(01-04-2018 02:37 PM)jamammy Wrote:  But it's perfectly okay for Tubby to accept a 5 year contract when he, his family, and his support system know that he is becoming increasingly mentally incapable of performing daily tasks much less coaching a top program to the tune of $15 million dollars.

Things like this don't suddenly pop up.

They are progressive and require medical and psychological attention.

The idea that Joe grabbed Tubby's arm and reminded him of the biggest name in this city is DAMNING.

This has gotten beyond bizarre.

Just shut the basketball program down.

Good grief.

I'm convinced the only reason Tubby still works is so his kid will have a job, and mom probably makes him do it. Because it can't be his competitive nature because if had one he'd be kicking ass about recruiting and it can't be pride for self-evident reasons.

(01-04-2018 11:27 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 02:37 PM)jamammy Wrote:  But it's perfectly okay for Tubby to accept a 5 year contract when he, his family, and his support system know that he is becoming increasingly mentally incapable of performing daily tasks much less coaching a top program to the tune of $15 million dollars.

Things like this don't suddenly pop up.

They are progressive and require medical and psychological attention.

The idea that Joe grabbed Tubby's arm and reminded him of the biggest name in this city is DAMNING.

This has gotten beyond bizarre.

Just shut the basketball program down.

Good grief.

I'm convinced the only reason Tubby still works is so his kid will have a job, and mom probably makes him do it. Because it can't be his competitive nature because if had one he'd be kicking ass about recruiting and it can't be pride for self-evident reasons.

I think they were sitting down in Lubbock and planning retirement.

Then out of bizarro world Memphis came calling.

They were like really?

Seriously?

It took it awhile to set in but then they were like **** yeah.

We'll do it.

I bet dollars to donuts they have not sold their home in Texas.

(01-04-2018 11:47 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 11:27 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 02:37 PM)jamammy Wrote:  But it's perfectly okay for Tubby to accept a 5 year contract when he, his family, and his support system know that he is becoming increasingly mentally incapable of performing daily tasks much less coaching a top program to the tune of $15 million dollars.

Things like this don't suddenly pop up.

They are progressive and require medical and psychological attention.

The idea that Joe grabbed Tubby's arm and reminded him of the biggest name in this city is DAMNING.

This has gotten beyond bizarre.

Just shut the basketball program down.

Good grief.

I'm convinced the only reason Tubby still works is so his kid will have a job, and mom probably makes him do it. Because it can't be his competitive nature because if had one he'd be kicking ass about recruiting and it can't be pride for self-evident reasons.

I think they were sitting down in Lubbock and planning retirement.

Then out of bizarro world Memphis came calling.

They were like really?

Seriously?

It took it awhile to set in but then they were like **** yeah.

We'll do it.

I bet dollars to donuts they have not sold their home in Texas.

You could be right.

Frankly, I'd be surprised if they ever bought a home in Texas. It was not their cup of tea.

(01-04-2018 11:27 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 02:37 PM)jamammy Wrote:  But it's perfectly okay for Tubby to accept a 5 year contract when he, his family, and his support system know that he is becoming increasingly mentally incapable of performing daily tasks much less coaching a top program to the tune of $15 million dollars.

Things like this don't suddenly pop up.

They are progressive and require medical and psychological attention.

The idea that Joe grabbed Tubby's arm and reminded him of the biggest name in this city is DAMNING.

This has gotten beyond bizarre.

Just shut the basketball program down.

Good grief.

I'm convinced the only reason Tubby still works is so his kid will have a job, and mom probably makes him do it. Because it can't be his competitive nature because if had one he'd be kicking ass about recruiting and it can't be pride for self-evident reasons.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind, and I mean 0% doubt, that the Tub took the Memphis job so he could give his worthless, breastfeeding son an AC job. He also took the Memphis job with full intentions of grooming the breastfeeder to take over the program when he retires. He knows that Memphis would be a much better program for the mannequin to take over instead of TT.

(01-05-2018 01:11 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 11:27 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 02:37 PM)jamammy Wrote:  But it's perfectly okay for Tubby to accept a 5 year contract when he, his family, and his support system know that he is becoming increasingly mentally incapable of performing daily tasks much less coaching a top program to the tune of $15 million dollars.

Things like this don't suddenly pop up.

They are progressive and require medical and psychological attention.

The idea that Joe grabbed Tubby's arm and reminded him of the biggest name in this city is DAMNING.

This has gotten beyond bizarre.

Just shut the basketball program down.

Good grief.

I'm convinced the only reason Tubby still works is so his kid will have a job, and mom probably makes him do it. Because it can't be his competitive nature because if had one he'd be kicking ass about recruiting and it can't be pride for self-evident reasons.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind, and I mean 0% doubt, that the Tub took the Memphis job so he could give his worthless, breastfeeding son an AC job. He also took the Memphis job with full intentions of grooming the breastfeeder to take over the program when he retires. He knows that Memphis would be a much better program for the mannequin to take over instead of TT.

And TT wouldn't let TS give Saul an AC job because:
1) They learned from the Bob and Pat Knight experience.
2) TS' nepotism with Saul was a major factor in his dismissal from Minny.

(01-05-2018 01:08 AM)holybovine Wrote:  Frankly, I'd be surprised if they ever bought a home in Texas. It was not their cup of T.

T for Texas
T for Tennessee
T for Tubby
That man made a crying fool outta me

(01-05-2018 12:35 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 11:47 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 11:27 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 02:37 PM)jamammy Wrote:  But it's perfectly okay for Tubby to accept a 5 year contract when he, his family, and his support system know that he is becoming increasingly mentally incapable of performing daily tasks much less coaching a top program to the tune of $15 million dollars.

Things like this don't suddenly pop up.

They are progressive and require medical and psychological attention.

The idea that Joe grabbed Tubby's arm and reminded him of the biggest name in this city is DAMNING.

This has gotten beyond bizarre.

Just shut the basketball program down.

Good grief.

I'm convinced the only reason Tubby still works is so his kid will have a job, and mom probably makes him do it. Because it can't be his competitive nature because if had one he'd be kicking ass about recruiting and it can't be pride for self-evident reasons.

I think they were sitting down in Lubbock and planning retirement.

Then out of bizarro world Memphis came calling.

They were like really?

Seriously?

It took it awhile to set in but then they were like **** yeah.

We'll do it.

I bet dollars to donuts they have not sold their home in Texas.

You could be right.

Or, he could be wrong, as usual

https://www.vivathematadors.com/platform...-5-million

(01-04-2018 11:47 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 11:27 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 02:37 PM)jamammy Wrote:  But it's perfectly okay for Tubby to accept a 5 year contract when he, his family, and his support system know that he is becoming increasingly mentally incapable of performing daily tasks much less coaching a top program to the tune of $15 million dollars.

Things like this don't suddenly pop up.

They are progressive and require medical and psychological attention.

The idea that Joe grabbed Tubby's arm and reminded him of the biggest name in this city is DAMNING.

This has gotten beyond bizarre.

Just shut the basketball program down.

Good grief.

I'm convinced the only reason Tubby still works is so his kid will have a job, and mom probably makes him do it. Because it can't be his competitive nature because if had one he'd be kicking ass about recruiting and it can't be pride for self-evident reasons.

I think they were sitting down in Lubbock and planning retirement.

Then out of bizarro world Memphis came calling.

They were like really?

Seriously?

It took it awhile to set in but then they were like **** yeah.

We'll do it.

I bet dollars to donuts they have not sold their home in Texas.

I believe all your points. Except the last, I heard they got the hell out of Lubbock pronto.

Think about it. There has to be some truth to all this because, if Tubby wanted to recruit, he certainly could.

5 teams to NCAAs, National Championship, one of the early African-American coaches, if not the first in major college basketball, old and respected, so should get along with parents, uncles, guardians, his history should give him media access for whatever he wants to say, an historic top 25 program, top 10 in attendance and top 25 in facilities, a large crop of D1 talent grows up and plays within 20 miles of campus, NBA team in town, plays in NBA arena, direct access to NBA players, coaches a team that has placed dozens of players in the NBA, and been to the final four 3 times.

He obviously is using none of these advantages (or any others) and is in the middle of the worst recruiting season in Tiger history.

So give me a better explanation why Tubby ain't doing do about do. Come on, tell my why Liberty University's program is in better shape than the Tigers. Tell me why we can't sign a top 200 recruit. Tell me.

(01-05-2018 08:45 AM)cmt Wrote:  Think about it. There has to be some truth to all this because, if Tubby wanted to recruit, he certainly could.

5 teams to NCAAs, National Championship, one of the early African-American coaches, if not the first in major college basketball, old and respected, so should get along with parents, uncles, guardians, his history should give him media access for whatever he wants to say, an historic top 25 program, top 10 in attendance and top 25 in facilities, a large crop of D1 talent grows up and plays within 20 miles of campus, NBA team in town, plays in NBA arena, direct access to NBA players, coaches a team that has placed dozens of players in the NBA, and been to the final four 3 times.

He obviously is using none of these advantages (or any others) and is in the middle of the worst recruiting season in Tiger history.

So give me a better explanation why Tubby ain't doing do about do. Come on, tell my why Liberty University's program is in better shape than the Tigers. Tell me why we can't sign a top 200 recruit. Tell me.

Ritchie McKay hustles, unlike our deadbeat coach.

(01-05-2018 08:45 AM)cmt Wrote:  Think about it. There has to be some truth to all this because, if Tubby wanted to recruit, he certainly could.

5 teams to NCAAs, National Championship, one of the early African-American coaches, if not the first in major college basketball, old and respected, so should get along with parents, uncles, guardians, his history should give him media access for whatever he wants to say, an historic top 25 program, top 10 in attendance and top 25 in facilities, a large crop of D1 talent grows up and plays within 20 miles of campus, NBA team in town, plays in NBA arena, direct access to NBA players, coaches a team that has placed dozens of players in the NBA, and been to the final four 3 times.

He obviously is using none of these advantages (or any others) and is in the middle of the worst recruiting season in Tiger history.

So give me a better explanation why Tubby ain't doing do about do. Come on, tell my why Liberty University's program is in better shape than the Tigers. Tell me why we can't sign a top 200 recruit. Tell me.

No doubt. You play the hand you're dealt. Tubby was dealt a damn near full house and decided to go play nickel slots.

(01-05-2018 10:07 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-05-2018 08:45 AM)cmt Wrote:  Think about it. There has to be some truth to all this because, if Tubby wanted to recruit, he certainly could.

5 teams to NCAAs, National Championship, one of the early African-American coaches, if not the first in major college basketball, old and respected, so should get along with parents, uncles, guardians, his history should give him media access for whatever he wants to say, an historic top 25 program, top 10 in attendance and top 25 in facilities, a large crop of D1 talent grows up and plays within 20 miles of campus, NBA team in town, plays in NBA arena, direct access to NBA players, coaches a team that has placed dozens of players in the NBA, and been to the final four 3 times.

He obviously is using none of these advantages (or any others) and is in the middle of the worst recruiting season in Tiger history.

So give me a better explanation why Tubby ain't doing do about do. Come on, tell my why Liberty University's program is in better shape than the Tigers. Tell me why we can't sign a top 200 recruit. Tell me.

No doubt. You play the hand you're dealt. Tubby was dealt a damn near full house and decided to go play nickel slots.

*Decided to attempt to play nickel slots, just to sit in the chair and give an insinuation of playing said nickel slots, only to receive free drinks

(01-05-2018 10:07 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-05-2018 08:45 AM)cmt Wrote:  Think about it. There has to be some truth to all this because, if Tubby wanted to recruit, he certainly could.

5 teams to NCAAs, National Championship, one of the early African-American coaches, if not the first in major college basketball, old and respected, so should get along with parents, uncles, guardians, his history should give him media access for whatever he wants to say, an historic top 25 program, top 10 in attendance and top 25 in facilities, a large crop of D1 talent grows up and plays within 20 miles of campus, NBA team in town, plays in NBA arena, direct access to NBA players, coaches a team that has placed dozens of players in the NBA, and been to the final four 3 times.

He obviously is using none of these advantages (or any others) and is in the middle of the worst recruiting season in Tiger history.

So give me a better explanation why Tubby ain't doing do about do. Come on, tell my why Liberty University's program is in better shape than the Tigers. Tell me why we can't sign a top 200 recruit. Tell me.

No doubt. You play the hand you're dealt. Tubby was dealt a damn near full house and decided to go play nickel slots.

Tubby did not inherit a full house- that is just stupid to even say- There is a reason Pastner was run off and it aint that we had a full house.

(01-05-2018 10:12 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(01-05-2018 10:07 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-05-2018 08:45 AM)cmt Wrote:  Think about it. There has to be some truth to all this because, if Tubby wanted to recruit, he certainly could.

5 teams to NCAAs, National Championship, one of the early African-American coaches, if not the first in major college basketball, old and respected, so should get along with parents, uncles, guardians, his history should give him media access for whatever he wants to say, an historic top 25 program, top 10 in attendance and top 25 in facilities, a large crop of D1 talent grows up and plays within 20 miles of campus, NBA team in town, plays in NBA arena, direct access to NBA players, coaches a team that has placed dozens of players in the NBA, and been to the final four 3 times.

He obviously is using none of these advantages (or any others) and is in the middle of the worst recruiting season in Tiger history.

So give me a better explanation why Tubby ain't doing do about do. Come on, tell my why Liberty University's program is in better shape than the Tigers. Tell me why we can't sign a top 200 recruit. Tell me.

No doubt. You play the hand you're dealt. Tubby was dealt a damn near full house and decided to go play nickel slots.

Tubby did not inherit a full house- that is just stupid to even say- There is a reason Pastner was run off and it aint that we had a full house.

So you are saying all of the 187 teams ranked ahead of us had it easier? We have what I say we have. Pastner was run off because of Pastner, you would think an experienced, seasoned HOF coach that has been all over would know a thing or 2 walking through the door, or at least 2 years later. And just for the stupid P5 argument
Villanova 2
Gonzaga 8
Cincinnati 9
Wichita St 10
Xavier 15
Seton Hall 20
St Mary's 26
SMU 29
Creighton 30
Nevada 33
Butler 37
and on and on all the way down to MEMPHIS 188 add to that ZERO recruits on the way

(01-05-2018 10:12 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(01-05-2018 10:07 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-05-2018 08:45 AM)cmt Wrote:  Think about it. There has to be some truth to all this because, if Tubby wanted to recruit, he certainly could.

5 teams to NCAAs, National Championship, one of the early African-American coaches, if not the first in major college basketball, old and respected, so should get along with parents, uncles, guardians, his history should give him media access for whatever he wants to say, an historic top 25 program, top 10 in attendance and top 25 in facilities, a large crop of D1 talent grows up and plays within 20 miles of campus, NBA team in town, plays in NBA arena, direct access to NBA players, coaches a team that has placed dozens of players in the NBA, and been to the final four 3 times.

He obviously is using none of these advantages (or any others) and is in the middle of the worst recruiting season in Tiger history.

So give me a better explanation why Tubby ain't doing do about do. Come on, tell my why Liberty University's program is in better shape than the Tigers. Tell me why we can't sign a top 200 recruit. Tell me.

No doubt. You play the hand you're dealt. Tubby was dealt a damn near full house and decided to go play nickel slots.

Tubby did not inherit a full house- that is just stupid to even say- There is a reason Pastner was run off and it aint that we had a full house.

4 top 100 players on the roster when he walked in the door. But keep telling yourself that he inherited a dumpster fire.

(01-05-2018 10:26 AM)cmt Wrote:  

(01-05-2018 10:12 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(01-05-2018 10:07 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-05-2018 08:45 AM)cmt Wrote:  Think about it. There has to be some truth to all this because, if Tubby wanted to recruit, he certainly could.

5 teams to NCAAs, National Championship, one of the early African-American coaches, if not the first in major college basketball, old and respected, so should get along with parents, uncles, guardians, his history should give him media access for whatever he wants to say, an historic top 25 program, top 10 in attendance and top 25 in facilities, a large crop of D1 talent grows up and plays within 20 miles of campus, NBA team in town, plays in NBA arena, direct access to NBA players, coaches a team that has placed dozens of players in the NBA, and been to the final four 3 times.

He obviously is using none of these advantages (or any others) and is in the middle of the worst recruiting season in Tiger history.

So give me a better explanation why Tubby ain't doing do about do. Come on, tell my why Liberty University's program is in better shape than the Tigers. Tell me why we can't sign a top 200 recruit. Tell me.

No doubt. You play the hand you're dealt. Tubby was dealt a damn near full house and decided to go play nickel slots.

Tubby did not inherit a full house- that is just stupid to even say- There is a reason Pastner was run off and it aint that we had a full house.

So you are saying all of the 187 teams ranked ahead of us had it easier? We have what I say we have. Pastner was run off because of Pastner, you would think an experienced, seasoned HOF coach that has been all over would know a thing or 2 walking through the door, or at least 2 years later. And just for the stupid P5 argument
Villanova 2
Gonzaga 8
Cincinnati 9
Wichita St 10
Xavier 15
Seton Hall 20
St Mary's 26
SMU 29
Creighton 30
Nevada 33
Butler 37
and on and on all the way down to MEMPHIS 188 add to that ZERO recruits on the way

cmt you are not getting the point:

Tubby was not dealt a full house. He was dealt a program with great potential that was on its way down . He has added gasoline to the fire of the freefall of Tiger Basketball, but he did not come in to a program or roster that was on the upswing.

(01-05-2018 10:32 AM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(01-05-2018 10:12 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(01-05-2018 10:07 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-05-2018 08:45 AM)cmt Wrote:  Think about it. There has to be some truth to all this because, if Tubby wanted to recruit, he certainly could.

5 teams to NCAAs, National Championship, one of the early African-American coaches, if not the first in major college basketball, old and respected, so should get along with parents, uncles, guardians, his history should give him media access for whatever he wants to say, an historic top 25 program, top 10 in attendance and top 25 in facilities, a large crop of D1 talent grows up and plays within 20 miles of campus, NBA team in town, plays in NBA arena, direct access to NBA players, coaches a team that has placed dozens of players in the NBA, and been to the final four 3 times.

He obviously is using none of these advantages (or any others) and is in the middle of the worst recruiting season in Tiger history.

So give me a better explanation why Tubby ain't doing do about do. Come on, tell my why Liberty University's program is in better shape than the Tigers. Tell me why we can't sign a top 200 recruit. Tell me.

No doubt. You play the hand you're dealt. Tubby was dealt a damn near full house and decided to go play nickel slots.

Tubby did not inherit a full house- that is just stupid to even say- There is a reason Pastner was run off and it aint that we had a full house.

4 top 100 players on the roster when he walked in the door. But keep telling yourself that he inherited a dumpster fire.

there is a lot of room between a dumpster fire and a full house.

Tubby has done a terrible job but acting like everything was awesome when he came in only adds to the misconception that our fans are unrealistic

Ok gotcha
I am glad Pastner left and there were good reasons. And yes, the program was in bad shape for Memphis, but still a relevant program in the college basketball world, and Tubby inherited several good players that he ran off before during and after last season.
We are ranked 188 today TUBBY
end of 2017 season 101 TUBBY
2016 75 PASTNER
2015 87 PASTNER
2014 36 PASTNER
2013 37 PASTNER
2012 12 PASTNER
2011 90 PASTNER
2010 49 PASTNER

(01-05-2018 10:49 AM)cmt Wrote:  Ok gotcha
I am glad Pastner left and there were good reasons. And yes, the program was in bad shape for Memphis, but still a relevant program in the college basketball world, and Tubby inherited several good players that he ran off before during and after last season.
We are ranked 188 today TUBBY
end of 2017 season 101 TUBBY
2016 75 PASTNER
2015 87 PASTNER
2014 36 PASTNER
2013 37 PASTNER
2012 12 PASTNER
2011 90 PASTNER
2010 49 PASTNER

Where did you get we were #12 at the end of 2012? We were somewhere in the 18 range but not not top 15 that I remember.