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RE: Fornelli Top 50
(11-10-2017 09:29 PM)KSDTROJAN99 Wrote:  
(11-10-2017 05:36 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(11-10-2017 02:18 PM)KSDTROJAN99 Wrote:  SunBelt Team Talent Rankings
Based on 247 class rankings for the last 3 years using a reverse point system 11 points for 1st to 1 point for 11th.
Trending pattern based on year to year comparisons.

1. GASO (Trending Down) 28 pts
2. TXST (Trending Up) 23 pts
3. USA (Trending Down) 23 pts
4. TROY (Trending Up) 22 pts
5. stAte (Trending Down) 22 pts
6. UL (Trending Down) 21 pts
7. ULM (Trending Up) 18 pts
8. APST (Trending Flat) 17 pts
9. GAST (Trending Up) 12 pts
10. IDAHO (Trending Down) 8 pts
11. NMSU (Trending Flat) 4 pts

Based on this you're right about APST but incorrect about TROY. It also appears based on this quick observation that stAte is not as talented as you claim and GASO is the best team strictly based on 247 talent rankings.

Well you have the advantage.

Fill in those ratings for the SBC teams 247 would appreciate it. I just contacted 247 and they told me they have deleted some of the player ratings an trying to get it right is a struggle. When I filled in the data for the players on your game notes depth chart, vs A-State's you did not match up there, but did not do the whole roster.

Per John Garcia Jr about the missing data, "I have absolutely no idea, honestly. We have been fighting database merger battles everyday. Many profiles were wiped out all together so it's been a work in progress at best."

https://247sports.com/Season/2017-Footba...erence=SBC
As you have stated, therein lies the problem. So many times I've watched a player rating drop because the player decides to play for a G5 team and his 4* status drops to 3* or 3* drops to 2*. All rating systems are biased to the P5 which is proven each year by talent the NFL takes from G5 and FCS.
Well I cannot disagree, but I still have good enough data from last year on the talent on each roster to predict that they would be favored in all their SBC games.

While I'm 99.9999999999999% sure that will be the case next year, I'm never going to mention it again.

Of course I'm not saying they will win them all, just shoud.

Probably should not have chimed in this time but some A-State posters here were saying a few weeks ago they would be favored in all but the Troy game, and I was just letting them know they were wrong, they would be favored in all of them.

Letting A-State posters know they are wrong about their team, or coach is something I am going to have to stop doing.
(This post was last modified: 11-11-2017 09:04 AM by Seminole Indian.)
11-11-2017 09:02 AM
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RE: Fornelli Top 50
(11-11-2017 09:02 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(11-10-2017 09:29 PM)KSDTROJAN99 Wrote:  
(11-10-2017 05:36 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(11-10-2017 02:18 PM)KSDTROJAN99 Wrote:  SunBelt Team Talent Rankings
Based on 247 class rankings for the last 3 years using a reverse point system 11 points for 1st to 1 point for 11th.
Trending pattern based on year to year comparisons.

1. GASO (Trending Down) 28 pts
2. TXST (Trending Up) 23 pts
3. USA (Trending Down) 23 pts
4. TROY (Trending Up) 22 pts
5. stAte (Trending Down) 22 pts
6. UL (Trending Down) 21 pts
7. ULM (Trending Up) 18 pts
8. APST (Trending Flat) 17 pts
9. GAST (Trending Up) 12 pts
10. IDAHO (Trending Down) 8 pts
11. NMSU (Trending Flat) 4 pts

Based on this you're right about APST but incorrect about TROY. It also appears based on this quick observation that stAte is not as talented as you claim and GASO is the best team strictly based on 247 talent rankings.

Well you have the advantage.

Fill in those ratings for the SBC teams 247 would appreciate it. I just contacted 247 and they told me they have deleted some of the player ratings an trying to get it right is a struggle. When I filled in the data for the players on your game notes depth chart, vs A-State's you did not match up there, but did not do the whole roster.

Per John Garcia Jr about the missing data, "I have absolutely no idea, honestly. We have been fighting database merger battles everyday. Many profiles were wiped out all together so it's been a work in progress at best."

https://247sports.com/Season/2017-Footba...erence=SBC
As you have stated, therein lies the problem. So many times I've watched a player rating drop because the player decides to play for a G5 team and his 4* status drops to 3* or 3* drops to 2*. All rating systems are biased to the P5 which is proven each year by talent the NFL takes from G5 and FCS.
Well I cannot disagree, but I still have good enough data from last year on the talent on each roster to predict that they would be favored in all their SBC games.

While I'm 99.9999999999999% sure that will be the case next year, I'm never going to mention it again.

Of course I'm not saying they will win them all, just shoud.

Probably should not have chimed in this time but some A-State posters here were saying a few weeks ago they would be favored in all but the Troy game, and I was just letting them know they were wrong, they would be favored in all of them.

Letting A-State posters know they are wrong about their team, or coach is something I am going to have to stop doing.
I won't argue there. stAte is the champ and has a very talented football team. ESPN agrees with you. My only argurment is with the statement that there is a wide talent gap. I don't believe this year's game will be a blowout like last year. But if TROY doesn't show up to play it will be ugly.
(This post was last modified: 11-11-2017 09:23 AM by KSDTROJAN99.)
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(11-09-2017 08:20 PM)asuwon Wrote:  I'll be honest.

I told my son that South Alabama was the remaining game I feared the most.

Now you know why...
11-11-2017 08:46 PM
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