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X Fan...I Come In Peace...Just Wanting To Pose A Question To The UC Faithful
Haven't been here in a while...congrats on a hard fought, albeit ugly road win last night. Road conference wins are tough and you take them however you can get them. I was just thinking about this the other day and thought it would be interesting to get some UC fans' perspective on this question. I'm not trolling or trying to start any arguments. I likely won't even respond...I'm just genuinely curious to get the pulse of UC fans when posing this question.

I think probably 100% of X fans would prefer to have Mack over Cronin as X's head coach. That led me to wonder what UC fans think. Would 100% of UC fans prefer Cronin as their coach over Mack? I know it's likely impossible to take the vitriol of the rivalry out of the equation...and that's completely understandable. Most UC fans wouldn't prefer Mack over Cronin on principle. But I'm wondering if some UC fans would prefer Mack over Cronin as UC's head coach.

Again...this has nothing to do with the shootout or the rivalry...I'm genuinely intrigued as to posters' thoughts on this hypothetical. You can trash Mack, X and me all you want in your responses...but there are no ulterior motives to my question...just genuine curiosity. Good luck against SMU on Sunday.
 
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RE: X Fan...I Come In Peace...Just Wanting To Pose A Question To The UC Faithful
hey, so I'll never say anything to either of them, and I know it's a sensitive question, but....will you admit that my wife is hotter than yours? /s


No. we're not playing this game with you. Stop it.


And if we were, I'd tell you that of course mine is hotter.



......Because X girls are ugly.
 
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RE: X Fan...I Come In Peace...Just Wanting To Pose A Question To The UC Faithful
The Brawl. Mick vs. Mack on how it was handled publicly and privately. Nuff said. Next question.
 
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RE: X Fan...I Come In Peace...Just Wanting To Pose A Question To The UC Faithful
I believe the jury is still out on both of Mick and Mack...
…unless they are both retiring at the end of this season

neither has a NC. neither has a FF...
and both will likely coach for another 20+ years...

this topic should be revisited in 2038.
 
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RE: X Fan...I Come In Peace...Just Wanting To Pose A Question To The UC Faithful
I would prefer Mack's recruiting and coaching, but with Mick's ability to not be a total sleazeball.

However, X fans were relieved when Mick decided to stay at Cincinnati a couple years ago... I think that says a lot about the coaching situations.
 
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RE: X Fan...I Come In Peace...Just Wanting To Pose A Question To The UC Faithful
Mack is the better coach but a dirtbag as proven by his brawl handling.

Mick is the better person.

In the final analysis being a good person Trumps being a good coach
 
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RE: X Fan...I Come In Peace...Just Wanting To Pose A Question To The UC Faithful
(01-05-2018 09:56 PM)EffinBJ Wrote:  hey, so I'll never say anything to either of them, and I know it's a sensitive question, but....will you admit that my wife is hotter than yours? /s


No. we're not playing this game with you. Stop it.


And if we were, I'd tell you that of course mine is hotter.



......Because X girls are ugly.

Fair enough... didn't mean it as a game. Meant it out of genuine curiosity. I don't know many die hard UC fans. Thought this would be the best place to get some input into my deep thoughts. Hehe.
 
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RE: X Fan...I Come In Peace...Just Wanting To Pose A Question To The UC Faithful
I think Mack is a better recruiter, although he has had a better arena (up til next year) and is also in a better conference now, so that has helped him.
I like how Mack recruits for and coaches offense vs Mick.

Having said that, Mack comes across as a bit of a dirtball and someone who would 'do anything' to win. Mick seems much more of a class act to me.


I also thought Mick's handling of the brawl was first class and Mack came across like a punk coach who had thugs for players.


That's my take.
 
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RE: X Fan...I Come In Peace...Just Wanting To Pose A Question To The UC Faithful
(01-05-2018 10:32 PM)wudman Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 09:56 PM)EffinBJ Wrote:  hey, so I'll never say anything to either of them, and I know it's a sensitive question, but....will you admit that my wife is hotter than yours? /s


No. we're not playing this game with you. Stop it.


And if we were, I'd tell you that of course mine is hotter.



......Because X girls are ugly.

Fair enough... didn't mean it as a game. Meant it out of genuine curiosity. I don't know many die hard UC fans. Thought this would be the best place to get some input into my deep thoughts. Hehe.

Mack would be perfect at UL.
 
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RE: X Fan...I Come In Peace...Just Wanting To Pose A Question To The UC Faithful
(01-05-2018 11:16 PM)doss2 Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 10:32 PM)wudman Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 09:56 PM)EffinBJ Wrote:  hey, so I'll never say anything to either of them, and I know it's a sensitive question, but....will you admit that my wife is hotter than yours? /s


No. we're not playing this game with you. Stop it.


And if we were, I'd tell you that of course mine is hotter.



......Because X girls are ugly.

Fair enough... didn't mean it as a game. Meant it out of genuine curiosity. I don't know many die hard UC fans. Thought this would be the best place to get some input into my deep thoughts. Hehe.

Mack would be perfect at UL.
2 problems. Mack isn’t good enough and is too dirty even for Louisville. Zipem up.
 
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RE: X Fan...I Come In Peace...Just Wanting To Pose A Question To The UC Faithful
Mack's university cares more about basketball than Mick's university does. The University of Cincinnati is sooooo much more than just a basketball team. Xavier, not so much.

So it's kinda hard to compare the two coaches accomplishments if we're being fair. That being said, I could get behind Mack... but honestly I don't know if Mack could do any better than Mick has at UC.

That also being said, go **** yourself buddy. Hope to never see you around here again.

Edit: Go **** yourself again.

Edit (again): Removed the really vulgar stuff.
 
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RE: X Fan...I Come In Peace...Just Wanting To Pose A Question To The UC Faithful
(01-06-2018 12:19 AM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  Mack's university cares more about basketball than Mick's university does. The University of Cincinnati is sooooo much more than just a basketball team. Xavier, not so much.

So it's kinda hard to compare the two coaches accomplishments if we're being fair. That being said, I could get behind Mack... but honestly I don't know if Mack could do any better than Mick has at UC.

That also being said, go **** yourself buddy. Hope to never see you around here again.

Edit: Go **** yourself again.

Edit (again): Removed the really vulgar stuff.
Really dude?

And yes, I'm with the other posts. I live in Dayton and the OSU fans and Dayton fans (not surprisingly) have a real poor view of Mack and Xavier in general. There have been so many issues with other schools during his tenure that most think he is a win at all costs coach with zero morals. Every year a new school seems to get that view (Wisconsin this year) that some day I suspect the Xavier administration will actively work to clean that perception up.
 
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RE: X Fan...I Come In Peace...Just Wanting To Pose A Question To The UC Faithful
Really. Don’t come in here saying “100% of our fans think our coach is better than your coach, what do you guys have to say?” And expect me to say anything other than get the hell outta here dude.

What I meant was I could get behind a guy like Mack if he was running our program but I’ll ride and die with our angry little elf Mick before wishing Chris Mack was our head coach. I love my boys.
 
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RE: X Fan...I Come In Peace...Just Wanting To Pose A Question To The UC Faithful
A lot of mixed thoughts. Of course I like Mick more the person than Mack. But ultimately that only does so much for me, I like a lot of people. Mick's a solid, above average Basketball coach, he has not reached Huggins level when he was here, but still good in his on right.

I have to say, the level of pius self righteousness around here reminds me of Xavier fans when BH was here.

The bottom line is that Mack is rolling out final 4/NT caliber teams nearly every year, and Mick is not. When you're watching a game, drinking beer, and eating wings with a bunch of people, is anybody cheering for character? Not me!

With that said, this is extremely hypothetical. Both coaches would never coach for either team and probably wouldn't be a good fit even if they did. Mick is our guy for now, and a UC guy. So I'm going to get behind him.
 
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Agree Jarr... bottom line is, Mick's a UC guy. Even though Mack has clearly gotten the better of him (to our chagrin), I'll take the body of work Mick has produced. He's in very select company with his streak of making the tournament, and that is no small achievement.

Good point by #1 also. Let's see how things will work out with Mick and the revamped 5/3. We're still in a worse basketball conference, but it's worlds better than it was last year, so even that gap has begun to close.
 
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(01-05-2018 09:56 PM)EffinBJ Wrote:  hey, so I'll never say anything to either of them, and I know it's a sensitive question, but....will you admit that my wife is hotter than yours? /s


No. we're not playing this game with you. Stop it.
^^^^
This.
 
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RE: X Fan...I Come In Peace...Just Wanting To Pose A Question To The UC Faithful
Mick to the end. No matter what the results.

Nancy chose well.
 
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Mack is a slime ball. X has sold its soul with him and their dirty program.
 
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Thanks for the input. Some interesting takes. Again, good luck tomorrow. [/i]
 
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RE: X Fan...I Come In Peace...Just Wanting To Pose A Question To The UC Faithful
if mick didn't whine as much i'd like him more. even still, i'd take mack in a heartbeat
 
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