The idea that having Tubby as a basketball coach will help us get into a P5 conference is just silly.

(11-13-2017 08:34 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 07:20 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  Couldn't the AD and President meet with TS and tell him and his staff to get of their ass and recruit. Give them a direct order. And if they don't do it then that is grounds for dismissal. I know there is a lot of gray area there but when your boss tells you to do something and you can't/don't do it then that is grounds for dismissal.

If the contract allows it, they could direct Tubby to dump his son and hire a proven, competent recruiter. Tubby, who is elderly and rich, would likely resign in protest.

Depends on the contract terms. Instead of quitting in protest he could sue and get the full amount of his buyout and then some. That's a chance you might take with that tack.

Why didnt we use the search firm that got us Fuente & Norvell?
Sounds like we didnt really talk to Tubby and understand his methods and how they might work in our program. I havent completely given up on Tubby, but I am very pessimistic given the Bama game and current recruiting state.

(11-13-2017 08:57 PM)former guest Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 08:34 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 07:20 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  Couldn't the AD and President meet with TS and tell him and his staff to get of their ass and recruit. Give them a direct order. And if they don't do it then that is grounds for dismissal. I know there is a lot of gray area there but when your boss tells you to do something and you can't/don't do it then that is grounds for dismissal.

If the contract allows it, they could direct Tubby to dump his son and hire a proven, competent recruiter. Tubby, who is elderly and rich, would likely resign in protest.

Depends on the contract terms. Instead of quitting in protest he could sue and get the full amount of his buyout and then some. That's a chance you might take with that tack.

Tubby is a smart man and I assume (I could be wrong, certainly) he ensured control over the hiring and firing of his staff.

(11-13-2017 07:12 PM)presskh Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 07:05 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 06:53 PM)mphsfan Wrote:  There is no logic in buying out Tubby right now. If we couldn't afford to buyout JP, we sure won't buyout an historic figure in college basketball. He will keep this program out of trouble while we build a football program worthy of P5 consideration.

I agree 100%, There is no reason to buy him out now. Too much treasure when FB needs to be the focus.

At this point, Tubby (who is a first ballot HOFer overall) is not panning out to be a good hire, but there is little reason to spend the cash, especially since he is such an honorable guy.

We can get pack in the top 25 if we make a good hire once Tubby's buyout is down, best to play it out, pour our resources into the FB program and bide our time.

Agree about football. About the top 25, we are light years from that at this point in basketball. We will need to start landing some top 100 recruits to get back into it.

Concur, but you can get back in the mix in hoops with 2 back to back recruiting classes due to the relative scholarship amounts...

(11-13-2017 07:04 PM)TubbyBall Wrote:  There is no logic needed because there was no logic in paying the guy 3M a year. I’m a huge fan and I’m feeling extremely frustrated by what I saw last season and really frustrated by what I saw in the Alabama game. I’ll pray this team improves but he’s not working, he’s not recruiting and it’s extremely obvious

Thanks for weighing in Joe

Glad to see you're coming to you senses

Too little too late

(11-13-2017 08:53 PM)jamammy Wrote:  The idea that having Tubby as a basketball coach will help us get into a P5 conference is just silly.

It's beyond silly

It's a complete joke

(11-13-2017 10:32 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 07:04 PM)TubbyBall Wrote:  There is no logic needed because there was no logic in paying the guy 3M a year. I’m a huge fan and I’m feeling extremely frustrated by what I saw last season and really frustrated by what I saw in the Alabama game. I’ll pray this team improves but he’s not working, he’s not recruiting and it’s extremely obvious

Thanks for weighing in Joe

Glad to see you're coming to you senses

Too little too late

Can we please ban people on this board for harassing other posters telling us we are this alias or that alias. It’s beyond old. Hell I don’t even post that often

(11-13-2017 11:18 PM)TubbyBall Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 10:32 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 07:04 PM)TubbyBall Wrote:  There is no logic needed because there was no logic in paying the guy 3M a year. I’m a huge fan and I’m feeling extremely frustrated by what I saw last season and really frustrated by what I saw in the Alabama game. I’ll pray this team improves but he’s not working, he’s not recruiting and it’s extremely obvious

Thanks for weighing in Joe

Glad to see you're coming to you senses

Too little too late

Can we please ban people on this board for harassing other posters telling us we are this alias or that alias. It’s beyond old. Hell I don’t even post that often

I agree. It’s beyond ridiculous. The idea that there is a band of folks that love Tubby to the detriment of the team is dumb. Somehow all of the sudden “I’m coming to my senses”, or you (Tubbyball) has, but of course Tubbyball and Joe1 is the same poster

Keep em coming, Chris, you never disappoint.

Too little to late is a nice touch, despite being way wrong, it’s fun to make *hit up.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gKRNRz6VK_k

(11-13-2017 10:33 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 08:53 PM)jamammy Wrote:  The idea that having Tubby as a basketball coach will help us get into a P5 conference is just silly.

It's beyond silly

It's a complete joke

(11-14-2017 12:30 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 10:33 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 08:53 PM)jamammy Wrote:  The idea that having Tubby as a basketball coach will help us get into a P5 conference is just silly.

It's beyond silly

It's a complete joke

The idea that the person who is the basketball coach has anything to do with getting into a P5 conference is what is beyond silly.

(11-14-2017 01:02 AM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 12:30 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 10:33 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 08:53 PM)jamammy Wrote:  The idea that having Tubby as a basketball coach will help us get into a P5 conference is just silly.

It's beyond silly

It's a complete joke

The idea that the person who is the basketball coach has anything to do with getting into a P5 conference is what is beyond silly.

Some people do better when they can assign some lofty reason to the pain.

The only thing that makes sense about having Tubby here to build a football program is eventually they won't have to spend as much money on it. We need basketball money to pay for football. I don't know why people keep acting like Tubby is the ONLY coach in the world who won't get us in trouble.

(11-14-2017 01:02 AM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 12:30 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 10:33 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 08:53 PM)jamammy Wrote:  The idea that having Tubby as a basketball coach will help us get into a P5 conference is just silly.

It's beyond silly

It's a complete joke

The idea that the person who is the basketball coach has anything to do with getting into a P5 conference is what is beyond silly.

And the continual calling for Tubby to be fired is beyond silly - since no one here has any influence to make that happen. You might as well way in, giving advice on global warming or a cure for cancer because I'm guessing no one here will have any influence in those venues either.

(11-14-2017 09:52 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 01:02 AM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 12:30 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 10:33 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 08:53 PM)jamammy Wrote:  The idea that having Tubby as a basketball coach will help us get into a P5 conference is just silly.

It's beyond silly

It's a complete joke

The idea that the person who is the basketball coach has anything to do with getting into a P5 conference is what is beyond silly.

And the continual calling for Tubby to be fired is beyond silly - since no one here has any influence to make that happen. You might as well way in, giving advice on global warming or a cure for cancer because I'm guessing no one here will have any influence in those venues either.

You are comparing Tubby getting fired to finding a cure for cancer and global warming?

#smh

Come on, breh.

You may be a sicker puppy than TG4.

(11-13-2017 10:32 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 07:04 PM)TubbyBall Wrote:  There is no logic needed because there was no logic in paying the guy 3M a year. I’m a huge fan and I’m feeling extremely frustrated by what I saw last season and really frustrated by what I saw in the Alabama game. I’ll pray this team improves but he’s not working, he’s not recruiting and it’s extremely obvious

Thanks for weighing in Joe

Glad to see you're coming to you senses

Too little too late

Asinine post. Tiger fans that are waiting to see actual results, especially season ticket holders, are not people that are “coming to our senses”, actually we are simply waiting to see what happens. Most folks here and especially ones that attend games don’t need help from anyone on figuring out whether or not a coach can get the job done. Also, it’s bogus to say “too little to late”, it’s never too late for someone to change their mind about anything and shouldn’t be ridiculed for changing their stance. Of course I’m not changing my stance because I never claimed to be some Tubby loving guy that thinks Tubby can do no wrong. Lastly, I never said Tubby was going to do great here and I’m not a cheerleader for Tubby Smith. Along with others here simply wanted to wait before we criticize him, the fact that I’m choosing to wait before I start criticizing him bothers you, but I don’t give a damn.

The logic will be when Memphis has an average butt in seats attendance of about 4,100 means they come nowhere close to the 6,000 needed to get any money from the Grizz.

Also, having about 3,000 fewer people a game less than they should have (at $15-$20 a ticket) means about $1,000,000 less just ticket revenues.

So missing out on about $500,000 on attendance bonus and missing ticket revenue will be an issue at some point.

(11-14-2017 10:10 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  The logic will be when Memphis has an average butt in seats attendance of about 4,100 means they come nowhere close to the 6,000 needed to get any money from the Grizz.

Also, having about 3,000 fewer people a game less than they should have (at $15-$20 a ticket) means about $1,000,000 less just ticket revenues.

So missing out on about $500,000 on attendance bonus and missing ticket revenue will be an issue at some point.

Now this is a post with merit.