(11-26-2017 12:58 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:53 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  came here for Tulane vs GSU basketball....but surprisingly found this thread.

yes, our football attendance is not great. This is our 8th season of football ever (3yrs as FCS). 1st year in our own stadium. 2nd year of bowl eligibility. Rome isn't built in a day.

Also, for what it's worth, UGA/GT game played at the same time 3 miles down the road. It's a big deal in Georgia.

I'm just giving one of your buddies hell.

lol give us time to get our brand out there. 50,000+ students per year will accelerate the process.

Let's just say.....I believe in our potential. $$$, institutional support, new stadium, and competent AD lined up perfectly for our young football program. Location in the fertile Atlanta market will certainly help.

(11-26-2017 12:23 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:22 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:18 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:16 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:02 PM)fanhood Wrote:  Damn. throwing stones. Did you not see the attendance at SMU this weekend? There were no more than 8k in that stadium. There were probably only 13k at the Hawaii vs BYU game. It is the life of the G5s man. That is why I am happy about SDSU's attendance this year.

Yeah...Ucf brings over 40k when playing well, ecu can bring 50k when playing well, Houston can bring 40k when playing well, Cincinnati can bring close 40k when playing well, etc....

Life in the p6

And SDSU lead all G5 conference teams in attendance, with four games of over 40k, attendance. What is your point?

My point is, teams in the G5, with little to play for do not draw well. Just look at average teams in the AAC like SMU and Temple.

Its a P5 world, and you are just living in it.

Outside of sdsu and Boise the entire mwc is hot garage. The aac has more drawing power especially with our P6 status

Maybe, but when SMU, Cinci, and Temple draw flies, it is hard to throw stones, glass houses and all.

Once again, a G4 fan whistling past the graveyard with that old refrain "we're all the same"
I look forward to seeing 2017 figures from the NCAA, but from 2016, the per-team average attendance of AAC's 12 teams: 31,549.5
mwc: 24,296.5

30% greater. That's not "we're all the same" - that's an A student vs a C student.
fanhood grabs SMU numbers. In 2016, SMU averaged 23,712 - 10th in the AAC but right at the mwc median. AAC's worst - would slide in ahead of four mwc teams.

It's a lot like the on field performance metric of composite rankings: only a couple mwc teams would be in the top HALF of the AAC, and the lowest AAC team can still lord it over the mwc.

(11-26-2017 05:57 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:23 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:22 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:18 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:16 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Yeah...Ucf brings over 40k when playing well, ecu can bring 50k when playing well, Houston can bring 40k when playing well, Cincinnati can bring close 40k when playing well, etc....

Life in the p6

And SDSU lead all G5 conference teams in attendance, with four games of over 40k, attendance. What is your point?

My point is, teams in the G5, with little to play for do not draw well. Just look at average teams in the AAC like SMU and Temple.

Its a P5 world, and you are just living in it.

Outside of sdsu and Boise the entire mwc is hot garage. The aac has more drawing power especially with our P6 status

Maybe, but when SMU, Cinci, and Temple draw flies, it is hard to throw stones, glass houses and all.

Once again, a G4 fan whistling past the graveyard with that old refrain "we're all the same"
I look forward to seeing 2017 figures from the NCAA, but from 2016, the per-team average attendance of AAC's 12 teams: 31,549.5
mwc: 24,296.5

30% greater. That's not "we're all the same" - that's an A student vs a C student.
fanhood grabs SMU numbers. In 2016, SMU averaged 23,712 - 10th in the AAC but right at the mwc median. AAC's worst - would slide in ahead of four mwc teams.

It's a lot like the on field performance metric of composite rankings: only a couple mwc teams would be in the top HALF of the AAC, and the lowest AAC team can still lord it over the mwc.

G4 is like the F students in school

(11-26-2017 05:57 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:23 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:22 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:18 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:16 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Yeah...Ucf brings over 40k when playing well, ecu can bring 50k when playing well, Houston can bring 40k when playing well, Cincinnati can bring close 40k when playing well, etc....

Life in the p6

And SDSU lead all G5 conference teams in attendance, with four games of over 40k, attendance. What is your point?

My point is, teams in the G5, with little to play for do not draw well. Just look at average teams in the AAC like SMU and Temple.

Its a P5 world, and you are just living in it.

Outside of sdsu and Boise the entire mwc is hot garage. The aac has more drawing power especially with our P6 status

Maybe, but when SMU, Cinci, and Temple draw flies, it is hard to throw stones, glass houses and all.

Once again, a G4 fan whistling past the graveyard with that old refrain "we're all the same"
I look forward to seeing 2017 figures from the NCAA, but from 2016, the per-team average attendance of AAC's 12 teams: 31,549.5
mwc: 24,296.5

30% greater. That's not "we're all the same" - that's an A student vs a C student.
fanhood grabs SMU numbers. In 2016, SMU averaged 23,712 - 10th in the AAC but right at the mwc median. AAC's worst - would slide in ahead of four mwc teams.

It's a lot like the on field performance metric of composite rankings: only a couple mwc teams would be in the top HALF of the AAC, and the lowest AAC team can still lord it over the mwc.

I never do this, because I generally believe a ticket sold is a ticket sold. However, for you to use SMU as an example is unreal. SMU announced 14,209 for the game against Tulane. I could not find a photo of the stands, but the attendance was also far less than that. Capacity is only 32k, and it looked to be 25% full at most.

If you are going to use an example, SMU does not do you justice. Come back with another one.

ECU has great attendance, they are just being hurt by a horrible coaching hire, and bad decisions by the administration. Navy has good attendance all things considered. UCF has always done well in this category when playing well. Even Cinci does quite well early in the year. But the rest of the programs struggle, and they struggle mightily. Again, its not your fault. Life in the G5.

Finally, at the end of the day. I don't really care. My program outdraws every program here. True, it has taken 8 straight bowl games, and three double digit win seasons. We will drop significantly if we start losing at any point.

1. Georgia State started taking athletics seriously less than a decade ago; in some ways just 3-4 years ago (current AD hired in August 2014). What they’ve achieved so far really does not mark the limits of what they can do.

2. The AAC overall is in much better shape — competitively, financially, and in terms of public/media interest — than the Mtn. West overall. Does anyone seriously dispute that?

3. SDSU would’ve been a great get for this league if things had worked out slightly different 5 years ago. SDSU made the decision that was in its best interest at the time, and I’ve never heard any AAC fan express any hard feelings towards SDSU about it. I still think that somewhere down the line, both SDSU and AAC will have cause to reconsider that scenario. We shall see.

(11-26-2017 06:21 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 05:57 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:23 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:22 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:18 PM)fanhood Wrote:  And SDSU lead all G5 conference teams in attendance, with four games of over 40k, attendance. What is your point?

My point is, teams in the G5, with little to play for do not draw well. Just look at average teams in the AAC like SMU and Temple.

Its a P5 world, and you are just living in it.

Outside of sdsu and Boise the entire mwc is hot garage. The aac has more drawing power especially with our P6 status

Maybe, but when SMU, Cinci, and Temple draw flies, it is hard to throw stones, glass houses and all.

Once again, a G4 fan whistling past the graveyard with that old refrain "we're all the same"
I look forward to seeing 2017 figures from the NCAA, but from 2016, the per-team average attendance of AAC's 12 teams: 31,549.5
mwc: 24,296.5

30% greater. That's not "we're all the same" - that's an A student vs a C student.
fanhood grabs SMU numbers. In 2016, SMU averaged 23,712 - 10th in the AAC but right at the mwc median. AAC's worst - would slide in ahead of four mwc teams.

It's a lot like the on field performance metric of composite rankings: only a couple mwc teams would be in the top HALF of the AAC, and the lowest AAC team can still lord it over the mwc.

I never do this, because I generally believe a ticket sold is a ticket sold. However, for you to use SMU as an example is unreal. SMU announced 14,209 for the game against Tulane. I could not find a photo of the stands, but the attendance was also far less than that. Capacity is only 32k, and it looked to be 25% full at most.

If you are going to use an example, SMU does not do you justice. Come back with another one.

ECU has great attendance, they are just being hurt by a horrible coaching hire, and bad decisions by the administration. Navy has good attendance all things considered. UCF has always done well in this category when playing well. Even Cinci does quite well early in the year. But the rest of the programs struggle, and they struggle mightily. Again, its not your fault. Life in the G5.

Finally, at the end of the day. I don't really care. My program outdraws every program here. True, it has taken 8 straight bowl games, and three double digit win seasons. We will drop significantly if we start losing at any point.

fanhood, YOU brought SMU into this discussion.
AND when you did bring up the AAC's 10th-best attendance team, you said "life in the G5s," which was why I got on my P6 vs G4 soapbox. You tried to use our #10 to equate the AAC with all the G4s - it's a fallacy like pulling Nevada's 18,501 and saying the mwc is just like FCS programs. And yet, YOUR cherry-picked example of AAC poor attendance still draws better than half the mwc.

Great job for the SDSU fanbase on attendance this season - which makes it one of maybe one or two mwc schools that would be in the top half of the AAC. It's a lot like on field performance (measured by composite rankings), or like viewership: one or two schools' attendance, or one or two games' viewers, crack the top half of AAC's measured performance.

Year after year, top to bottom, AAC is head and shoulders above the G4s on and off the field. Our best are better, with the occasional Boise, SDSU, or WMU last year being the exception that proves the rule; our worst are still ahead of multiple G4s on the field or in attendance, viewers, expenditures, etc. We're not all the same. I hope that gets validated with our next media deal and then strategically when we are on the inside looking out after the next great shakeup circa 2025.

None of this attempts to repudiate that SDSU had very good attendance this year. SDSU also had a great OOC win over Stanford and another quality win over Arizona State. I look forward to wearing my wager-won SDSU t-shirt after Navy beats Army. Congrats.

LOL.

San Diego State announced just under 29,000 for their game last week. There were maybe 15,000 there. Maybe. Glass houses.

Didn’t Georgia St announce a sellout for their opener? I remember seeing pics and it looked 95% empty.

(11-26-2017 08:40 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 08:36 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  Ga State having a football team is absurd. 13000 fans lol.

13,000 announced so maybe like 8,000. App State travels well so they probably had 1,000 of that number. So after the workers, players, coaches, etc maybe 300 people actually attended the game?

Time to invite some $EC schools. They love Atlanta!

(11-26-2017 07:34 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Didn’t Georgia St announce a sellout for their opener? I remember seeing pics and it looked 95% empty.

I was at the game. 24,000 was legit by end of the 1st quarter. Parking was a nightmare, concessions had long lines, and a lot of ppl were just exploring the concourse to tour the new stadium.