I'll go first.

1) Dana Dimel - UTEP

2) Mario Cristobal - Oregon

3) Chad Morris - Arkansas

Discuss.

Why is Mario Cristobal a bad hire?

(12-09-2017 11:48 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  Why is Mario Cristobal a bad hire?

http://www.csnbbs.com/thread-836674.html

Worst:

1) Herm Edwards-ASU
2) Dana Dimel-UTEP
3) Josh Heupel-UCF

Best:

1) Scott Frost-Nebraska
2) Mike Bloomgren-Rice
3) Dan Mullen-Florida

(12-10-2017 01:36 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Worst:

1) Herm Edwards-ASU
2) Dana Dimel-UTEP
3) Josh Heupel-UCF

Best:

1) Scott Frost-Nebraska
2) Mike Bloomgren-Rice
3) Dan Mullen-Florida

Good list.

I have a feeling Herm Edwards could be a disaster. Heupel seems to be a very underwhelming hire. I wouldn't be surprised if Dimel turned out to be a solid hire for UTEP.

South Alabama hired former Central Arkansas head coach Steve Campbell. This guy has won everywhere he's ever coached. In my opinion, South Alabama has made a tremendous hire.

Steve Campbell was great here in the Mississippi junior college circuit. I think he will be good at USA which is not necessarily good for USM.

Worst Hire:

Jeremy Pruitt - Tennessee

Pruitt served as an ASSISTANT coach on the staff of Hoover High School Coach Rush Propst until 2007. Since then, Pruitt has spent 8 of the last 11 seasons on the Alabama staff in various defensive coaching positions, mostly as a DB coach. Somehow in 2013, he jumped from being the Alabama DB coach to getting the DC job a Florida St, where he stayed 1 season. Since then, he was a DC at Georgia for 2 years before returning to Alabama as DC in 2016.

Never mind that what Tennessee really needs is an OFFENSE that can score more points. The Vols averaged a whopping 14.1 pts per game in their 8 SEC contests this fall, a campaign in which the Vols finished 0-8 in the SEC, and 4-8 overall.

Tennessee should have saved themselves a lot of effort and just hired Neal Brown away from Troy. I mean, he's 20-5 the past two seasons (named Belt COY) and was OC at Kentucky so he knows the SEC.

that should have been UT's first call and it would have been a quick coaching search.

(12-10-2017 12:43 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Tennessee should have saved themselves a lot of effort and just hired Neal Brown away from Troy. I mean, he's 20-5 the past two seasons (named Belt COY) and was OC at Kentucky so he knows the SEC.

that should have been UT's first call and it would have been a quick coaching search.

Tennessee should have offered Chris Petersen $7-8 million per year. That would have done it. He was interested in leaving Washington but not for the same thing he is making there. But they decided to go discount again despite having the highest revenues and highest profits in the SEC.

Otherwise, if they were going to stay with the discount they should have went back to Brohm. By the far the best coach available in that salary range. But with Fulmer making the decision there was no way he was going to bring in someone that runs the type of offense Brohm does much less Brown. He wanted a pro style FB/TE offense and dictated as much to Pruitt in his hiring that he had to bring in an OC that would run that style. The irony is that the guy that they got for OC was the OC under Brohm, but don't expect to see a lot of spread/shotgun. I really don't understand this mindset. I don't know why people that make these decisions are worried about the style of play rather than getting the best coach possible.

UT paid Butch 4.1 and they're going to pay Pruitt 3.8

they could have had Neal Brown for 3.25 and a big asst coach salary pool...

I mean, if you can win 20 games in two seasons at Troy and knock off LSU...you can win 11 games at UT and get them back to glory.

but whatever, I like UT being hot garbage.

(12-10-2017 01:36 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Worst:

1) Herm Edwards-ASU
2) Dana Dimel-UTEP
3) Josh Heupel-UCF

Best:

1) Scott Frost-Nebraska
2) Mike Bloomgren-Rice
3) Dan Mullen-Florida

Rice hit a home run.

Ol' Herm didn't even know what ASU's mascot was. Something I might have researched before I accepted the job.

(12-10-2017 01:36 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(12-10-2017 01:36 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Worst:

1) Herm Edwards-ASU
2) Dana Dimel-UTEP
3) Josh Heupel-UCF

Best:

1) Scott Frost-Nebraska
2) Mike Bloomgren-Rice
3) Dan Mullen-Florida

Rice hit a home run.

550 feet

UTEPs last 2 hires have been head scratchers to me. At least Kugler was a UTEP guy, with the Dimel hire I just look at it as someone who looks lost.

The guy is 30-39 as a HC 23-13 at Wyoming and 8-26 at Houston. At Houston his teams were 3-8, 0-11, 5-7.

Will UTEP also give him 5 years like Kugler.

Worst

1. Herm Edwards Arizona State
2. Sonny Dykes SMU
3. Matt Luke Ole Piss

Best

1. Chip Kelly UCLA
2. Scott Frost Nebraska
3. Steve Campbell South Alabama

(12-12-2017 12:23 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  UTEPs last 2 hires have been head scratchers to me. At least Kugler was a UTEP guy, with the Dimel hire I just look at it as someone who looks lost.

The guy is 30-39 as a HC 23-13 at Wyoming and 8-26 at Houston. At Houston his teams were 3-8, 0-11, 5-7.

Will UTEP also give him 5 years like Kugler.

I agree on the Kugler hire, that was a true head scratcher. He was an O line coach, never a head man or a coordinator. But while I did not even think about Dimel, now that he is hired I think it may turn out ok or better than ok. I have to be optimistic because I can't do anything about it.

Dimel was successful at Wyoming and failed at Houston. 3 years for each and the last one was over a decade ago. He has been a solid OC at a very good P5 school in K State. The offense at K State is more of a run oriented spread that can pass the ball. Kugler's offense at UTEP was trying to run over people and that did not work at all. Kugler did not have recruiting ties in Texas or most anywhere else while Dimel has lots of ties in Texas.

(12-12-2017 04:58 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  I agree on the Kugler hire, that was a true head scratcher. He was an O line coach, never a head man or a coordinator. But while I did not even think about Dimel, now that he is hired I think it may turn out ok or better than ok. I have to be optimistic because I can't do anything about it.

Dimel was successful at Wyoming and failed at Houston. 3 years for each and the last one was over a decade ago. He has been a solid OC at a very good P5 school in K State. The offense at K State is more of a run oriented spread that can pass the ball. Kugler's offense at UTEP was trying to run over people and that did not work at all. Kugler did not have recruiting ties in Texas or most anywhere else while Dimel has lots of ties in Texas.

Dimel was OC in name only, everything you seen at KState was run by Snyder. If Keeler was truly in play then I would have waited on him if that even meant waiting until Jan 6th 2018, after the National Championship game.

The thing about the UTEP job is that it’s a coaching graveyard. It’s nearly impossible to recruit to and harder to win at. It’s coaching suicide. Most up and coming coaches will think hard and long about accepting this job because there is a strong possibility they will not succeed and it will take years before they have another chance at being the head man of another program. Only one coach in the last half century has had success and turned it into a stepping stone to a bigger gig. Most names that get thrown around for the UTEP opening are just agents trying to negotiate a bigger salary for their clients.

While Dimel wasn’t the sexy eye popping name we wanted it seems like he genuinely wanted the job. He has experience resurrecting a KState program that was hovering around the 1-2 win mark. While his HC resume shows nine games under .500 we have to remember that was over 15 years ago. Since then he has spent time at P5 programs honing his coaching skills.

If Kugler a guy with much less coaching experience could come into UTEP and win seven games in his second season I expect for Dimel to produce similar results but with continuity.

Don't know why people are so high on Bloomgren. Probably the worst hire of all the G5 schools honestly.

There's a reason Alabama, Arkansas, Nebraska, and Florida among others are going away from the pro-style offense. It's not an offense you want to run when you're not usually tops in your conference in talent. Rice probably should've hired KC Keeler at Sam Houston State.

He was interested in the Georgia Southern job and I'm glad we didn't choose him.