(11-19-2017 12:34 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 12:04 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 07:17 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Even if Memphis loses to East Carolina, which would he counted as a really bad loss, but then beat the ranked UCF / USF winner ---- Memphis still get invite to the NY6 bowl - right? Or does Boise still have a chance here? If UCF or USF win there's no doubts.

We need Fanhood's wisdom on this.

sdsu eliminated from their ccg...he doesnt care anymore..no need for him to manipulate the data any longer

Ha. You guys have a complex. Sadly, Wyoming could not pull it off. I didn't watch, but it was an ugly game. If Josh Allen had played, the outcome probably would have been different.

Ultimately, I am happy about this season. SDSU could potentially win 10 or 11 games, we beat ASU on the road and Stanford at Home. Have beaten three straight P12 schools, and could be ranked at the end of the year. Rashaad Penny is setting the world on fire. But hey, If you lose to Fresno at Home, you don't deserve to play for a championship.

Boise could get the bid over USF, but I do think USF jumps them with a win over UCF and Memphis. It could be close though. We'll see what the rankings are this week.

(11-19-2017 05:44 PM)fanhood Wrote:  .

Boise could get the bid over USF, but I do think USF jumps them with a win over UCF and Memphis. It could be close though. We'll see what the rankings are this week.

So, in what world do you think a 11-2 Boise with wins over 8-3 Fresno and another win over then 8-4 Fresno in the ccg a week later would be close to jumping an 11-1 USF with wins over a 9-0 USF and a 10-1 Memphis?

(11-19-2017 06:44 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 05:44 PM)fanhood Wrote:  .

Boise could get the bid over USF, but I do think USF jumps them with a win over UCF and Memphis. It could be close though. We'll see what the rankings are this week.

So, in what world do you think a 11-2 Boise with wins over 8-3 Fresno and another win over then 8-4 Fresno in the ccg a week later would be close to jumping an 11-1 USF with wins over a 9-0 USF and a 10-1 Memphis?

If you read what I wrote, I said, I think USF jumps them, and gets the bid. However, USF's schedule has been so bad thus far, that it actually is a debate. The evidence of this is that Boise was ranked 25th this past week, and USF was not even ranked. That indicates that it will be a conversation. Would you think?

For the record, Houston losing this week and hopefully next Friday doesn't help USF either if the committee is debating USF vs Boise.
I think they would still have the stronger body of work, with UCF and Memphis wins being better than anything Boise would have, but hate to have their loss look any worse.

(11-19-2017 07:59 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  For the record, Houston losing this week and hopefully next Friday doesn't help USF either if the committee is debating USF vs Boise.
I think they would still have the stronger body of work, with UCF and Memphis wins being better than anything Boise would have, but hate to have their loss look any worse.

Yup, that is all I am saying. There will be a debate. Its not a crazy scenario.

(11-19-2017 05:31 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  There will be way too much cheating for ECU to overcome and get the W!

That is all.

Jim Calhoun.

Not to mention, it's obvious you don't cheat in football.

(11-19-2017 05:29 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 02:24 PM)DowdyPirate2 Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 01:32 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 12:31 PM)shere khan Wrote:  In '96 Memphis beat the 6th ranked Tennessee Vols and Peyton Manning in the most improbable, ridiculous, mismatched upset in the history of college football. Nothing is a given.

Tell yourself whatever you need to. You guys will score 80 if you want to.

I could see ECU beating Memphis. ECU has the athletes to burn Memphis if they come out flat and lazy. But Memphis would have to play the first half giving absolutely no ***** and ECU would have to execute perfectly and get out to a 35ish point lead to give them a chance to hold on.

I think you forgot to mention the pregame meal being tainted and everyone having food poisoning. Then I would raise the chances to at least 5%.

I’m not saying ECU has a good chance at winning but IF Memphis is looking ahead to the championship game than we have a chance to at least make it interesting. Otherwise they are a ranked team and will most likely rout us like the others. Pretty sure we’ve had the toughest schedule of anyone this year.


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Memphis is a 27.5 point favorite over ECU. UCF is a 10.5 point favorite over USF.

Sounds about right, although I could see both favorites covering the spread.

It's totally in the committee's hands and who knows what they'd do.
Let's assume Boise wins out.
A Memphis loss to ECU, would drop them out of the Top25.
A USF win over UCF, would likely get them in the top25, but would it put them above Boise? Committee's call.
Now you have potentially unranked Memphis vs 24ish USF.

I could see it all falling apart. A lot has to do with if USF is ranked in the CFP top25 this week.

(11-20-2017 08:48 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  It's totally in the committee's hands and who knows what they'd do.
Let's assume Boise wins out.
A Memphis loss to ECU, would drop them out of the Top25.
A USF win over UCF, would likely get them in the top25, but would it put them above Boise? Committee's call.
Now you have potentially unranked Memphis vs 24ish USF.

I could see it all falling apart. A lot has to do with if USF is ranked in the CFP top25 this week.

No, it will be completely done if Memphis beats ECU. Even if USF beats UCF, think about that. USF would have ending wins over a ranked UCF and a ranked Memphis, and finish 11-1.

No way in hell Boise would jump USF OR Memphis.

So, the ONLY thing that matters is IF Memphis beats ECU.

We do that, and Boise is out. No way anybody jumps any of the 3 of us.

Does anybody here realistically think ECU will beat Memphis? It could be close for awhile, or maybe not a blowout, but Memphis is winning that game. Too much on the line for us to look ahead. Book it.

(11-20-2017 09:30 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 08:48 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  It's totally in the committee's hands and who knows what they'd do.
Let's assume Boise wins out.
A Memphis loss to ECU, would drop them out of the Top25.
A USF win over UCF, would likely get them in the top25, but would it put them above Boise? Committee's call.
Now you have potentially unranked Memphis vs 24ish USF.

I could see it all falling apart. A lot has to do with if USF is ranked in the CFP top25 this week.

No, it will be completely done if Memphis beats ECU. Even if USF beats UCF, think about that. USF would have ending wins over a ranked UCF and a ranked Memphis, and finish 11-1.

No way in hell Boise would jump USF OR Memphis.

So, the ONLY thing that matters is IF Memphis beats ECU.

We do that, and Boise is out. No way anybody jumps any of the 3 of us.

Does anybody here realistically think ECU will beat Memphis? It could be close for awhile, or maybe not a blowout, but Memphis is winning that game. Too much on the line for us to look ahead. Book it.

I agree the only scenario the American doesn't get the access is if ECU wins and I find that to be highly unlikely. I still don't think USF is ranked though after that dreadful performance on Friday. Guess we shall see though.

(11-20-2017 08:32 AM)PurpleReigns Wrote:  I’m not saying ECU has a good chance at winning but IF Memphis is looking ahead to the championship game than we have a chance to at least make it interesting. Otherwise they are a ranked team and will most likely rout us like the others. Pretty sure we’ve had the toughest schedule of anyone this year.


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Sagarin says to date:
Navy 64th
UConn 65th
Tulsa 67th
ECU 69th

Massey says to date:
Navy 59th
Tulsa 66th
ECU 67th
But Massey has ECU moving up to 66th and Tulsa moving down after the final games.

(11-20-2017 09:33 AM)PT_american Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 09:30 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 08:48 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  It's totally in the committee's hands and who knows what they'd do.
Let's assume Boise wins out.
A Memphis loss to ECU, would drop them out of the Top25.
A USF win over UCF, would likely get them in the top25, but would it put them above Boise? Committee's call.
Now you have potentially unranked Memphis vs 24ish USF.

I could see it all falling apart. A lot has to do with if USF is ranked in the CFP top25 this week.

No, it will be completely done if Memphis beats ECU. Even if USF beats UCF, think about that. USF would have ending wins over a ranked UCF and a ranked Memphis, and finish 11-1.

No way in hell Boise would jump USF OR Memphis.

So, the ONLY thing that matters is IF Memphis beats ECU.

We do that, and Boise is out. No way anybody jumps any of the 3 of us.

Does anybody here realistically think ECU will beat Memphis? It could be close for awhile, or maybe not a blowout, but Memphis is winning that game. Too much on the line for us to look ahead. Book it.

I agree the only scenario the American doesn't get the access is if ECU wins and I find that to be highly unlikely. I still don't think USF is ranked though after that dreadful performance on Friday. Guess we shall see though.

That part I agree with. And I think USF is the least likely of the 3 to win the AAC. But as long as Memphis beats ECU, USF will jump Boise if USF wins out.

So, if USF wins Friday, I expect Quo to be front and center pulling for Memphis on Saturday, lol.

(11-20-2017 09:42 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 09:33 AM)PT_american Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 09:30 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 08:48 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  It's totally in the committee's hands and who knows what they'd do.
Let's assume Boise wins out.
A Memphis loss to ECU, would drop them out of the Top25.
A USF win over UCF, would likely get them in the top25, but would it put them above Boise? Committee's call.
Now you have potentially unranked Memphis vs 24ish USF.

I could see it all falling apart. A lot has to do with if USF is ranked in the CFP top25 this week.

No, it will be completely done if Memphis beats ECU. Even if USF beats UCF, think about that. USF would have ending wins over a ranked UCF and a ranked Memphis, and finish 11-1.

No way in hell Boise would jump USF OR Memphis.

So, the ONLY thing that matters is IF Memphis beats ECU.

We do that, and Boise is out. No way anybody jumps any of the 3 of us.

Does anybody here realistically think ECU will beat Memphis? It could be close for awhile, or maybe not a blowout, but Memphis is winning that game. Too much on the line for us to look ahead. Book it.

I agree the only scenario the American doesn't get the access is if ECU wins and I find that to be highly unlikely. I still don't think USF is ranked though after that dreadful performance on Friday. Guess we shall see though.

That part I agree with. And I think USF is the least likely of the 3 to win the AAC. But as long as Memphis beats ECU, USF will jump Boise if USF wins out.

So, if USF wins Friday, I expect Quo to be front and center pulling for Memphis on Saturday, lol.

My paramount goal is to see USF get in to the P5. This surpasses any other goal, including glory in a particular season. Would rather USF go 0-12 the next three years and then get invited to the ACC then go 12-0 the next three years but then remain stuck in the AAC. And while i don't think results on the field are the only thing, or even major thing, that matter, they do matter. Also, when i think about all the G5 schools that could get a P5 bid over USF, they are all in the AAC*.

So what it boils down to is this: the only time I want the AAC to get the NY6 bid is if it is USF, because I don't want any other AAC school to get that glory and thus look better in the eyes of P5 evaluators.

So no, I am rooting 100% for ECU, because that way, if Memphis wins the AAC, Memphis might not get the NY6 bid. FWIW, you can consider it a sign of respect that i do regard Memphis as a real threat to our P5 hopes, one of the biggest threats, which is why i don't want good things happening for you.

And no, I am not worried that if Memphis loses to ECU, that could hurt USF (if we beat UCF) by devaluing a win over Memphis in the AAC title game. I have zero doubt that if USF beats UCF and Memphis, USF will surpass Boise in the CFP and get the NY6 bid, no matter if Memphis has lost to ECU or not.

And no, I am not swayed by the fact that P5 expansion is at this point unlikely. I agree it is unlikely. Still, it can happen at any time so we always have to be in the best position possible should it suddenly be on the table.


* Schools like Boise, Colorado State and SDSU are more likely to get a PAC bid than USF, but that's because USF will never in a million years get a PAC bid so that's irrelevant.

(11-20-2017 09:55 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 09:42 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 09:33 AM)PT_american Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 09:30 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 08:48 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  It's totally in the committee's hands and who knows what they'd do.
Let's assume Boise wins out.
A Memphis loss to ECU, would drop them out of the Top25.
A USF win over UCF, would likely get them in the top25, but would it put them above Boise? Committee's call.
Now you have potentially unranked Memphis vs 24ish USF.

I could see it all falling apart. A lot has to do with if USF is ranked in the CFP top25 this week.

No, it will be completely done if Memphis beats ECU. Even if USF beats UCF, think about that. USF would have ending wins over a ranked UCF and a ranked Memphis, and finish 11-1.

No way in hell Boise would jump USF OR Memphis.

So, the ONLY thing that matters is IF Memphis beats ECU.

We do that, and Boise is out. No way anybody jumps any of the 3 of us.

Does anybody here realistically think ECU will beat Memphis? It could be close for awhile, or maybe not a blowout, but Memphis is winning that game. Too much on the line for us to look ahead. Book it.

I agree the only scenario the American doesn't get the access is if ECU wins and I find that to be highly unlikely. I still don't think USF is ranked though after that dreadful performance on Friday. Guess we shall see though.

That part I agree with. And I think USF is the least likely of the 3 to win the AAC. But as long as Memphis beats ECU, USF will jump Boise if USF wins out.

So, if USF wins Friday, I expect Quo to be front and center pulling for Memphis on Saturday, lol.

My paramount goal is to see USF get in to the P5. This surpasses any other goal, including glory in a particular season. Would rather USF go 0-12 the next three years and then get invited to the ACC then go 12-0 the next three years but then remain stuck in the AAC. And while i don't think results on the field are the only thing, or even major thing, that matter, they do matter. Also, when i think about all the G5 schools that could get a P5 bid over USF, they are all in the AAC*.

So what it boils down to is this: the only time I want the AAC to get the NY6 bid is if it is USF, because I don't want any other AAC school to get that glory.

So no, I am rooting 100% for ECU, because that way, if Memphis wins the AAC, Memphis, and thus the AAC, might not get the NY6 bid.

And no, I am not worried that if Memphis loses to ECU, that could hurt USF (if we beat UCF) by devaluing a win over Memphis in the AAC title game. I have zero doubt that if USF beats UCF and Memphis, USF will surpass Boise in the CFP and get the NY6 bid, no matter if Memphis has lost to ECU or not.




* Schools like Boise, Colorado State and SDSU are more likely to get a PAC bid than USF, but that's because USF will never in a million years get a PAC bid so that's irrelevant.

Do you think I really believed you would pull for any other AAC school?

You have made it clear over many years and many posts that you only pull for USF.

Oh, and SEC teams.

(11-20-2017 09:58 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 09:55 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 09:42 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 09:33 AM)PT_american Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 09:30 AM)TripleA Wrote:  No, it will be completely done if Memphis beats ECU. Even if USF beats UCF, think about that. USF would have ending wins over a ranked UCF and a ranked Memphis, and finish 11-1.

No way in hell Boise would jump USF OR Memphis.

So, the ONLY thing that matters is IF Memphis beats ECU.

We do that, and Boise is out. No way anybody jumps any of the 3 of us.

Does anybody here realistically think ECU will beat Memphis? It could be close for awhile, or maybe not a blowout, but Memphis is winning that game. Too much on the line for us to look ahead. Book it.

I agree the only scenario the American doesn't get the access is if ECU wins and I find that to be highly unlikely. I still don't think USF is ranked though after that dreadful performance on Friday. Guess we shall see though.

That part I agree with. And I think USF is the least likely of the 3 to win the AAC. But as long as Memphis beats ECU, USF will jump Boise if USF wins out.

So, if USF wins Friday, I expect Quo to be front and center pulling for Memphis on Saturday, lol.

My paramount goal is to see USF get in to the P5. This surpasses any other goal, including glory in a particular season. Would rather USF go 0-12 the next three years and then get invited to the ACC then go 12-0 the next three years but then remain stuck in the AAC. And while i don't think results on the field are the only thing, or even major thing, that matter, they do matter. Also, when i think about all the G5 schools that could get a P5 bid over USF, they are all in the AAC*.

So what it boils down to is this: the only time I want the AAC to get the NY6 bid is if it is USF, because I don't want any other AAC school to get that glory.

So no, I am rooting 100% for ECU, because that way, if Memphis wins the AAC, Memphis, and thus the AAC, might not get the NY6 bid.

And no, I am not worried that if Memphis loses to ECU, that could hurt USF (if we beat UCF) by devaluing a win over Memphis in the AAC title game. I have zero doubt that if USF beats UCF and Memphis, USF will surpass Boise in the CFP and get the NY6 bid, no matter if Memphis has lost to ECU or not.




* Schools like Boise, Colorado State and SDSU are more likely to get a PAC bid than USF, but that's because USF will never in a million years get a PAC bid so that's irrelevant.

Do you think I really believed you would pull for any other AAC school?

You have made it clear over many years and many posts that you only pull for USF.

Oh, and SEC teams.

FWIW, while I don't want any AAC schools to get an NY6 bid other than USF, if an AAC school not named USF has to get it, some AAC schools do bother me more than others, because I regard them as a bigger threat to our P5 hopes. Memphis is definitely in the "bigger threat" category.

(11-20-2017 09:40 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 08:32 AM)PurpleReigns Wrote:  I’m not saying ECU has a good chance at winning but IF Memphis is looking ahead to the championship game than we have a chance to at least make it interesting. Otherwise they are a ranked team and will most likely rout us like the others. Pretty sure we’ve had the toughest schedule of anyone this year.


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Sagarin says to date:
Navy 64th
UConn 65th
Tulsa 67th
ECU 69th

Massey says to date:
Navy 59th
Tulsa 66th
ECU 67th
But Massey has ECU moving up to 66th and Tulsa moving down after the final games.

Another reason why the AAC has so many teams ranked south of 100 --- and, which makes playing them a little dicey when its a NY6 bowl you aspire to.

(11-20-2017 10:55 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 09:40 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 08:32 AM)PurpleReigns Wrote:  I’m not saying ECU has a good chance at winning but IF Memphis is looking ahead to the championship game than we have a chance to at least make it interesting. Otherwise they are a ranked team and will most likely rout us like the others. Pretty sure we’ve had the toughest schedule of anyone this year.


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Sagarin says to date:
Navy 64th
UConn 65th
Tulsa 67th
ECU 69th

Massey says to date:
Navy 59th
Tulsa 66th
ECU 67th
But Massey has ECU moving up to 66th and Tulsa moving down after the final games.

Another reason why the AAC has so many teams ranked south of 100 --- and, which makes playing them a little dicey when its a NY6 bowl you aspire to.

AAC has four teams ranked in triple digits - a couple weeks ago that was only two.

However, that isn't really a relative disadvantage vs the G4s striving for NY6 spot. CUSA has 4, MAC has 4, mwc has 5, SunBelt has 8 (and 2 B12, a PAC12, and a BIG10 are down there). Below AAC's worst are all those "P5s", 6 SunBelt, 4 mwc, 3 MAC, and 3 CUSA.

It does hurt in comparing our contenders to the rest of the CFP rankings field - USF played all four of the triple-digit conference mates, UCF three, and Memphis two - especially before the next two weeks' games.

(11-20-2017 11:24 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 10:55 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 09:40 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 08:32 AM)PurpleReigns Wrote:  I’m not saying ECU has a good chance at winning but IF Memphis is looking ahead to the championship game than we have a chance to at least make it interesting. Otherwise they are a ranked team and will most likely rout us like the others. Pretty sure we’ve had the toughest schedule of anyone this year.


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Sagarin says to date:
Navy 64th
UConn 65th
Tulsa 67th
ECU 69th

Massey says to date:
Navy 59th
Tulsa 66th
ECU 67th
But Massey has ECU moving up to 66th and Tulsa moving down after the final games.

Another reason why the AAC has so many teams ranked south of 100 --- and, which makes playing them a little dicey when its a NY6 bowl you aspire to.

AAC has four teams ranked in triple digits - a couple weeks ago that was only two.

However, that isn't really a relative disadvantage vs the G4s striving for NY6 spot. CUSA has 4, MAC has 4, mwc has 5, SunBelt has 8 (and 2 B12, a PAC12, and a BIG10 are down there). Below AAC's worst are all those "P5s", 6 SunBelt, 4 mwc, 3 MAC, and 3 CUSA.

It does hurt in comparing our contenders to the rest of the CFP rankings field - USF played all four of the triple-digit conference mates, UCF three, and Memphis two - especially before the next two weeks' games.

Good post