, Wetherbee needs to mine it.

Braun lives in California, no?

There is no way he's leaving.

(01-08-2018 10:22 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  

(01-08-2018 08:22 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  Out of curiosity I went to Jim Boone's website. His time at EMU is described as he "quadrupled the wins" while in Ypsilanti. His first year he won 3 games and in his fifth season he won 12. Say what you will about "figures lying and liars figuring" but to say you quadrupled the wins and accepting congratulations is some serious good spin on a horrible performance. I'm still laughing.

Jim is a great guy and I know him personally; however, he just couldn't get the kids from the D, or Flint or Saginaw to come to EMU and play for him until it was too late.

You are indeed correct Lucky, he was probably one of the best men and greatest X and O coaches ever in Ypsilanti. Still in D1 you MUST recruit and he did not. Al McGuire at Marquette "coached" in the off season with recruiting and at the first practice before leaving and turning over the reigns to his assistants until the first game. Boone would have been a fabulous D1 assistant coach.

(01-09-2018 07:38 AM)emu79 Wrote:  For those of you who want alums to be our next coach how about:

http://www.goduquesne.com/sports/m-baskb...42330.html

http://www.goduquesne.com/sports/m-baskb...55571.html

Go get Dambrot! He'll bring the twins with him.

(01-11-2018 06:38 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 07:38 AM)emu79 Wrote:  For those of you who want alums to be our next coach how about:

http://www.goduquesne.com/sports/m-baskb...42330.html

http://www.goduquesne.com/sports/m-baskb...55571.html

Go get Dambrot! He'll bring the twins with him.

Do you know what Dambrot was making at Akron? What he's making at Duquesne.

I believe Dambrot was the highest paid MAC coach and picked up a very big salary increase.

'Nickle, if I didn't know better I'd say you're dropping me dimes all over the place, helping me make my points.

Dambrot made 600K / year at Akron and now 1M at Duquesne. Where does that leave Akron or EMU?

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/zeise...1703280136

"It is a good first step that they were able to lure Dambrot away by throwing a big money, long-term deal at him. He made $600,000 a year at Akron, and reportedly Duquesne offered him $1 million a year for seven years. That is an extraordinary contact for a school such as Duquesne to hand to a coach, but that’s what it takes to make a quality hire at a coaching graveyard."