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RE: Steve Campbell = Good Decision
(12-11-2017 02:16 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  
(12-11-2017 10:51 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(12-11-2017 10:45 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  
(12-09-2017 05:57 PM)Usajags Wrote:  My ridiculous expectations are, bowl eligible first year, compete for conference second year, 10-11 wins third year and he heads off to a P5 job.

I'd like to see him have that kind of success.
I think it is a very good hire and I agree that those are the ridiculous expectations. He should have USA in a bowl game most years starting in year two.

Why is that ridiculous? He's a very good coach and USA brings a ton of talent back. USA traditionally finishes 5-7 or 6-6. It's not a total rebuild for the jags. They'll be in a bowl in year one, and compete for a title in year two, if not earlier. Lots of other teams are rebuilding, and many of the teams in the league were not very good this year.
Winning 10 or 11 his third year means winning 7 or 8 in conference and 2 or 3 non-conference. That is a tall order given the history and the lack of an on campus stadium and facilities.

He should be successful but I would agree with the original poster that the expectation should be a little lower.

Our Football facility is as good as anyone's. Weight training, offices, video, real and artificial practice fields, and an IPF to be completed by summer. Everything the players need to get better is in place. Using Ladd 6 days a year is mostly a pita for fans. Yes it would be nice to have an OCS, but all of the investments so far are designed to make the players better.
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(12-09-2017 06:00 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  According to the article, he's going to run much of what Troy runs. Quick outs to the side, up tempo, power run. On defense three down lineman with a hybrid DE/LB. He's probably run faster on offense than we do since we don't actually run up tempo nearly as much as advertised.

What's a running game? LOL.
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RE: Steve Campbell = Good Decision
(12-11-2017 02:33 PM)StillGotIt Wrote:  
(12-11-2017 02:16 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  
(12-11-2017 10:51 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(12-11-2017 10:45 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  
(12-09-2017 05:57 PM)Usajags Wrote:  My ridiculous expectations are, bowl eligible first year, compete for conference second year, 10-11 wins third year and he heads off to a P5 job.

I'd like to see him have that kind of success.
I think it is a very good hire and I agree that those are the ridiculous expectations. He should have USA in a bowl game most years starting in year two.

Why is that ridiculous? He's a very good coach and USA brings a ton of talent back. USA traditionally finishes 5-7 or 6-6. It's not a total rebuild for the jags. They'll be in a bowl in year one, and compete for a title in year two, if not earlier. Lots of other teams are rebuilding, and many of the teams in the league were not very good this year.
Winning 10 or 11 his third year means winning 7 or 8 in conference and 2 or 3 non-conference. That is a tall order given the history and the lack of an on campus stadium and facilities.

He should be successful but I would agree with the original poster that the expectation should be a little lower.

Our Football facility is as good as anyone's. Weight training, offices, video, real and artificial practice fields, and an IPF to be completed by summer. Everything the players need to get better is in place. Using Ladd 6 days a year is mostly a pita for fans. Yes it would be nice to have an OCS, but all of the investments so far are designed to make the players better.
I was thinking of the nature of recruiting and not having all of that together with an OCS.
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(12-09-2017 06:00 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  According to the article, he's going to run much of what Troy runs. Quick outs to the side, up tempo, power run. On defense three down lineman with a hybrid DE/LB. He's probably run faster on offense than we do since we don't actually run up tempo nearly as much as advertised.

It will be Troy-esque considering they just hired Kenny Edenfield. 04-jawdrop
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Considering many were not super happy with Kenny we arnt too sad to see him go... he was a coach who was kept over from the Larry Blakeney era, he is a Co- OC and did not call plays.

If anything our offense will improve imo
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RE: Steve Campbell = Good Decision
(12-13-2017 07:08 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Considering many were not super happy with Kenny we arnt too sad to see him go... he was a coach who was kept over from the Larry Blakeney era, he is a Co- OC and did not call plays.

If anything our offense will improve imo

He's a good OC, but I great one I would say. We haven't been able to have the same success we had under Neal the first time. Maybe this will open up the offense a bit, especially with a new starting QB and RB next season.
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RE: Steve Campbell = Good Decision
(12-13-2017 07:40 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 07:08 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Considering many were not super happy with Kenny we arnt too sad to see him go... he was a coach who was kept over from the Larry Blakeney era, he is a Co- OC and did not call plays.

If anything our offense will improve imo

He's a good OC, but I great one I would say. We haven't been able to have the same success we had under Neal the first time. Maybe this will open up the offense a bit, especially with a new starting QB and RB next season.

No one would expect you guys to say anything different.
You could have at least congratulated him on the promotion.
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(12-13-2017 08:03 PM)StillGotIt Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 07:40 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 07:08 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Considering many were not super happy with Kenny we arnt too sad to see him go... he was a coach who was kept over from the Larry Blakeney era, he is a Co- OC and did not call plays.

If anything our offense will improve imo

He's a good OC, but I great one I would say. We haven't been able to have the same success we had under Neal the first time. Maybe this will open up the offense a bit, especially with a new starting QB and RB next season.

No one would expect you guys to say anything different.
You could have at least congratulated him on the promotion.

We have just not on here.

He’s friends with Steve Campbell and will be able to call his own plays. Wish him well.
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RE: Steve Campbell = Good Decision
(12-13-2017 08:03 PM)StillGotIt Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 07:40 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 07:08 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Considering many were not super happy with Kenny we arnt too sad to see him go... he was a coach who was kept over from the Larry Blakeney era, he is a Co- OC and did not call plays.

If anything our offense will improve imo

He's a good OC, but I great one I would say. We haven't been able to have the same success we had under Neal the first time. Maybe this will open up the offense a bit, especially with a new starting QB and RB next season.

No one would expect you guys to say anything different.
You could have at least congratulated him on the promotion.

What am I gonna go to his house and say congrats? Like many others I wish him well. He's a great guy. He was OC here during our down years, and Co-OC with Matt Moore during Neal Brown's head coaching tenure. We have two offensive coordinators, and neither of them are calling plays. Time to see the three headed monster go away. As a Co-OC here, he is getting a promotion to OC, yes. He will do well with Campbell.
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(12-13-2017 08:03 PM)StillGotIt Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 07:40 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 07:08 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Considering many were not super happy with Kenny we arnt too sad to see him go... he was a coach who was kept over from the Larry Blakeney era, he is a Co- OC and did not call plays.

If anything our offense will improve imo

He's a good OC, but I great one I would say. We haven't been able to have the same success we had under Neal the first time. Maybe this will open up the offense a bit, especially with a new starting QB and RB next season.

No one would expect you guys to say anything different.
You could have at least congratulated him on the promotion.

He went from team that has won 20 potentially 21 games in 2 seasons to a team that hasn’t won that many in 4 years. That’s not a promotion. Facts suck sometimes.
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(12-13-2017 09:21 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 08:03 PM)StillGotIt Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 07:40 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 07:08 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Considering many were not super happy with Kenny we arnt too sad to see him go... he was a coach who was kept over from the Larry Blakeney era, he is a Co- OC and did not call plays.

If anything our offense will improve imo

He's a good OC, but I great one I would say. We haven't been able to have the same success we had under Neal the first time. Maybe this will open up the offense a bit, especially with a new starting QB and RB next season.

No one would expect you guys to say anything different.
You could have at least congratulated him on the promotion.

He went from team that has won 20 potentially 21 games in 2 seasons to a team that hasn’t won that many in 4 years. That’s not a promotion. Facts suck sometimes.

How did we do against Troy the last 4 Years? Yes facts do suck sometimes.
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(12-13-2017 10:25 PM)jag313 Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 09:21 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 08:03 PM)StillGotIt Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 07:40 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 07:08 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Considering many were not super happy with Kenny we arnt too sad to see him go... he was a coach who was kept over from the Larry Blakeney era, he is a Co- OC and did not call plays.

If anything our offense will improve imo

He's a good OC, but I great one I would say. We haven't been able to have the same success we had under Neal the first time. Maybe this will open up the offense a bit, especially with a new starting QB and RB next season.

No one would expect you guys to say anything different.
You could have at least congratulated him on the promotion.

He went from team that has won 20 potentially 21 games in 2 seasons to a team that hasn’t won that many in 4 years. That’s not a promotion. Facts suck sometimes.

How did we do against Troy the last 4 Years? Yes facts do suck sometimes.

Well done! Congrats. Meanwhile Troy football is relevant on the big stage and most people can’t figure out if Southern Alabama is really a D1 school or not. I will trade your Super Bowl in October for 10 plus wins come December.
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RE: Steve Campbell = Good Decision
(12-13-2017 10:35 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 10:25 PM)jag313 Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 09:21 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 08:03 PM)StillGotIt Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 07:40 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  He's a good OC, but I great one I would say. We haven't been able to have the same success we had under Neal the first time. Maybe this will open up the offense a bit, especially with a new starting QB and RB next season.

No one would expect you guys to say anything different.
You could have at least congratulated him on the promotion.

He went from team that has won 20 potentially 21 games in 2 seasons to a team that hasn’t won that many in 4 years. That’s not a promotion. Facts suck sometimes.

How did we do against Troy the last 4 Years? Yes facts do suck sometimes.

Well done! Congrats. Meanwhile Troy football is relevant on the big stage and most people can’t figure out if Southern Alabama is really a D1 school or not. I will trade your Super Bowl in October for 10 plus wins come December.

We had as many SEC and top 25 wins last year as you do this year.
Please get over yourself with all that “relevant” crap.

I will say I am looking forward to our Super Bowl next year when we make it 4 out of 5.
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(12-13-2017 10:40 PM)jag313 Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 10:35 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 10:25 PM)jag313 Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 09:21 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 08:03 PM)StillGotIt Wrote:  No one would expect you guys to say anything different.
You could have at least congratulated him on the promotion.

He went from team that has won 20 potentially 21 games in 2 seasons to a team that hasn’t won that many in 4 years. That’s not a promotion. Facts suck sometimes.

How did we do against Troy the last 4 Years? Yes facts do suck sometimes.

Well done! Congrats. Meanwhile Troy football is relevant on the big stage and most people can’t figure out if Southern Alabama is really a D1 school or not. I will trade your Super Bowl in October for 10 plus wins come December.

We had as many SEC and top 25 wins last year as you do this year.
Please get over yourself with all that “relevant” crap.

SoBama isn’t relevant. Sorry that’s how it goes. Maybe Steve can set some records down there and get you to seven wins in the next five years. On the bright side you can still wear your Bama gear around town.
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(12-13-2017 10:44 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 10:40 PM)jag313 Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 10:35 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 10:25 PM)jag313 Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 09:21 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  He went from team that has won 20 potentially 21 games in 2 seasons to a team that hasn’t won that many in 4 years. That’s not a promotion. Facts suck sometimes.

How did we do against Troy the last 4 Years? Yes facts do suck sometimes.

Well done! Congrats. Meanwhile Troy football is relevant on the big stage and most people can’t figure out if Southern Alabama is really a D1 school or not. I will trade your Super Bowl in October for 10 plus wins come December.

We had as many SEC and top 25 wins last year as you do this year.
Please get over yourself with all that “relevant” crap.

SoBama isn’t relevant. Sorry that’s how it goes. Maybe Steve can set some records down there and get you to seven wins in the next five years. On the bright side you can still wear your Bama gear around town.

Bama gear....really? Trying to change subject? I thought you were a “facts” guy.
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(12-13-2017 10:49 PM)jag313 Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 10:44 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 10:40 PM)jag313 Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 10:35 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 10:25 PM)jag313 Wrote:  How did we do against Troy the last 4 Years? Yes facts do suck sometimes.

Well done! Congrats. Meanwhile Troy football is relevant on the big stage and most people can’t figure out if Southern Alabama is really a D1 school or not. I will trade your Super Bowl in October for 10 plus wins come December.

We had as many SEC and top 25 wins last year as you do this year.
Please get over yourself with all that “relevant” crap.

SoBama isn’t relevant. Sorry that’s how it goes. Maybe Steve can set some records down there and get you to seven wins in the next five years. On the bright side you can still wear your Bama gear around town.

Bama gear....really? Trying to change subject? I thought you were a “facts” guy.


Well every time I’ve ever been to Legion Field south it was 40% Troy, 25% SoBama, and 35% Bama tents and gear. It hurts your feelings I’m sure, but that’s how it goes.

Hey at least you ALMOST had a pole barn to practice under until a 17 mph wind gust took it down.


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(12-13-2017 10:53 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 10:49 PM)jag313 Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 10:44 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 10:40 PM)jag313 Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 10:35 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  Well done! Congrats. Meanwhile Troy football is relevant on the big stage and most people can’t figure out if Southern Alabama is really a D1 school or not. I will trade your Super Bowl in October for 10 plus wins come December.

We had as many SEC and top 25 wins last year as you do this year.
Please get over yourself with all that “relevant” crap.

SoBama isn’t relevant. Sorry that’s how it goes. Maybe Steve can set some records down there and get you to seven wins in the next five years. On the bright side you can still wear your Bama gear around town.

Bama gear....really? Trying to change subject? I thought you were a “facts” guy.


Well every time I’ve ever been to Legion Field south it was 40% Troy, 25% SoBama, and 35% Bama tents and gear. It hurts your feelings I’m sure, but that’s how it goes.

Hey at least you ALMOST had a pole barn to practice under until a 17 mph wind gust took it down.


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Hope you can make it back next year. Like I said we are really looking forward to it. I know I enjoyed myself this year in Troy in front of those 25k fans (cough,cough). But hey what ever helps you sleep at night.
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(12-13-2017 10:25 PM)jag313 Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 09:21 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 08:03 PM)StillGotIt Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 07:40 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 07:08 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Considering many were not super happy with Kenny we arnt too sad to see him go... he was a coach who was kept over from the Larry Blakeney era, he is a Co- OC and did not call plays.

If anything our offense will improve imo

He's a good OC, but I great one I would say. We haven't been able to have the same success we had under Neal the first time. Maybe this will open up the offense a bit, especially with a new starting QB and RB next season.

No one would expect you guys to say anything different.
You could have at least congratulated him on the promotion.

He went from team that has won 20 potentially 21 games in 2 seasons to a team that hasn’t won that many in 4 years. That’s not a promotion. Facts suck sometimes.

How did we do against Troy the last 4 Years? Yes facts do suck sometimes.

You’re 3-3 vers Troy

Meanwhile we have gone 20-5 last 2 years won our 6th sbc championship. And you guys are hiring former Troy players/ coaches as your coach.

KE is taking the job to be with his pal and probably get a slight raise as he was only getting 150k as a Co- OC at Troy. And he gets to call his own plays.
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(12-13-2017 11:07 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 10:25 PM)jag313 Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 09:21 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 08:03 PM)StillGotIt Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 07:40 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  He's a good OC, but I great one I would say. We haven't been able to have the same success we had under Neal the first time. Maybe this will open up the offense a bit, especially with a new starting QB and RB next season.

No one would expect you guys to say anything different.
You could have at least congratulated him on the promotion.

He went from team that has won 20 potentially 21 games in 2 seasons to a team that hasn’t won that many in 4 years. That’s not a promotion. Facts suck sometimes.

How did we do against Troy the last 4 Years? Yes facts do suck sometimes.

You’re 3-3 vers Troy

Meanwhile we have gone 20-5 last 2 years won our 6th sbc championship. And you guys are hiring former Troy players/ coaches as your coach.

KE is taking the job to be with his pal and probably get a slight raise as he was only getting 150k as a Co- OC at Troy. And he gets to call his own plays.

You guys are making a lot of assumptions about him calling plays at USA. Steve Campbell is a longtime play-caller himself. No one knows what the different responsibilities will be at this point.
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(12-13-2017 11:09 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 11:07 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 10:25 PM)jag313 Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 09:21 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  
(12-13-2017 08:03 PM)StillGotIt Wrote:  No one would expect you guys to say anything different.
You could have at least congratulated him on the promotion.

He went from team that has won 20 potentially 21 games in 2 seasons to a team that hasn’t won that many in 4 years. That’s not a promotion. Facts suck sometimes.

How did we do against Troy the last 4 Years? Yes facts do suck sometimes.

You’re 3-3 vers Troy

Meanwhile we have gone 20-5 last 2 years won our 6th sbc championship. And you guys are hiring former Troy players/ coaches as your coach.

KE is taking the job to be with his pal and probably get a slight raise as he was only getting 150k as a Co- OC at Troy. And he gets to call his own plays.

You guys are making a lot of assumptions about him calling plays at USA. Steve Campbell is a longtime play-caller himself. No one knows what the different responsibilities will be at this point.

Possibly so, regardless I’m glad you are taking him off our hands, I Trust Neal Brown and what he does but I was never 100% on board keeping him as a OC at Troy even if it was in a co-OC role

Our offense has not fully come together under Neal either. With a New OC or Matt Moore getting a sole role we can put together a more solid Offense
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