While complaining in an ESPN SportsCenter interview this morning about Alabama's game today against Mercer, and more generally about SEC late-season games against FCS and G5 opponents, Paul Finebaum couldn't limit himself to simply opining that SEC teams should play all such games early in the season. He had to use the words that they should "sweep the garbage out" before beginning conference play.

Really? I imagine a lot of folks will say this is just Finebaum being Finebaum, and I don't believe in discouraging people from speaking their minds in the name of political correctness. But IMHO labeling any group of college football players "garbage" is plain rude, and ESPN is paying Finebaum big bucks to do it.

I suppose it's just a symptom of the general devolution of popular culture that we've crossed the line from lauding frankness to rewarding open spite.

The “ Garbage “ in this instance is Mr Finebaum ... and his poorly chosen words to describe young men


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he is too stupid to understand the SEC SEC SEC loves this because while other conferences are beating up on each other and dropping in the rankings the SEC SEC SEC is moving up from their attrition and from having "random win" instead of a loss especially conference losses

look for the Big 10 and possibly the PAC 12 to go after this when they are left out of the playoffs this year and look for the SEC SEC SEC to tell them to F off

This also helps balance the inventory throughout the season for the conference’s TV partners.

This trend emerged as several SEC teams began to schedule weak opponents in preparation for their season ending rivalry games. It enabled them to spend more time game planning and practicing for their rival, and to play subs more minutes to protect starters from injury or allow time to heal from existing injuries.

These are the opponents this year.

SEC....................................Rival

Alabama - Mercer..................Auburn - La Monroe
South Carolina - Wofford........Clemson - The Citadel
Florida - UAB........................Florida State - Delaware State
Georgia - Kentucky (conf)......Georgia Tech - Duke (conf)
Kentucky - Georgia (conf)......Louisville - Syracuse (conf)

I really don't see any advantage being gained by anybody here.

I think it's a bootleg move. Not a fan of it at all.

I've always hated this practice. I think it skews the committee rankings too. I don't think schools that play these late season cupcakes get penalized for a drop in strength of schedule like they should. Meanwhile schools in other conferences are playing tough conference games this week and not getting nearly as much credit for winning. Heaven forbid you lose a conference this late because you are most assuredly knocked out of playoff contention.

Big 12 plays 9 conference games. Pac 12 plays 9 conference. B1G plays 9 conference.

SEC is getting a pass for this. Schedule a 9th conference game. That's all there is to it.

I hope Bama is penalized if they lose to Auburn and miss out to a one loss Miami or someone like that.

The lineup is unwatchable this weekend. Wisconsin UM is the biggest game and its late November.

(11-18-2017 10:08 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  Big 12 plays 9 conference games. Pac 12 plays 9 conference. B1G plays 9 conference.

SEC is getting a pass for this. Schedule a 9th conference game. That's all there is to it.

I hope Bama is penalized if they lose to Auburn and miss out to a one loss Miami or someone like that.

The lineup is unwatchable this weekend. Wisconsin UM is the biggest game and its late November.

Or, the B1G, Big 12 and PAC 12 could schedule 8 conference games. See how easy that is.

I have to say that people must think the selection committee is a bunch of easily fooled idiots. I don't think they are any dumber than the average poster here. Or any smarter, either. Give them a little credit.

(11-18-2017 10:32 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 10:08 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  Big 12 plays 9 conference games. Pac 12 plays 9 conference. B1G plays 9 conference.

SEC is getting a pass for this. Schedule a 9th conference game. That's all there is to it.

I hope Bama is penalized if they lose to Auburn and miss out to a one loss Miami or someone like that.

The lineup is unwatchable this weekend. Wisconsin UM is the biggest game and its late November.

Or, the B1G, Big 12 and PAC 12 could schedule 8 conference games. See how easy that is.

I have to say that people must think the selection committee is a bunch of easily fooled idiots. I don't think they are any dumber than the average poster here. Or any smarter, either. Give them a little cfredit.

yea all those conferences decided to play 9 conference games on their own so they can deal with that

I personally believe the SEC SEC SEC benefits from the late season body bag game, but other conferences can do they same if they wish

I personally advocate for the Big 12 to go to 7 conference games that does not mean I want to see D1-AA teams or especially MORE D1-AA games on the schedule for any team, but I would not be opposed to a late season G5 game for teams as one of those 5 OOC games for the same reason the SEC SEC SEC does it

I think it is plenty possible for the Big 12 to play 5 OOC games and pretty much avoid D1-AA games completely or only have some of the weaker teams at any one time play a single D1-AA game like many P5 programs do now including pretty much all of the SEC SEC SEC and they could still get good P5 games and quality G5 games as well

I feel that conferences beating up on pretty much each other and then waiting on 5 or 6 idiots to pick who is the best 4 pretty much sucks I would prefer to see more inter-conference games so that there is a lot more to look at on the field Vs so much subjective, but of the Big 10 and PAC 12 specifically wish to have 9 conference games and pay the price for that then I am all for it I just wish the Big 12 would wake up to the stupidity of it

(11-18-2017 10:05 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I've always hated this practice. I think it skews the committee rankings too. I don't think schools that play these late season cupcakes get penalized for a drop in strength of schedule like they should. Meanwhile schools in other conferences are playing tough conference games this week and not getting nearly as much credit for winning. Heaven forbid you lose a conference this late because you are most assuredly knocked out of playoff contention.

Have you considered how the rankings were at the first of the year? Three almost 4 Big 10 teams in the top 10 for the first three weeks when.......the Big 10 stacks their opening with such games. Both conferences play 9 P5 games, as does the Big 12. Kudos needs to go to some select schools which play 10 or in rare examples 11 P5 games. But the vast majority of college football programs plays 9.

Did any of you ever study the commutative & associative laws of mathematics? 9 P5 plus 3 lesser = 3 lesser plus 9 P5 = 1 P5 plus 2 lesser plus 7 P5 plus 1 lesser plus 1 P5. In the end it's all the same and the constant whine over this annually is ridiculous.

And for the record San Jose State may not be as tough as Mercer or La Monroe. Maction has been down lately but still remains a steady diet for the Big 10. And not all directional Texas schools are equal either.

your defending SEC-SunBelt challange

(11-18-2017 12:01 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  your defending SEC-SunBelt challange

not really much of a partnership when SunBelt teams never get to host SEC teams.

I'd just like to see some apples-to-apples comparisons. I don't care if you play 8 conference games or 9 but could everyone play 10 P5s?

JR I like you a lot and we've agreed a lot in the past but I have to differ with you on the lates season FCS/Sunbelt games. Those match ups are meant to be early season tune ups. Of course when tv dollars get involved Disney would be more than happy to bless these matchups because it means better options for games to broadcast the first 4 weeks of the season as conference games get moved up to accomodate for late season cupcakes.

Poor choice of words by Finebaum. It is to be expected when you have a limited vocabulary.

The ACC & SEC play a 9th P5 team which is at least comparable to playing 9 conference games.

There is no rule against this. If you think there is an advantage, schedule accordingly.

(11-18-2017 09:26 AM)ken d Wrote:  This trend emerged as several SEC teams began to schedule weak opponents in preparation for their season ending rivalry games. It enabled them to spend more time game planning and practicing for their rival, and to play subs more minutes to protect starters from injury or allow time to heal from existing injuries.

These are the opponents this year.

SEC....................................Rival

Alabama - Mercer..................Auburn - La Monroe
South Carolina - Wofford........Clemson - The Citadel
Florida - UAB........................Florida State - Delaware State
Georgia - Kentucky (conf)......Georgia Tech - Duke (conf)
Kentucky - Georgia (conf)......Louisville - Syracuse (conf)

I really don't see any advantage being gained by anybody here.

Georgia Southern says hi to Paul.
The Citadel says Hi to Paul.
La.-Monroe says hi to Paul.

All had wins in late season of football against SEC teams. Paul better watched out, or he will lit a fire under the powder keg that these garbage kids take out a W on the SEC teams.

(11-18-2017 09:19 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  This also helps balance the inventory throughout the season for the conference’s TV partners.

Yes, but Alabama-Mercer is inexcusable. Vanderbilt-Mercer is one thing. This is ridiculous and Alabama should be embarrassed and their fans should feel ripped off.

(11-18-2017 01:07 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  Poor choice of words by Finebaum. It is to be expected when you have a limited vocabulary.

The ACC & SEC play a 9th P5 team which is at least comparable to playing 9 conference games.

There is no rule against this. If you think there is an advantage, schedule accordingly.

Most Big 12, Big 10 and Pac 12 teams play 10 P5 games.

(11-18-2017 05:37 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 01:07 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  Poor choice of words by Finebaum. It is to be expected when you have a limited vocabulary.

The ACC & SEC play a 9th P5 team which is at least comparable to playing 9 conference games.

There is no rule against this. If you think there is an advantage, schedule accordingly.

Most Big 12, Big 10 and Pac 12 teams play 10 P5 games.

That may be true but there is no rule that says you have to play 10 P5 teams. If you think there is an advantage, schedule accordingly.

(11-18-2017 06:28 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 05:37 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 01:07 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  Poor choice of words by Finebaum. It is to be expected when you have a limited vocabulary.

The ACC & SEC play a 9th P5 team which is at least comparable to playing 9 conference games.

There is no rule against this. If you think there is an advantage, schedule accordingly.

Most Big 12, Big 10 and Pac 12 teams play 10 P5 games.

That may be true but there is no rule that says you have to play 10 P5 teams. If you think there is an advantage, schedule accordingly.

Nobody on here is scheduling anything since none of us are Athletic Directors. If the ACC and SEC are ok with scheduling Mercer etc... Well, keep scheduling accordingly.

Also, who was Mississippi States P5 this year?

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