Huge Congrats are due UCF for an amazing football season. And I think most anyone in this conference, regardless of school would agree that their season (and all AAC bowl success this past two weeks excepting the SMU debacle) reflects VERY favorably on the AAC.

Likewise, the UCONN National Championship in Basketball (and to some extent the Louisville win the year before) is something we all respect and appreciate even though we find the current UCONN hoops situation frustrating.


So listen up WSU propaganda wing:

Respect is earned. And when and if Shocker hoops actually earns that respect for both the school AND the AAC it will be the other schools loyalists who tell you it has been earned.

We're glad to have you. But dial it back a notch or three. When you are truly due a pat on the back you will get it. And this past week totally proves it.


Best of luck to your teams.

I hope you are correct in your assessment but it has been hard going to even read the posts on this board most of the time. I hope it is not the general opinion of the whole fanbase of the American conference that WSU cannot get respect until it's accomplishments at least match those of Cinncinati and/or Connecticut over the last 50 or 60 years. That is the general opinion that many of us who arent' in to the trollhood stuff are receiving. I like to read to find out what is going on in the conference but if most people have that idea then it will never happen because it is an impossible thing to happen.Wichita had the unfortunate ten years of total irrelevance and it takes a long time to make up for lost time.

(01-04-2018 11:24 AM)Windiwu Wrote:  I hope you are correct in your assessment but it has been hard going to even read the posts on this board most of the time. I hope it is not the general opinion of the whole fanbase of the American conference that WSU cannot get respect until it's accomplishments at least match those of Cinncinati and/or Connecticut over the last 50 or 60 years. That is the general opinion that many of us who arent' in to the trollhood stuff are receiving. I like to read to find out what is going on in the conference but if most people have that idea then it will never happen because it is an impossible thing to happen.Wichita had the unfortunate ten years of total irrelevance and it takes a long time to make up for lost time.

No. Just start by winning the AAC conference this year and you will get your due props. Anything more than the AAC will get you more props. Build from there. You have the potential now make it happen. No one is going to roll over for you. Ok..maybe a few will.

(01-04-2018 11:24 AM)Windiwu Wrote:  I hope you are correct in your assessment but it has been hard going to even read the posts on this board most of the time. I hope it is not the general opinion of the whole fanbase of the American conference that WSU cannot get respect until it's accomplishments at least match those of Cinncinati and/or Connecticut over the last 50 or 60 years. That is the general opinion that many of us who arent' in to the trollhood stuff are receiving. I like to read to find out what is going on in the conference but if most people have that idea then it will never happen because it is an impossible thing to happen.Wichita had the unfortunate ten years of total irrelevance and it takes a long time to make up for lost time.

Just advance to the Sweet 16, a feat that hasn't been accomplished in the AAC since the 2014 Tourney. That should shut-up a good amount of the haters.

(01-04-2018 11:30 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 11:24 AM)Windiwu Wrote:  I hope you are correct in your assessment but it has been hard going to even read the posts on this board most of the time. I hope it is not the general opinion of the whole fanbase of the American conference that WSU cannot get respect until it's accomplishments at least match those of Cinncinati and/or Connecticut over the last 50 or 60 years. That is the general opinion that many of us who arent' in to the trollhood stuff are receiving. I like to read to find out what is going on in the conference but if most people have that idea then it will never happen because it is an impossible thing to happen.Wichita had the unfortunate ten years of total irrelevance and it takes a long time to make up for lost time.

Just advance to the Sweet 16, a feat that hasn't been accomplished in the AAC since the 2014 Tourney. That should shut-up a good amount of the haters.

How about SMU winning a game?

(01-04-2018 11:31 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 11:30 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 11:24 AM)Windiwu Wrote:  I hope you are correct in your assessment but it has been hard going to even read the posts on this board most of the time. I hope it is not the general opinion of the whole fanbase of the American conference that WSU cannot get respect until it's accomplishments at least match those of Cinncinati and/or Connecticut over the last 50 or 60 years. That is the general opinion that many of us who arent' in to the trollhood stuff are receiving. I like to read to find out what is going on in the conference but if most people have that idea then it will never happen because it is an impossible thing to happen.Wichita had the unfortunate ten years of total irrelevance and it takes a long time to make up for lost time.

Just advance to the Sweet 16, a feat that hasn't been accomplished in the AAC since the 2014 Tourney. That should shut-up a good amount of the haters.

How about SMU winning a game?

Nope. I will continue to hate until I'm granted your Mod status.

Was this post really necessary?

WSU has performed pretty well when it matters the most. Conference affiliation is irrelevant when the tournament begins.

WSU has nothing to prove from an NCAA perspective. AAC games? Sure. NCAA games? Not even.

Somewhat humorous post considering it came from a fan of a team that hasn’t won a game in the tourney in what, 40 years?

(01-04-2018 11:34 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  Was this post really necessary?

WSU has performed pretty well when it matters the most. Conference affiliation is irrelevant when the tournament begins.

WSU has nothing to prove from an NCAA perspective. AAC games? Sure. NCAA games? Not even.

Somewhat humorous post considering it came from a fan of a team that hasn’t won a game in the tourney in what, 40 years?

^^^Perfect example of what SadderBudweiser is talking about^^^

And don't even mention ECU as we all know we suck badly. So thanks.

(01-04-2018 11:34 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  Was this post really necessary?

WSU has performed pretty well when it matters the most. Conference affiliation is irrelevant when the tournament begins.

WSU has nothing to prove from an NCAA perspective. AAC games? Sure. NCAA games? Not even.

Somewhat humorous post considering it came from a fan of a team that hasn’t won a game in the tourney in what, 40 years?

Can't even make a point without calling out SMU. Nice.

(01-04-2018 11:31 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 11:30 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 11:24 AM)Windiwu Wrote:  I hope you are correct in your assessment but it has been hard going to even read the posts on this board most of the time. I hope it is not the general opinion of the whole fanbase of the American conference that WSU cannot get respect until it's accomplishments at least match those of Cinncinati and/or Connecticut over the last 50 or 60 years. That is the general opinion that many of us who arent' in to the trollhood stuff are receiving. I like to read to find out what is going on in the conference but if most people have that idea then it will never happen because it is an impossible thing to happen.Wichita had the unfortunate ten years of total irrelevance and it takes a long time to make up for lost time.

Just advance to the Sweet 16, a feat that hasn't been accomplished in the AAC since the 2014 Tourney. That should shut-up a good amount of the haters.

How about SMU winning a game?

Neither here nor there but SMU won (2) titles in the early 80's (81 and 82). Before the NCAA singled them out for the death penalty they were right up there with Texas and Oklahoma.

They got my respect all right.

(01-04-2018 12:30 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 11:34 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  Was this post really necessary?

WSU has performed pretty well when it matters the most. Conference affiliation is irrelevant when the tournament begins.

WSU has nothing to prove from an NCAA perspective. AAC games? Sure. NCAA games? Not even.

Somewhat humorous post considering it came from a fan of a team that hasn’t won a game in the tourney in what, 40 years?

^^^Perfect example of what SadderBudweiser is talking about^^^

And don't even mention ECU as we all know we suck badly. So thanks.

EXACTLY.

Your legacy can’t be “negotiated” or “ reasoned” on a message board...especially by the homies. It’s earned over time.

And for purposes of this discussion I’ll separate the actual school and team from it’s fan base as represented here.

The WSU basketball team has a nice little history to date. It’s a great program. I don’t think anyone here will deny that. Your team had been good. But arguing or boasting here about which team has cred or who might do what to whom as a method of gaining legitimacy is just silky..... and most often advanced by those with little actual high-level athletic experience themselves.

I do respect your team. I’m sure others here do as well. The incessant blah blah blah
Some of you guys put out only cheapens it.

Sit down, shut up and enjoy your teams.... respect others. This a great conference.

(01-04-2018 11:31 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 11:30 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 11:24 AM)Windiwu Wrote:  I hope you are correct in your assessment but it has been hard going to even read the posts on this board most of the time. I hope it is not the general opinion of the whole fanbase of the American conference that WSU cannot get respect until it's accomplishments at least match those of Cinncinati and/or Connecticut over the last 50 or 60 years. That is the general opinion that many of us who arent' in to the trollhood stuff are receiving. I like to read to find out what is going on in the conference but if most people have that idea then it will never happen because it is an impossible thing to happen.Wichita had the unfortunate ten years of total irrelevance and it takes a long time to make up for lost time.

Just advance to the Sweet 16, a feat that hasn't been accomplished in the AAC since the 2014 Tourney. That should shut-up a good amount of the haters.

How about SMU winning a game?

Dilly Dilly!

(01-04-2018 01:02 PM)SadderBudweiser Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 12:30 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 11:34 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  Was this post really necessary?

WSU has performed pretty well when it matters the most. Conference affiliation is irrelevant when the tournament begins.

WSU has nothing to prove from an NCAA perspective. AAC games? Sure. NCAA games? Not even.

Somewhat humorous post considering it came from a fan of a team that hasn’t won a game in the tourney in what, 40 years?

^^^Perfect example of what SadderBudweiser is talking about^^^

And don't even mention ECU as we all know we suck badly. So thanks.

EXACTLY.

Your legacy can’t be “negotiated” or “ reasoned” on a message board...especially by the homies. It’s earned over time.

And for purposes of this discussion I’ll separate the actual school and team from it’s fan base as represented here.

The WSU basketball team has a nice little history to date. It’s a great program. I don’t think anyone here will deny that. Your team had been good. But arguing or boasting here about which team has cred or who might do what to whom as a method of gaining legitimacy is just silky..... and most often advanced by those with little actual high-level athletic experience themselves.

I do respect your team. I’m sure others here do as well. The incessant blah blah blah
Some of you guys put out only cheapens it.

Sit down, shut up and enjoy your teams.... respect others. This a great conference.

Don't tell me what to do. Lol

Honestly though this goes both ways. You all have to earn our respect also.

Anyway, we have no choice but to dial it back a notch. But don't think we will roll over or change . For the record, I don't want anyone else to change either. Be who you are and wear it proudly.

You are the new guys... Just like a new job, it is your responsibility to earn respect and assimilate to the community. I'm not saying the WSU fans are totally in the wrong, there has been a lot of poo flinging from all sides. We are just going to make sure everyone acts like adults going forward instead of all the belittling of each other here.

I think the other major accomplishment by a school in this conference was Houston’s football season two years ago. The win over Florida St earned the school and the conference a ton of respect. And honestly it should have gotten them in the Big 12. They are the closest thing to a rival SMU has in this conference but I was very proud of their season, and I think every other AAC fan was too. They definitely earned the respect.

(01-04-2018 12:42 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 11:31 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 11:30 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 11:24 AM)Windiwu Wrote:  I hope you are correct in your assessment but it has been hard going to even read the posts on this board most of the time. I hope it is not the general opinion of the whole fanbase of the American conference that WSU cannot get respect until it's accomplishments at least match those of Cinncinati and/or Connecticut over the last 50 or 60 years. That is the general opinion that many of us who arent' in to the trollhood stuff are receiving. I like to read to find out what is going on in the conference but if most people have that idea then it will never happen because it is an impossible thing to happen.Wichita had the unfortunate ten years of total irrelevance and it takes a long time to make up for lost time.

Just advance to the Sweet 16, a feat that hasn't been accomplished in the AAC since the 2014 Tourney. That should shut-up a good amount of the haters.

How about SMU winning a game?

Neither here nor there but SMU won (2) titles in the early 80's (81 and 82). Before the NCAA singled them out for the death penalty they were right up there with Texas and Oklahoma.

They got my respect all right.

Wrong sport, champ!

(01-04-2018 01:29 PM)mlb Wrote:  You are the new guys... Just like a new job, it is your responsibility to earn respect and assimilate to the community. I'm not saying the WSU fans are totally in the wrong, there has been a lot of poo flinging from all sides. We are just going to make sure everyone acts like adults going forward instead of all the belittling of each other here.

Wouldn’t “belittling each other” fall under “assimilating ourselves to the community”?

(01-04-2018 09:04 PM)Downtown Shocker Brown Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 01:29 PM)mlb Wrote:  You are the new guys... Just like a new job, it is your responsibility to earn respect and assimilate to the community. I'm not saying the WSU fans are totally in the wrong, there has been a lot of poo flinging from all sides. We are just going to make sure everyone acts like adults going forward instead of all the belittling of each other here.

Wouldn’t “belittling each other” fall under “assimilating ourselves to the community”?

No, that falls to community standards. I'm closing this thread, GTS has already weighed in.