(12-09-2017 01:14 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Its the Bronx.

Its private property

Republicans want business owners to be able to discriminate in service provision.

There are literally 1000 colleges that discriminate against liberals in this country. Think Liberty, Bob Jones, U of Mobile, Grand Canyon Education, Incorporated, etc.

Ok..

1000's? Really? List them or stop spouting nonsense.

They had a perfect right to be there and not be harassed. I don't however for a second believe that this was not an intentional move by them to gain attention. Id bet there is more to this story than is being told. Probably some prior minor incident at Fordham prompted this.

(12-10-2017 06:13 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 01:14 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Its the Bronx.

Its private property

Republicans want business owners to be able to discriminate in service provision.

There are literally 1000 colleges that discriminate against liberals in this country. Think Liberty, Bob Jones, U of Mobile, Grand Canyon Education, Incorporated, etc.

Ok..

1000's? Really? List them or stop spouting nonsense.

I made it easier on him. I cut the request in half to just 500.

(12-10-2017 12:59 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-10-2017 06:13 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 01:14 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Its the Bronx.

Its private property

Republicans want business owners to be able to discriminate in service provision.

There are literally 1000 colleges that discriminate against liberals in this country. Think Liberty, Bob Jones, U of Mobile, Grand Canyon Education, Incorporated, etc.

Ok..

1000's? Really? List them or stop spouting nonsense.

I made it easier on him. I cut the request in half to just 500.

Wonder if there are more colleges that discriminate against liberals or death camps for gays? Has to be close.

(12-09-2017 10:48 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 10:42 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Still waiting on that list of 1000 colleges.Well, to make it easier, lets cut that number in half. 500 it is,

Tom is traveling, he just got back from there.

Back from Iraq? Or was that Syria?

Well, haven't been able to sign on here for the last day and a half. To my surprise I still don't have that list of 500 colleges. To once again to show I am not being unfair, I have now cut the request from the initial 1000 colleges to just 100. That is a 90% reduction from the initial claim. How fair is that?

(12-09-2017 03:13 PM)shere khan Wrote:  These sjw's are so far out of touch with reality that one of them is gonna go full comic book hero and get knocked the eff out. I'm surprised if doesn't happen more.

Let them have their "fun" while in college because the real world is going to kick them all in the a$$.

Ok, one more try to prove how fair I can be. Tom claimed 1000 colleges, I am now asking for him to name 50. Surely he can do that.

(12-09-2017 01:37 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 01:29 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 01:14 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Its the Bronx.

Its private property

Republicans want business owners to be able to discriminate in service provision.

There are literally 1000 colleges that discriminate against liberals in this country. Think Liberty, Bob Jones, U of Mobile, Grand Canyon Education, Incorporated, etc.

Ok..

you easily don't need a cake anytime soon......you're wearing one all over your face of hypocrisy....

Well Stink, you couldn't be more right. He almost broke the meter on this one....

LOL, I didn't realize you guys were in favor of Liberty University being required to allow for Gay rights protesters on campus...

So long as you're arguing that a private, religious school has to allow the viewpoints and dress of outsiders on their campus.

(12-10-2017 12:59 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-10-2017 06:13 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 01:14 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Its the Bronx.

Its private property

Republicans want business owners to be able to discriminate in service provision.

There are literally 1000 colleges that discriminate against liberals in this country. Think Liberty, Bob Jones, U of Mobile, Grand Canyon Education, Incorporated, etc.

Ok..

1000's? Really? List them or stop spouting nonsense.

I made it easier on him. I cut the request in half to just 500.

I don't have to produce 'on demand' documentation of the obvious.

Here's just a few

Liberty
Grand Canyon Education, Inc
U of Mobile
Mississippi College
Houston Baptist
Dallas Baptist
Chas. Southern
Gardiner Webb
BYU
BYU-Idaho
BYU-Hawaii
Cumberland
Wheaton

Etc. etc. etc. etc.

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Remember, you're criticizing a private RELIGIOUS school for restricting speech. There are literally 1000 schools in this country that do that against liberal views.

(12-13-2017 10:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I don't have to produce 'on demand' documentation of the obvious.

Yes you do.

http://www.csnbbs.com/thread-746084.html

Quote:2. You are expected to defend your position.

You made the claim, back it up.

(12-13-2017 10:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-10-2017 12:59 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-10-2017 06:13 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 01:14 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Its the Bronx.

Its private property

Republicans want business owners to be able to discriminate in service provision.

There are literally 1000 colleges that discriminate against liberals in this country. Think Liberty, Bob Jones, U of Mobile, Grand Canyon Education, Incorporated, etc.

Ok..

1000's? Really? List them or stop spouting nonsense.

I made it easier on him. I cut the request in half to just 500.

I don't have to produce 'on demand' documentation of the obvious.

Here's just a few

Liberty
Grand Canyon Education, Inc
U of Mobile
Mississippi College
Houston Baptist
Dallas Baptist
Chas. Southern
Gardiner Webb
BYU
BYU-Idaho
BYU-Hawaii
Cumberland
Wheaton

Etc. etc. etc. etc.

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Remember, you're criticizing a private RELIGIOUS school for restricting speech. There are literally 1000 schools in this country that do that against liberal views.

Well, that is a start, but 13 is not 1000, 500, 200 or 50. I mean geez, I went all the way down to 50 and you list 13. Come on Tom, you can do better than that.

(12-13-2017 10:40 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 10:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-10-2017 12:59 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-10-2017 06:13 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 01:14 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Its the Bronx.

Its private property

Republicans want business owners to be able to discriminate in service provision.

There are literally 1000 colleges that discriminate against liberals in this country. Think Liberty, Bob Jones, U of Mobile, Grand Canyon Education, Incorporated, etc.

Ok..

1000's? Really? List them or stop spouting nonsense.

I made it easier on him. I cut the request in half to just 500.

I don't have to produce 'on demand' documentation of the obvious.

Here's just a few

Liberty
Grand Canyon Education, Inc
U of Mobile
Mississippi College
Houston Baptist
Dallas Baptist
Chas. Southern
Gardiner Webb
BYU
BYU-Idaho
BYU-Hawaii
Cumberland
Wheaton

Etc. etc. etc. etc.

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Remember, you're criticizing a private RELIGIOUS school for restricting speech. There are literally 1000 schools in this country that do that against liberal views.

Well, that is a start, but 13 is not 1000, 500, 200 or 50. I mean geez, I went all the way down to 50 and you list 13. Come on Tom, you can do better than that.

I repeat my claim. No, I'm not spending an hour or so listing evangelical schools...You can do the google for that. This isn't a negotiation

Now, I'm curious...so are you arguing that private RELIGIOUS schools like Fordham cannot restrict political speech on their private property campus? Which is the original argument going on here. Or that they shouldn't?

Why apply it to Fordham and not Liberty?

(12-13-2017 11:03 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 10:40 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 10:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-10-2017 12:59 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-10-2017 06:13 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  1000's? Really? List them or stop spouting nonsense.

I made it easier on him. I cut the request in half to just 500.

I don't have to produce 'on demand' documentation of the obvious.

Here's just a few

Liberty
Grand Canyon Education, Inc
U of Mobile
Mississippi College
Houston Baptist
Dallas Baptist
Chas. Southern
Gardiner Webb
BYU
BYU-Idaho
BYU-Hawaii
Cumberland
Wheaton

Etc. etc. etc. etc.

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Remember, you're criticizing a private RELIGIOUS school for restricting speech. There are literally 1000 schools in this country that do that against liberal views.

Well, that is a start, but 13 is not 1000, 500, 200 or 50. I mean geez, I went all the way down to 50 and you list 13. Come on Tom, you can do better than that.

I repeat my claim. No, I'm not spending an hour or so listing evangelical schools...You can do the google for that. This isn't a negotiation

Now, I'm curious...so are you arguing that private RELIGIOUS schools like Fordham cannot restrict political speech on their private property campus? Which is the original argument going on here. Or that they shouldn't?

Why apply it to Fordham and not Liberty?

So instead of students with MAGA hats on, they had been two students with pro-gay hats or t-shirts on, in your opinion the student worker in the coffee shop would have had every right to refuse service to them and tell them to leave?

(12-13-2017 11:17 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 11:03 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 10:40 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 10:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-10-2017 12:59 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  I made it easier on him. I cut the request in half to just 500.

I don't have to produce 'on demand' documentation of the obvious.

Here's just a few

Liberty
Grand Canyon Education, Inc
U of Mobile
Mississippi College
Houston Baptist
Dallas Baptist
Chas. Southern
Gardiner Webb
BYU
BYU-Idaho
BYU-Hawaii
Cumberland
Wheaton

Etc. etc. etc. etc.

---

Remember, you're criticizing a private RELIGIOUS school for restricting speech. There are literally 1000 schools in this country that do that against liberal views.

Well, that is a start, but 13 is not 1000, 500, 200 or 50. I mean geez, I went all the way down to 50 and you list 13. Come on Tom, you can do better than that.

I repeat my claim. No, I'm not spending an hour or so listing evangelical schools...You can do the google for that. This isn't a negotiation

Now, I'm curious...so are you arguing that private RELIGIOUS schools like Fordham cannot restrict political speech on their private property campus? Which is the original argument going on here. Or that they shouldn't?

Why apply it to Fordham and not Liberty?

So instead of students with MAGA hats on, they had been two students with pro-gay hats or t-shirts on, in your opinion the student worker in the coffee shop would have had every right to refuse service to them and tell them to leave?

Actually, I'd argue that Fordham should have served the Trumpers, but I'd argue that Liberty shouldn't have arrested people who simply peacefully wore rainbow clothing on their campus.

Instances like this are precisely why I OPPOSE (license to discriminate) Religious Freedom Bill.

Don't expect us to really get worked up when there's 1 case where conservatives get hit with the impact of a practice (religiously 'justified' discrimination) that many of y'all fervently support enabling.