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RE: Sun Belt Stock watch 2017
(12-27-2017 02:05 PM)panama Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 01:44 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  You buy Troy, Arkansas State and App State. All three are putting a lot of money into facilities, have shown they can win the conference and are in fertile enough recruiting areas with solid community support. Not to toot our own horn but if you are not buying a program that won at least a share of 5 of the last 7 titles and has Terry Mohajir pouring money into facilities... well, you should not be playing the market.

I am a hold on Ga. State, ULM and USA. All three need to address some infrastructure issues and I am still not convinced that Ga. State will maintain recruiting or build enough support in Atlanta but maybe they can. ULM will always recruit well enough to be fair due to location but the money just isn't there unless they strike gold with a coach. Maybe Viator is that guy. I am a hold on ULL but for different reasons. They have the recruiting base and community support and $ but Hudspeth seems to have burned the program down. The right hire will bring them back.

Texas State is a mystery to me. Great college town in one of the best recruiting states and a really nice stadium. The ingredients seem to be there. Ga. Southern has the right location and a lot of community support but probably needs a real breakout season to get the $ pump primed. The Eagles might have an identity issue as well with the history of their offense. CCU is just too young to say. The non-revenue sports seem to be much further along than football but given time you would think they can build a competitive football program as well.

Five phase stadium, Olympic sports and Convocation Center project?
The football stadium is a remodel across town, right?
12-27-2017 02:18 PM
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RE: Sun Belt Stock watch 2017
(12-27-2017 02:18 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 02:05 PM)panama Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 01:44 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  You buy Troy, Arkansas State and App State. All three are putting a lot of money into facilities, have shown they can win the conference and are in fertile enough recruiting areas with solid community support. Not to toot our own horn but if you are not buying a program that won at least a share of 5 of the last 7 titles and has Terry Mohajir pouring money into facilities... well, you should not be playing the market.

I am a hold on Ga. State, ULM and USA. All three need to address some infrastructure issues and I am still not convinced that Ga. State will maintain recruiting or build enough support in Atlanta but maybe they can. ULM will always recruit well enough to be fair due to location but the money just isn't there unless they strike gold with a coach. Maybe Viator is that guy. I am a hold on ULL but for different reasons. They have the recruiting base and community support and $ but Hudspeth seems to have burned the program down. The right hire will bring them back.

Texas State is a mystery to me. Great college town in one of the best recruiting states and a really nice stadium. The ingredients seem to be there. Ga. Southern has the right location and a lot of community support but probably needs a real breakout season to get the $ pump primed. The Eagles might have an identity issue as well with the history of their offense. CCU is just too young to say. The non-revenue sports seem to be much further along than football but given time you would think they can build a competitive football program as well.

Five phase stadium, Olympic sports and Convocation Center project?
The football stadium is a remodel across town, right?

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12-27-2017 02:20 PM
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RE: Sun Belt Stock watch 2017
Splurge: Georgia State

Buy: South Alabama, ULM, Coastal, GS

Hold: App, Troy, StAte, Texas State, UL

Sell: None

You buy GS because there is nowhere to go but up. Any mediocre coach is going to look like a wizard following Tyson Summers.
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12-27-2017 02:37 PM
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RE: Sun Belt Stock watch 2017
Honestly I think you have to sell Troy and App.

No way they maintain exactly where they are or improve with the player turnover (especially lost experience at QB) and in App's case coaching staff turnover without going down a bit.

Unless you hold to weather the storm and hope they tick higher down the road.
12-27-2017 02:48 PM
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(12-27-2017 12:56 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  We're doing this on our board, thought about bringing it over here

There are 10 Sun Belt football programs. You have the option to buy, sell, or hold on each program. What would you do?

For Me:

Buy: Troy, Georgia State, ULM

Hold: App, AState, USA, ULL, GS

Sell: TXST, CCU

BUY: CCU (3 wins), GS & TXST (2 wins), ULM (4 wins)

HOLD: USA, Arkansas State

SELL: App St, ULL, Troy, Ga State

I'll BUY that CCU, GS, TXST, ULM all have more wins than they did last season. All 4 teams will make me money next season why schools like Ga State will be fortunate to achieve 7 wins again and win 5 road games. Can anyone honestly say TROY will have more than 11 wins next season? If you can't then you must SELL! Arkansas State has stayed consistent and 7 wins in 2018 should be maintained. 8 wins is very possible and a program I'm probably wrong about. App State had 9 wins in 17. Can't say after losing QB and all those defensive coaches that they'll achieve a 10 win season. ULL should finish around the 7 win mark so I can't buy them.
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12-27-2017 03:02 PM
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(12-27-2017 01:17 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Buy... Troy, App, GSU

Hold... stAte, ULM, USA, ULL

Sell... Texas state, CCU, GS,

??? 03-lmfao

If 2-10 isn't a buying opportunity for Georgia Southern ... well shoot me now.
12-27-2017 03:53 PM
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RE: Sun Belt Stock watch 2017
(12-27-2017 02:18 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 02:05 PM)panama Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 01:44 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  You buy Troy, Arkansas State and App State. All three are putting a lot of money into facilities, have shown they can win the conference and are in fertile enough recruiting areas with solid community support. Not to toot our own horn but if you are not buying a program that won at least a share of 5 of the last 7 titles and has Terry Mohajir pouring money into facilities... well, you should not be playing the market.

I am a hold on Ga. State, ULM and USA. All three need to address some infrastructure issues and I am still not convinced that Ga. State will maintain recruiting or build enough support in Atlanta but maybe they can. ULM will always recruit well enough to be fair due to location but the money just isn't there unless they strike gold with a coach. Maybe Viator is that guy. I am a hold on ULL but for different reasons. They have the recruiting base and community support and $ but Hudspeth seems to have burned the program down. The right hire will bring them back.

Texas State is a mystery to me. Great college town in one of the best recruiting states and a really nice stadium. The ingredients seem to be there. Ga. Southern has the right location and a lot of community support but probably needs a real breakout season to get the $ pump primed. The Eagles might have an identity issue as well with the history of their offense. CCU is just too young to say. The non-revenue sports seem to be much further along than football but given time you would think they can build a competitive football program as well.

Five phase stadium, Olympic sports and Convocation Center project?
The football stadium is a remodel across town, right?

Nope, it's On Campus. Georgia State IS Downtown Atlanta. 40 buildings woven throughout the district's fabric. The stadium property is just a mile long extension from the epicenter. Were it not for a massive interchange and the state capitol building (the red marker) it would be contiguous. It's no less convenient than any other large urban campus. With the baseball stadium, convocation center/ Arena, additional classroom buildings, and dorms filling in the gaps, in 5 years it will be seamless between Downtown and Summerhill.
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(12-27-2017 02:48 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Honestly I think you have to sell Troy and App.

No way they maintain exactly where they are or improve with the player turnover (especially lost experience at QB) and in App's case coaching staff turnover without going down a bit.

Unless you hold to weather the storm and hope they tick higher down the road.

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12-27-2017 04:28 PM
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(12-27-2017 03:53 PM)Eagle22 Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 01:17 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Buy... Troy, App, GSU

Hold... stAte, ULM, USA, ULL

Sell... Texas state, CCU, GS,

??? 03-lmfao

If 2-10 isn't a buying opportunity for Georgia Southern ... well shoot me now.

From what I’m seeing (hang me now GS fans) I don’t see much improvement at all from GS next year. Maybe 1 or 2 more wins
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For Troy I expect no less than 9 wins next year and that’s with a QB turnover... let’s Be honest Silvers was nothing special and was a TERRIBLE mobile QB...2018 we will see a Mobile QB which could take our offense to the next level because we are still gonna be able to Run it with Henderson and we saw what talent Willis was in the Nola Bowl.

Defense we return most of what was already a top 20 defense

So you tell me, do you think Neal Brown who has won 10 and 11 games won’t be able to coach another 9+ win team with all the talent returning? If we have a better defense we would only need to score 20 points to beat most SBC teams as we did this past year. StAte was the only team to score the most points on our defense (25) in the regular season and that was the least amount by any team in the country.
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