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Good read from FOSat
FOSat is a MAC blog and one of its columnists had some reasonable takes today:

https://medium.com/fosat/thoughts-on-wes...e99efbb993
11-02-2017 09:21 PM
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RE: Good read from FOSat
Good column.
11-02-2017 09:36 PM
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RE: Good read from FOSat
Very good. I hope everyone here reads it.

Some excellent points we haven’t even gotten into here.

Liked his take on Eskridge too.
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RE: Good read from FOSat
(11-02-2017 09:21 PM)wingsenforcer Wrote:  FOSat is a MAC blog and one of its columnists had some reasonable takes today:

https://medium.com/fosat/thoughts-on-wes...e99efbb993

Great find, Wings! Thank you!
11-03-2017 07:27 AM
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RE: Good read from FOSat
Good read, and pretty balanced. I think he took it easy on our coaches though.
11-03-2017 07:30 AM
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RE: Good read from FOSat
(11-02-2017 09:21 PM)wingsenforcer Wrote:  FOSat is a MAC blog and one of its columnists had some reasonable takes today:

https://medium.com/fosat/thoughts-on-wes...e99efbb993

Thank you for posting!

Why this coaching staff is seemingly opposed to throwing short passes to RB's is disturbing. It has been a factor in losses to the MSU rape apologists, Akron and the crude-&-crass-college-that-is-$20-million-in-debt-and-has-the-ugliest-uniforms-in-college-football up north.
11-03-2017 08:59 AM
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RE: Good read from FOSat
I'd like to think we could all patronize FOSat more. Looks like it is comprised of former Hustle Belt guys.
11-03-2017 10:11 AM
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RE: Good read from FOSat
About covers it. One thing I would add is Flacco leaving the team. Not sure what date he bolted but losing him earlier might have allowed Lester to get a 5th year transfer QB at least with experience. I'm also at a loss why the OC keeps calling for the bomb pass? We did that in the Akron game and it worked once I think? We have the worst QB depth in years. Nothing against Goddard he shouldn't even be playing his FR year he should be learning the system. When you lose these tangibles stick out. If we beat Akron and CMU we aren't picking fly poop from pepper. Tough season.
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11-03-2017 11:28 AM
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RE: Good read from FOSat
Good article. I believe we're all disappointed even dismayed with the losses and even close wins.

As posters have stated earlier and mentioned in the article, why doesn't the coaching staff hit short passes over the middle. Braverman made his living on the catch and run over the middle and Davis accumulated a lot of yardage in the same manner.

Over the middle passes don't require unlimited blocking, routes are short, and passes can be delivered quickly and accurately.

So much for my coaching suggestions.

Got Broncos.....win out.
11-03-2017 11:45 AM
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RE: Good read from FOSat
What concerns me most is not the grooming of new QBs or making sure the playcalling gels - the tangible stuff that can get polished up over time. The clash of styles between Lester & Co. and the Fleck-recruited players is the more difficult riddle to solve.

Indeed, every coaching change requires a corresponding culture change adjustment. But we can all agree that changing in/out of a Fleck regime can be a particular shock to the system. Part of the reason why we went 1-11 in 2013, with plenty of kids unable to adjust from the more gruff, old-school mannered Cubit, or leaving entirely (Zach Terrell himself was this close to bolting).

I still don't understand Lester's sideline demeanor, and how even a lower-key coaching staff can't keep players focused on a sideline during a nationally televised game against a hated rival. A 2 TD lead in the third quarter was by no means an empty-the-bench blowout. Regardless of how he is in private, not sure how effective calming grins and fist-pumps are in firing up a squad too used to a spastic man who oughta be the keynote speaker at motivational conventions. But hey, it could work on the Lester recruits.

So my greatest fear - especially if things continue to go south and we lose to NIU and Toledo - is a cultural disconnect between Lester and players. Is Spillane, and any others that Fleck might've texted a (*wink wink*) "Happy Birthday" to before KB sniffed it out, at full peace here? I have no insider aspect to the team, so maybe this is all nothing. But the armchair quarterbacks in us wonder.
11-03-2017 11:51 AM
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RE: Good read from FOSat
(11-03-2017 11:51 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  What concerns me most is not the grooming of new QBs or making sure the playcalling gels - the tangible stuff that can get polished up over time. The clash of styles between Lester & Co. and the Fleck-recruited players is the more difficult riddle to solve.

Indeed, every coaching change requires a corresponding culture change adjustment. But we can all agree that changing in/out of a Fleck regime can be a particular shock to the system. Part of the reason why we went 1-11 in 2013, with plenty of kids unable to adjust from the more gruff, old-school mannered Cubit, or leaving entirely (Zach Terrell himself was this close to bolting).

I still don't understand Lester's sideline demeanor, and how even a lower-key coaching staff can't keep players focused on a sideline during a nationally televised game against a hated rival. A 2 TD lead in the third quarter was by no means an empty-the-bench blowout. Regardless of how he is in private, not sure how effective calming grins and fist-pumps are in firing up a squad too used to a spastic man who oughta be the keynote speaker at motivational conventions. But hey, it could work on the Lester recruits.

So my greatest fear - especially if things continue to go south and we lose to NIU and Toledo - is a cultural disconnect between Lester and players. Is Spillane, and any others that Fleck might've texted a (*wink wink*) "Happy Birthday" to before KB sniffed it out, at full peace here? I have no insider aspect to the team, so maybe this is all nothing. But the armchair quarterbacks in us wonder.

This is a great point. And I think has a tremendous impact on what we are seeing. It's almost as if Lester is afraid to put his stamp on the program because as he has mentioned more than once, the cupboard was full when he came here, and a culture was in place. But I'm not sure that Lester even has a stamp to put on these guys. We just don't know. But I think there is a team in the future that can be successful with Tim Lester as coach.

We can see it in that Steven Clark's dad is a poster on here. They have a relationship with Lester and Daoust that goes back beyond just this season, so there is a tendency to defend the coaching staff. Plus, they on paper at least are going to provide the best recruiting class in 2018 that our program has ever seen. So there must be something to Lester and company that appeals to players.

My worry is, and will continue to be until I see different is that he doesn't have the ability to motivate and hold guys accountable.

The majority of our current players have no prior relationship with Lester or the most of the current staff. They are used to a high energy ball buster in PJ. That's who recruited them. That's who they practiced under. That's who would pull a running back out of the game and sit him on the bench for fumbling.

Lester has a different approach. One that it appears our current players recruited by PJ don't either seem to be completely on board with, or it just doesn't work for them. So maybe in 3 or 4 years as PJ's recruits and players leave, things will get better. I don't know.

All I do know is that what is going on isn't working. Jarvion Franklin's comments about chilling on the sideline were telling to me. Lester's style has not worked with a lot of the current players. Either way, no matter how upset we get as a fan base, he is going to be here for probably four years for sure.

At some point though, Tim Lester has got to be accountable for the product on the field. And we all need to stop making excuses for him.
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RE: Good read from FOSat
Wish Lester would at least lead his team out thru the tunnel. That is a bad optic picked up by many. I was talking about this to a friend at CMU game, it is almost if the sway and roll in the tunnel is a Fleck holdover and Lester wants nothing to do with it? I don't know but maybe we are just used to Captain Sidelines.
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RE: Good read from FOSat
I think the bigger mystery wasn't the loss to CMU, but to Akron. I have to say I was shocked at that result. Akron had every reason to fold under those conditions; an extra night on the road that wasn't planned for; huge disruption to their routine. I expected them to come totally flat.

What was going on with the Broncos during that game? What was the main reason for the loss?
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RE: Good read from FOSat
(11-03-2017 09:29 PM)ChipfanII Wrote:  I think the bigger mystery wasn't the loss to CMU, but to Akron. I have to say I was shocked at that result. Akron had every reason to fold under those conditions; an extra night on the road that wasn't planned for; huge disruption to their routine. I expected them to come totally flat.

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RE: Good read from FOSat
(11-03-2017 09:29 PM)ChipfanII Wrote:  I think the bigger mystery wasn't the loss to CMU, but to Akron. I have to say I was shocked at that result. Akron had every reason to fold under those conditions; an extra night on the road that wasn't planned for; huge disruption to their routine. I expected them to come totally flat.

What was going on with the Broncos during that game? What was the main reason for the loss?

There were 500 fans (maybe) in the stands on homecoming and no marching band. It was brutal, worse than a rocket football stadium experience. You could hear conversations from the sidelines. We opened the game up marching it down their throat, and then through a redzone interception that was returned about 70 yards.
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(11-04-2017 01:00 AM)RunningGame Wrote:  
(11-03-2017 09:29 PM)ChipfanII Wrote:  I think the bigger mystery wasn't the loss to CMU, but to Akron. I have to say I was shocked at that result. Akron had every reason to fold under those conditions; an extra night on the road that wasn't planned for; huge disruption to their routine. I expected them to come totally flat.

What was going on with the Broncos during that game? What was the main reason for the loss?

There were 500 fans (maybe) in the stands on homecoming and no marching band. It was brutal, worse than a rocket football stadium experience. You could hear conversations from the sidelines. We opened the game up marching it down their throat, and then through a redzone interception that was returned about 70 yards.

Yet Akron found a way.
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