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(12-19-2017 08:37 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 09:49 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  The Lady Hawks grabbed their first road win of the season on Saturday, a 65-60 victory @ Wofford.

Despite a game where we didn't move the ball effectively (9 assists) or protect the ball very well (18 turnovers), we gutted this one out. Lacey Suggs and Jenny DeGraaf each nearly has double-doubles, posting 15 points and 8 rebounds apiece. Chinyere Bell also had 15 points in the effort.

Where we won this game was at the free throw line. We were there 19 times compared to Wofford's 11, and shot at a better clip (73.7 %) than the Terriers did (63.6 %)

Chalk this up as another win we would NOT have gotten in season's past.

We've now won 3 of our last 4, improving to 4-4 vs. D-I competition with just one more non-conference game to go. We are # 200 in the RPI and will have plenty of opportunities to improve on that in CAA play. The league is ranked 10th in D-I based on RPI.

Next up: A very winnable home game against Georgia St. (1-6 vs D-I) on Thursday @ 1 PM.

Great to have the Ladies playing so well now. New coach definitely has things going in the right direction.
Can we really make that statement on such a small sample size? 05-stirthepot
I'm obviously kidding, but the conversation has to work both ways.....
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(12-19-2017 09:17 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-19-2017 08:37 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 09:49 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  The Lady Hawks grabbed their first road win of the season on Saturday, a 65-60 victory @ Wofford.

Despite a game where we didn't move the ball effectively (9 assists) or protect the ball very well (18 turnovers), we gutted this one out. Lacey Suggs and Jenny DeGraaf each nearly has double-doubles, posting 15 points and 8 rebounds apiece. Chinyere Bell also had 15 points in the effort.

Where we won this game was at the free throw line. We were there 19 times compared to Wofford's 11, and shot at a better clip (73.7 %) than the Terriers did (63.6 %)

Chalk this up as another win we would NOT have gotten in season's past.

We've now won 3 of our last 4, improving to 4-4 vs. D-I competition with just one more non-conference game to go. We are # 200 in the RPI and will have plenty of opportunities to improve on that in CAA play. The league is ranked 10th in D-I based on RPI.

Next up: A very winnable home game against Georgia St. (1-6 vs D-I) on Thursday @ 1 PM.

Great to have the Ladies playing so well now. New coach definitely has things going in the right direction.
Can we really make that statement on such a small sample size? 05-stirthepot
I'm obviously kidding, but the conversation has to work both ways.....

Yes Mullet Jr., because she's been a HC before and was successful there as well.

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mullet jr - I was beginning to think that myself. 03-wink

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(12-19-2017 12:04 PM)Proff Wrote:  mullet jr - I was beginning to think that myself. 03-wink

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haha F'ers... Oddly he's been more positive.
For the record, i don't think it should matter if they were a HC or not. If one sample size is too small to judge in one case, it's too small in the other as well. Can't have it both ways
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I think it has more to do with positive support for a good start with the women's program. I do expect more. Because we have three previously successful head coaches on this staff. It works up to me as a winning formula. Now it just needs to reflect that on the court.
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(12-19-2017 12:17 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-19-2017 12:04 PM)Proff Wrote:  mullet jr - I was beginning to think that myself. 03-wink

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haha F'ers... Oddly he's been more positive.
For the record, i don't think it should matter if they were a HC or not. If one sample size is too small to judge in one case, it's too small in the other as well. Can't have it both ways

We're drawing from a large sample of HC experience from Coach Barefoot. McGrath had zero HC experience from which to draw from.

The Wes Miller discussion is relevant here. His first 4 years at the HC level were lousy. His 5th year? Stellar. So of course it matters if he/she was a HC or not previously.

Keatts coming in and having great success right away as a HC was an aberration, not the rule.

Now, can we NOT turn the lone Women's thread into a Men's thread please?
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(12-19-2017 02:34 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(12-19-2017 12:17 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-19-2017 12:04 PM)Proff Wrote:  mullet jr - I was beginning to think that myself. 03-wink

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haha F'ers... Oddly he's been more positive.
For the record, i don't think it should matter if they were a HC or not. If one sample size is too small to judge in one case, it's too small in the other as well. Can't have it both ways

We're drawing from a large sample of HC experience from Coach Barefoot. McGrath had zero HC experience from which to draw from.

The Wes Miller discussion is relevant here. His first 4 years at the HC level were lousy. His 5th year? Stellar. So of course it matters if he/she was a HC or not previously.

Keatts coming in and having great success right away as a HC was an aberration, not the rule.

Now, can we NOT turn the lone Women's thread into a Men's thread please?

The Beat and the Beard actually discussed that in their last podcast. Mike (I think it was Mike) mentioned that perhaps Keatts' experience as a HC at Hargrave Military Academy (Prep School) gave him something to build on there and at the least afforded himself an experience in a HC position prior to taking the reigns at UNCW.
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(12-19-2017 12:17 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-19-2017 12:04 PM)Proff Wrote:  mullet jr - I was beginning to think that myself. 03-wink

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haha F'ers... Oddly he's been more positive.
For the record, i don't think it should matter if they were a HC or not. If one sample size is too small to judge in one case, it's too small in the other as well. Can't have it both ways

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Uncw should beat Georgia st. Up 71-62 28 seconds left

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I watched the second half...nice to see a competitive team, and there are a few nice pieces to build around in the future (Crisp and Suggs). Degraaf had a nice game and I like Raque as a complimentary player as well. I really liked Riley's article on Suggs; great to see hard work and perseverance rewarded.
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After a competitive game at Elon, who was picked second, they had a disappointing performance to open home CAA play against W&M.
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(01-03-2018 08:17 AM)ml1323 Wrote:  After a competitive game at Elon, who was picked second, they had a disappointing performance to open home CAA play against W&M.

I think they are doing well, considering they still have a lot of pieces to fill. Looks to me, with three staff members with successful head coaching experience, the best is yet to come.
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The Ladies dropped a close one tonight on the road, 72-71 to Towson. This despite Madison Raque's 29 points on 10-19 shooting (6-12 from 3) and Lacey Suggs adding 21 points.

We fall to 0-5 in league play. Our next shot at getting Coach Barefoot her first CAA win will be @ Drexel on Sunday afternoon.
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The ladies got blown out at home by Delaware tonight, 82-49. The Seahawks fall to 0-7 in league play.

It doesn't get any easier on Sunday, as JMU, 6-0 in the league and # 86 in the RPI, comes to town.
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(01-19-2018 09:44 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  The ladies got blown out at home by Delaware tonight, 82-49. The Seahawks fall to 0-7 in league play.

It doesn't get any easier on Sunday, as JMU, 6-0 in the league and # 86 in the RPI, comes to town.

What happened here? Honest question. They seem to have the opposite problem of the Men's team. they played much better out of conference.
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(01-19-2018 10:38 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  What happened here? Honest question. They seem to have the opposite problem of the Men's team. they played much better out of conference.

Our non-conference schedule wasn't particularly challenging. Which was kind of a good thing; this program needed to build some confidence. But our BEST win was a home victory over ECU....current RPI # 250. 3 of our other 4 wins came against teams outside the Top 300.

Then, you enter league play, against the # 10 league in the country (last year - # 8), and bam.....wakeup call comes. We did play Towson close on the road (72-71 L). In fact, our first 5 CAA losses were each by single digits. But we just can't seem to get over the hump yet.

I think we do have a team capable of winning some league games this year, but the last 6 years of this program struggling prior to Coach Barefoot's arrival really put us behind the other teams in this league. It'll take some time before we can expect to be a legitimate contender.
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(01-19-2018 11:59 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(01-19-2018 10:38 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  What happened here? Honest question. They seem to have the opposite problem of the Men's team. they played much better out of conference.

Our non-conference schedule wasn't particularly challenging. Which was kind of a good thing; this program needed to build some confidence. But our BEST win was a home victory over ECU....current RPI # 250. 3 of our other 4 wins came against teams outside the Top 300.

Then, you enter league play, against the # 10 league in the country (last year - # 8), and bam.....wakeup call comes. We did play Towson close on the road (72-71 L). In fact, our first 5 CAA losses were each by single digits. But we just can't seem to get over the hump yet.

I think we do have a team capable of winning some league games this year, but the last 6 years of this program struggling prior to Coach Barefoot's arrival really put us behind the other teams in this league. It'll take some time before we can expect to be a legitimate contender.
I thought we may have played some weak teams OOC but don't follow it close enough to know one way or another.
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I'm gonna trust that this is the growing pains of Barefoot's first season at the helm of what hasn't been a very good women's program. Hopefully she'll be able to build on that OOC success, the adversity from conference play this year, and we'll start seeing results next year. Barefoot is a solid coach. She deserves time to mold this program.
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(01-21-2018 10:08 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I'm gonna trust that this is the growing pains of Barefoot's first season at the helm of what hasn't been a very good women's program. Hopefully she'll be able to build on that OOC success, the adversity from conference play this year, and we'll start seeing results next year. Barefoot is a solid coach. She deserves time to mold this program.

she will get it! I was asking questions because honestly i don't know much about it. I do know we have stunk for a long time and she has a solid history. I think she will be fine
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0-8 after a home loss to JMU. Ugh.

We definitely will have our chances to win some league games this year, however. 2 games against Charleston, and a home game against Towson should yield a win or even 2 or 3. And there should be a surprise win or 2 somewhere down the line.

Madison Raque and Lacey Suggs are struggling in particular lately, but if they can get their confidence back, that'll be huge.
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