(11-14-2017 02:28 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  8 years of hatred of Obama does though.

If you think Donald Trump is only the result of eight years of hatred of Obama you're going to be really surprised in 2020!

There’s a lot of hate on the American left for people who are Not Like Them. We see it and hear it, even among our friends and acquaintances who are left of center, as many of them think the "vast flyover Trumpkins" are just plain less human than they are. That is why Trump.

Really they don’t even bother trying to hide it; look at all the posts about how awesome Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel and John Oliver are as the three of them marinade in disdain for those they consider their inferiors. That is why Trump.

One of the interesting things about liberals is that they blame the people who live in the flyover states for their backwardness and poverty and racism. They don’t do that for any place outside of the United States. If you said to one of these self-proclaimed elites that the people of Alabama are poor because they are Trump voting idiots, you would get no disagreement. But if you said the same thing about, say, Vietnam or Nigeria, you would get a lecture on bigotry. That is why Trump.

If the Washington Post was writing about arranged marriages between Muslims, they’d be admonishing the rest of the nation to respect Muslim culture. If they were writing about teen unwed pregnancy in the Black community, they’d be demanding jail for anybody who hinted at disapproval of that cultural norm. But if it’s a white America cultural issue, then it’s fair game. All cultures are equal and deserving of respect – except one. And that is why Trump.

Trump 2020.

(11-14-2017 03:06 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 02:28 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  8 years of hatred of Obama does though.

If you think Donald Trump is only the result of eight years of hatred of Obama you're going to be really surprised in 2020!

There’s a lot of hate on the American left for people who are Not Like Them. We see it and hear it, even among our friends and acquaintances who are left of center, as many of them think the "vast flyover Trumpkins" are just plain less human than they are. That is why Trump.

Really they don’t even bother trying to hide it; look at all the posts about how awesome Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel are as the two of them marinade in disdain for those they consider their inferiors. That is why Trump.

One of the interesting things about liberals is that they blame the people who live in, for instance the southern States, for their backwardness and poverty and racism. They don’t do that for any place outside of the United States. If you said to one of these self-proclaimed elites that the people of Alabama are poor because they are Trump voting idiots, you would get no disagreement. But if you said the same thing about, say, Vietnam or Nigeria, you would get a lecture on bigotry. That is why Trump.

If the Washingto Post was writing about arranged marriages between Muslims, they’d be admonishing the rest of the nation to respect Muslim culture. If they were writing about teen unwed pregnancy in the Black community, they’d be demanding jail for anybody who hinted at disapproval of that cultural norm. But if it’s a white America cultural issue, then it’s fair game. All cultures are equal and deserving of respect – except one. And that is why Trump.

Trump 2020.

I don't disagree with anything you said when it comes to the extreme leftists.

I have no doubt that the next election is going to be even more contentious as the last.

What you fail to acknowledge however is the history of this country. Our history is a scar on our country that will never be forgotten.

It isn't fair, it isn't right but it's a reality. The South will always be blamed for the Civil War and slavery and segregation etc. etc.

It's like I said about cheating on your wife. She may forgive you but she will never forget what you did.

(11-14-2017 03:06 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 02:28 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  8 years of hatred of Obama does though.

If you think Donald Trump is only the result of eight years of hatred of Obama you're going to be really surprised in 2020!

There’s a lot of hate on the American left for people who are Not Like Them. We see it and hear it, even among our friends and acquaintances who are left of center, as many of them think the "vast flyover Trumpkins" are just plain less human than they are. That is why Trump.

Really they don’t even bother trying to hide it; look at all the posts about how awesome Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel are as the two of them marinade in disdain for those they consider their inferiors. That is why Trump.

One of the interesting things about liberals is that they blame the people who live in, for instance the southern States, for their backwardness and poverty and racism. They don’t do that for any place outside of the United States. If you said to one of these self-proclaimed elites that the people of Alabama are poor because they are Trump voting idiots, you would get no disagreement. But if you said the same thing about, say, Vietnam or Nigeria, you would get a lecture on bigotry. That is why Trump.

If the Washingto Post was writing about arranged marriages between Muslims, they’d be admonishing the rest of the nation to respect Muslim culture. If they were writing about teen unwed pregnancy in the Black community, they’d be demanding jail for anybody who hinted at disapproval of that cultural norm. But if it’s a white America cultural issue, then it’s fair game. All cultures are equal and deserving of respect – except one. And that is why Trump.

Trump 2020.

Again, you guys are off topic. Yes its true that Liberals and Educated people think that Trump voters are dumber than they are. But guess what...so do Economic Republicans...

Either way, the choices that Breitbarters make, such as nominating Moore just to p(ss people off isn't changing that perception, or their pecking order in society..

Its simply confirming it.

They only dragged Trump across the 46 yard line last time because they had the help of the economic conservatives that were willing to put up with those guys....now they're flipping them the bird.

Roy Moore is less about trolling liberals than it is about the Breitbarters saying FU to the economic conservatives.

Basically, it looks like the white version of playerhating. They might or might not be dumb. But they are smart enough to realize that globalization is unstoppable and that they will be the losers from it. And that its basically unstoppable. So they'll just vote for the guy that the winners dislike the most, just to piss the winners off.

But the real problem they have is this.. They still need some non Breitbarters to support them in order to win nationally. Roy Moore ain't helpin.

(11-14-2017 03:06 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  so signing a yearbook proves rape? interesting....

1. Nobody said anything of the sort.
2. Nobody was raped.
3. This proves he lied about knowing her.
4. This proves he lied about never hearing of the restaurant in question.
5. This qualifies him to represent the GOP today.

Congrats!

(11-14-2017 03:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 03:06 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  so signing a yearbook proves rape? interesting....

1. Nobody said anything of the sort.
2. Nobody was raped.
3. This proves he lied about knowing her.
4. This proves he lied about never hearing of the restaurant in question.
5. This qualifies him to represent the GOP today.

Congrats!

Yea, Roy is accused of sexual assault.

(11-14-2017 03:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 03:06 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  so signing a yearbook proves rape? interesting....

1. Nobody said anything of the sort.
2. Nobody was raped.
3. This proves he lied about knowing her.
4. This proves he lied about never hearing of the restaurant in question.
5. This qualifies him to represent the GOP today.

Congrats!

ok then, so singing your name proves that you know the person?

(11-14-2017 03:57 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 03:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 03:06 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  so signing a yearbook proves rape? interesting....

1. Nobody said anything of the sort.
2. Nobody was raped.
3. This proves he lied about knowing her.
4. This proves he lied about never hearing of the restaurant in question.
5. This qualifies him to represent the GOP today.

Congrats!

ok then, so singing your name proves that you know the person?

Well technically all it does is prove that they've met. Are you really arguing that Roy just went around signing people's yearbooks that he didn't know? Some 32 year old nobody (and an Asst DA isn't really that big of a deal)....

If they were going to just doctor something, then they'd probably come up with a love letter.

(11-14-2017 04:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 03:57 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 03:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 03:06 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  so signing a yearbook proves rape? interesting....

1. Nobody said anything of the sort.
2. Nobody was raped.
3. This proves he lied about knowing her.
4. This proves he lied about never hearing of the restaurant in question.
5. This qualifies him to represent the GOP today.

Congrats!

ok then, so singing your name proves that you know the person?

Well technically all it does is prove that they've met. Are you really arguing that Roy just went around signing people's yearbooks that he didn't know? Some 32 year old nobody (and an Asst DA isn't really that big of a deal)....

If they were going to just doctor something, then they'd probably come up with a love letter.

isnt that what professional athletes do when they give out autographs?

(11-14-2017 04:07 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 04:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 03:57 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 03:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 03:06 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  so signing a yearbook proves rape? interesting....

1. Nobody said anything of the sort.
2. Nobody was raped.
3. This proves he lied about knowing her.
4. This proves he lied about never hearing of the restaurant in question.
5. This qualifies him to represent the GOP today.

Congrats!

ok then, so singing your name proves that you know the person?

Well technically all it does is prove that they've met. Are you really arguing that Roy just went around signing people's yearbooks that he didn't know? Some 32 year old nobody (and an Asst DA isn't really that big of a deal)....

If they were going to just doctor something, then they'd probably come up with a love letter.

isnt that what professional athletes do when they give out autographs?

Are you really arguing that Assistant DA's have fangirls?

Dude, Gloria Allred might be many things, but she ain't dumb. She's not going to doctor evidence like that.

(11-14-2017 10:12 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Whether Moore is guilty or innocent, these allegations will hurt him politically.

Kind of my point

(11-14-2017 10:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:Innocent until proven guilty is for criminal convictions, not elections. I believe Leigh Corfman. Her account is too serious to ignore. Moore is unfit for office and should step aside. ~ @mittromney, 10/10/17

And that quote was BEFORE this latest woman came forward!

I wonder how mitt felt about that when Reid said "he had proof" romney paid no taxes..

(11-14-2017 04:39 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 10:12 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Whether Moore is guilty or innocent, these allegations will hurt him politically.

Kind of my point

I'm not so sure. My black neighborhood was going to turn out massively because of 16th Street, period. Bannon fantasies aside, we can each only vote against Roy Moore once, and pencilling in the oval extra hard doesn't make the vote count extra hard.

I thought Doug had a chance if the bammers stayed home. I'm less sure of that now that rural Alabama's been poked with a stick. People can overlook an awful lot of awful when they really want to be convinced.

(11-14-2017 04:57 PM)58-56 Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 04:39 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 10:12 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Whether Moore is guilty or innocent, these allegations will hurt him politically.

Kind of my point

I'm not so sure. My black neighborhood was going to turn out massively because of 16th Street, period. Bannon fantasies aside, we can each only vote against Roy Moore once, and pencilling in the oval extra hard doesn't make the vote count extra hard.

I thought Doug had a chance if the bammers stayed home. I'm less sure of that now that rural Alabama's been poked with a stick. People can overlook an awful lot of awful when they really want to be convinced.

Birmingham lecturing rural people about morals and ethics. Tell me more. This should be good.

(11-14-2017 10:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 09:55 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I see two issues here.

Roy Moore is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
Roy Moore only has to convince the voters of Alabama that he is fit to be Senator.

It's irrelevant what I think.

Well...gee...you're basically making the case that no one should ever click the 'Post Reply' button on this site...lol

But seriously, this has nothing to do with courts or law. This woman is not seeking a monetary or criminal case. It goes to what behavior should we tolerate from our elected officials that are supposed to be representations of us. I realize you're not an Alabama resident, but still.

Anyway, I find myself agreeing with Mitt Romney quite a bit of late. Thanks trump!

Quote:Innocent until proven guilty is for criminal convictions, not elections. I believe Leigh Corfman. Her account is too serious to ignore. Moore is unfit for office and should step aside. ~ @mittromney, 10/10/17

And that quote was BEFORE this latest woman came forward!

I don’t have a dog in this fight, Moore’s kinda creeped me out going back (20?) yrs ago, BUT

if this turns out to be yet another relatively unfounded hit piece by the ComPost, as has famously been said prior, where does one go to get their good name back?

Further, don’t get too far out over your skis here. This latest person, with a very public signature in a yearbook...( lousy attempt to hide something, esp for a sitting DA), is there at the podium “represented” by none other than Allred herself.

You can likely bet your last dime there’ll be a monetary shakedown of one sort or another coming up.

Funny (not haha, funny) there have been two people mentioned here primarily.

Moore and Weinstein. What do the two of them otherwise have in common regarding these recent allegations? And who was speaking for and/or against each of them?

Small world indeed, I guess...

(11-14-2017 05:09 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 04:57 PM)58-56 Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 04:39 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 10:12 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Whether Moore is guilty or innocent, these allegations will hurt him politically.

Kind of my point

I'm not so sure. My black neighborhood was going to turn out massively because of 16th Street, period. Bannon fantasies aside, we can each only vote against Roy Moore once, and pencilling in the oval extra hard doesn't make the vote count extra hard.

I thought Doug had a chance if the bammers stayed home. I'm less sure of that now that rural Alabama's been poked with a stick. People can overlook an awful lot of awful when they really want to be convinced.

Birmingham lecturing rural people about morals and ethics. Tell me more. This should be good.

That part's behind the pay wall, Skippy.

At this point, guilty or not, he should probably withdraw,

Moore's camp = the Clintons attacking the victims.

(11-14-2017 02:28 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 01:12 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 01:01 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  The election of Donald Trump basically broke all of the rules.

This is the new America. Trump's America

Trump threw allegations at all his political opponents and he was elected anyway.

This IS the new normal and Trump is the reason.

Thanks Trump

50 years of liberalism brings us Donald Trump and the problem is Donald Trump?

No it doesn't

8 years of hatred of Obama does though.

Wasn’t zerO elected twice with all these hatin’ honkys out here?

How’d that happen? Odd.

Now that I take a closer look at that signature, the more and more it looks fake to me


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(11-14-2017 05:09 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 04:57 PM)58-56 Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 04:39 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 10:12 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Whether Moore is guilty or innocent, these allegations will hurt him politically.

Kind of my point

I'm not so sure. My black neighborhood was going to turn out massively because of 16th Street, period. Bannon fantasies aside, we can each only vote against Roy Moore once, and pencilling in the oval extra hard doesn't make the vote count extra hard.

I thought Doug had a chance if the bammers stayed home. I'm less sure of that now that rural Alabama's been poked with a stick. People can overlook an awful lot of awful when they really want to be convinced.

Birmingham lecturing rural people about morals and ethics. Tell me more. This should be good.

LOL!

For real...

Birmingham...