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MAC basketball Pomeroy rankings
134 Ball State
143 Western Michigan
146 Buffalo
152 Toledo
159 Ohio
164 Eastern Michigan
174 Akron
192 Kent State
198 Bowling Green
213 Central Michigan
249 Northern Illinois
297 Miami
11-26-2017 03:13 PM
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RE: MAC basketball Pomeroy rankings
(11-26-2017 03:13 PM)LongtimeFan Wrote:  134 Ball State
143 Western Michigan
146 Buffalo
152 Toledo
159 Ohio
164 Eastern Michigan
174 Akron
192 Kent State
198 Bowling Green
213 Central Michigan
249 Northern Illinois
297 Miami

Actually .... with the possible exception of Bowling Green (too low) ... this is about how the league ranks after a couple of weeks ... considering SOS
11-26-2017 04:01 PM
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RE: MAC basketball Pomeroy rankings
Basketball rankings of any sort are completely meaningless this early in the season. There aren't enough connections between teams having played each other to gain a complete picture. There's a ton of movement from game to game as a result. Check back in January when there are way more data points.
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(11-26-2017 04:08 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  Basketball rankings of any sort are completely meaningless this early in the season. There aren't enough connections between teams having played each other to gain a complete picture. There's a ton of movement from game to game as a result. Check back in January when there are way more data points.

Or even better, in March!
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RE: MAC basketball Pomeroy rankings
While it may be too early for power rankings, in my own personal power rankings I see one definite trend in the MAC this year, it has completely flipped from defense to offense this year.
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(11-26-2017 06:21 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  Or even better, in March!

There's really not that much movement once you get a few games into conference play. Things are pretty solidified by then and movement tends to only be ten to fifteen spots (out of ~350) for each game played.
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RE: MAC basketball Pomeroy rankings
(11-26-2017 06:34 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  While it may be too early for power rankings, in my own personal power rankings I see one definite trend in the MAC this year, it has completely flipped from defense to offense this year.

CMU just won the Great Alaska Shootout with defense. Toledo's defense is better. Buffalo can defend. EMU is still tough to figure, but has big defensive potential. Might be more offense overall this year but not a complete flip.
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RE: MAC basketball Pomeroy rankings
Updated rankings through games played Dec. 2:

129 Ball State
132 Western Michigan
135 Buffalo
150 Eastern Michigan
155 Ohio
166 Toledo
191 Kent State
198 Bowling Green
199 Akron
219 Central Michigan
246 Northern Illinois
308 Miami
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Oh, how the MAC has fallen. Not a single team even sniffing the top 100, let alone anything significant.
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How are we second highest in the MAC? St Louis U aside, we just continually lose against Div I competition.
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(12-03-2017 10:42 AM)axeme Wrote:  Oh, how the MAC has fallen. Not a single team even sniffing the top 100, let alone anything significant.

Indeed. As I have said many times, the MAC went from a MBB conference to a football conference (case in point: the two New Year's Bowl games in 2013 and 17) over the last say two decades.
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(12-03-2017 11:38 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 10:42 AM)axeme Wrote:  Oh, how the MAC has fallen. Not a single team even sniffing the top 100, let alone anything significant.

Indeed. As I have said many times, the MAC went from a MBB conference to a football conference (case in point: the two New Year's Bowl games in 2013 and 17) over the last say two decades.

THAT'S TODAY .... Lets check back at Christmas break, after MAC teams (OK, not Central Michigan) have played much tougher competition, and see where these same teams stand ... Evansville, Old Dominion, Oakland, Syracuse, Xavier, Oregon State among others ... not predicting a lot of wins, mind you, but maybe a few to move the needle for a couple of teams like Buffalo, Ball State, WMU.
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Not that CMU is phenomenal but at 6-1 with our only loss to Michigan by 7 on the road, kinda weird to see us 3rd from the bottom.
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RE: MAC basketball Pomeroy rankings
(12-03-2017 09:40 AM)LongtimeFan Wrote:  Updated rankings through games played Dec. 2:

129 Ball State
132 Western Michigan
135 Buffalo
150 Eastern Michigan
155 Ohio
166 Toledo
191 Kent State
198 Bowling Green
199 Akron
219 Central Michigan
246 Northern Illinois
308 Miami

03-lmfao
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No one is expecting Miami to be some juggernaut this year with all the freshman we're starting, yet despite that we already look worlds better than we were under Cooper. Our 5-3 record hasn't been against very good competition but under the former regime we'd be 2-6, you can tell Owens is coaching up the kids a lot from the recent past.
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RE: MAC basketball Pomeroy rankings
(12-03-2017 09:29 PM)bobcat_backer Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 09:40 AM)LongtimeFan Wrote:  Updated rankings through games played Dec. 2:

129 Ball State
132 Western Michigan
135 Buffalo
150 Eastern Michigan
155 Ohio
166 Toledo
191 Kent State
198 Bowling Green
199 Akron
219 Central Michigan
246 Northern Illinois
308 Miami

03-lmfao

Just for Bobcat Backer, here are the realtime RPI rankings for today. Very different that Ken Pom.

85 Buffalo
96 Toledo
104 Central Michigan
156 Miami
194 Ball State
196 Bowling Green
205 Western Michigan
254 Akron
261 Kent
281 Eastern Michigan
287 Ohio
290 Northern Illinois
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RE: MAC basketball Pomeroy rankings
(12-03-2017 10:43 PM)DICK Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 09:29 PM)bobcat_backer Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 09:40 AM)LongtimeFan Wrote:  Updated rankings through games played Dec. 2:

129 Ball State
132 Western Michigan
135 Buffalo
150 Eastern Michigan
155 Ohio
166 Toledo
191 Kent State
198 Bowling Green
199 Akron
219 Central Michigan
246 Northern Illinois
308 Miami

03-lmfao

Just for Bobcat Backer, here are the realtime RPI rankings for today. Very different that Ken Pom.

85 Buffalo
96 Toledo
104 Central Michigan
156 Miami
194 Ball State
196 Bowling Green
205 Western Michigan
254 Akron
261 Kent
281 Eastern Michigan
287 Ohio
290 Northern Illinois

yeah, like I am supposed to believe this! lol nice try
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RE: MAC basketball Pomeroy rankings
They have Ohio's SOS at #324.
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(12-03-2017 11:12 PM)DICK Wrote:  They have Ohio's SOS at #324.

oh I'm just joshing with ya. it's way too early to read anything into these ratings, but I guess they are interesting to a point. it's interesting how one has Miami at the bottom of the barrel and the other has a very different view. only time will tell!
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(12-03-2017 10:43 PM)DICK Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 09:29 PM)bobcat_backer Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 09:40 AM)LongtimeFan Wrote:  Updated rankings through games played Dec. 2:

129 Ball State
132 Western Michigan
135 Buffalo
150 Eastern Michigan
155 Ohio
166 Toledo
191 Kent State
198 Bowling Green
199 Akron
219 Central Michigan
246 Northern Illinois
308 Miami

03-lmfao

Just for Bobcat Backer, here are the realtime RPI rankings for today. Very different that Ken Pom.

85 Buffalo
96 Toledo
104 Central Michigan
156 Miami
194 Ball State
196 Bowling Green
205 Western Michigan
254 Akron
261 Kent
281 Eastern Michigan
287 Ohio
290 Northern Illinois

Anyone what thinks EMU is roughly #281 raise your hand, go get a dunce's hat and come back...

Oh, realtimerpi isn't a person. 03-lmfao
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