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Difference in the game was turnovers.
We fumbled the ball on 2nd and goal where ANY kind of score would have likely sealed the game.

Franklin dropped the ball when he was hardly touched when we were driving in the 4th quarter, eating up the clock.

Receivers dropped balls that hit them in the hands when we needed to sustain drives.

Everybody is ready to lynch the current coaching staff, but those are execution failures in terrible playing conditions. That's on the players, not the coaches.

If we had Wassink starting last night we would have won. Had it not been raining all game, we likely would have won-even with Goddard. Conditions were awful and CMU handled them better than we did. I'm pretty darn disappointed, but there it is. Knute Rockne couldn't overcome player mistakes in appalling conditions.
11-02-2017 08:23 AM
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RE: Difference in the game was turnovers.
Nobody has mentioned about 20% of our starters are on the sidelines hurt. Including the highest recruited safety in MAC history, very good OL player, starting RB opening day, starting QB. No excuse but we don't have depth, we have youth. Goddard is our 3rd string QB, our 2nd string is carrying clipboards for the Scarlet Knights in Jersey. I'll agree the jury is out on Lester but I think the OC totally blew the 2nd half. If the calls had Lester blessing than so be it. The guy who took Flecks shoes was in for a ride no matter the win/lose record. This team could be 7-1 as easy as 5-4. Last years team had some close calls also, everyone forgets the championship was won in the last seconds as Ohio shut us down for three quarters. The Kent game becomes the most important game in recent Bronco history. The pressure is on. Interesting to see how this staff takes it.
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11-02-2017 08:34 AM
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RE: Difference in the game was turnovers.
(11-02-2017 08:34 AM)BuickBronco Wrote:  Nobody has mentioned about 20% of our starters are on the sidelines hurt. Including the highest recruited safety in MAC history, very good OL player, starting RB opening day, starting QB. No excuse but we don't have depth, we have youth. Goddard is our 3rd string QB, our 2nd string is carrying clipboards for the Scarlet Knights in Jersey. I'll agree the jury is out on Lester but I think the OC totally blew the 2nd half. If the calls had Lester blessing than so be it. The guy who took Flecks shoes was in for a ride no matter the win/lose record. This team could be 7-1 as easy as 5-4. Last years team had some close calls also, everyone forgets the championship was won in the last seconds as Ohio shut us down for three quarters. The Kent game becomes the most important game in recent Bronco history. The pressure is on. Interesting to see how this staff takes it.

I don't think the OC had much of a choice but to continue running the ball. Other than Goddard to Ernsberger, there just wasn't anything happening, at all, in the passing game.
11-02-2017 08:37 AM
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RE: Difference in the game was turnovers.
I wholeheartedly disagree with just about everything you just said.

CMU had turnovers just like we did. Also, can any of us really confidently say we would've won that game with Wassink? Not sure.

We lost because of poor game planning, poor execution. It all comes down to preparation and work. If our coaching staff isn't going to set an example , then why should we expect the players to.
11-02-2017 08:44 AM
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RE: Difference in the game was turnovers.
(11-02-2017 08:23 AM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  We fumbled the ball on 2nd and goal where ANY kind of score would have likely sealed the game.

Franklin dropped the ball when he was hardly touched when we were driving in the 4th quarter, eating up the clock.

Receivers dropped balls that hit them in the hands when we needed to sustain drives.

Everybody is ready to lynch the current coaching staff, but those are execution failures in terrible playing conditions. That's on the players, not the coaches.

If we had Wassink starting last night we would have won. Had it not been raining all game, we likely would have won-even with Goddard. Conditions were awful and CMU handled them better than we did. I'm pretty darn disappointed, but there it is. Knute Rockne couldn't overcome player mistakes in appalling conditions.

Costly turnovers have haunted us all year, in any playing conditions.

Receivers have been dropping balls that hit them squarely in the hands all year, also regardless of playing conditions.

If there’s a worse receiving corps anywhere in the country, (Donnie excluded) I would like to see it. It’s a shame too, as the group collectively has a lot of speed. Poor route running and absolute hands of stone though.

Regardless, this is not a disciplined football team and that’s what we miss most from the PJ Fleck era. Someone mentioned in another thread that there’s no one interested enough to hold the coaching staff’s feet to the fire. I’ll wager that one guy who is probably pretty frustrated is Robin Hook. Let’s see if future Bronco Reviews get a little bit edgier. I’m not holding my breath, as WMU produces them (no independence) but we’ll see.
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RE: Difference in the game was turnovers.
We turned the ball over because of lack of focus... for gosh sakes Kennoy hasn't had a bad snap all freaking year and we whiff one 5 yards from the endzone (not sure if that was a Goddard or Kennoy error.. but come on... )? Franklin drops the ball because a rain fairy distracted him... he wasn't even touched and it just popped out... hate to say it... but thats a lack of focus... This coaching staff seems to be having a hard time getting these guys prepare mentally for game time...

I think the only guy out there on defense right now grinding it out for an entire game is Steven Clark... I watched him take on double teams for most of the game as far as I could tell...freeing up Spillane to crush any run between the tackles... he seemed to be missing for some of the second half.... and when he wasn't out there it seemed like CMU could push us on the ground... Where is everyone else? I saw Bailey take himself out of more than a few plays on defense... our DB's are getting gashed on nearly any pass over 15 yards and our safeties look lost... other than Beal and Phillips our backend of our defense is not prepared for D1...

You can drone on about injuries, weather, etc... This team is not playing inspired football... they are flat, poorly coached and un-disciplined... I don't care if you have to trot out 22 true freshman... I expect those 22 freshman to play with some passion and discipline... right now even our upperclassmen are just going through the motions...
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RE: Difference in the game was turnovers.
(11-02-2017 09:00 AM)flushtheherd Wrote:  You can drone on about injuries, weather, etc... This team is not playing inspired football... they are flat, poorly coached and un-disciplined.

That's the crux of it all right there.
11-02-2017 09:02 AM
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RE: Difference in the game was turnovers.
Difference in the game was coaching. Period.

This team is unprepared to win.
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RE: Difference in the game was turnovers.
(11-02-2017 08:44 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  I wholeheartedly disagree with just about everything you just said.

CMU had turnovers just like we did. Also, can any of us really confidently say we would've won that game with Wassink? Not sure.

We lost because of poor game planning, poor execution. It all comes down to preparation and work. If our coaching staff isn't going to set an example , then why should we expect the players to.

Bingo. Not many people who have watched Bonomingo were suprised by the on side kick. THAT WAS A HUGE MISTAKE. not having several more guys up.

The dropped passes and a hike several feet over the quarterbacks head were the difference. PLUS HAVE TIME ADJUSTMENTS WHICH THEY MADE AND WE DIDN'T. IT WAS NOT A GOOD DAY TO BE A BRONCO. WE TOOK SEVERAL BIG STEPS BACK TO MEDIOCRACY . Next year could be even more painful as we loose a ton of experience that was wasted on this season.
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RE: Difference in the game was turnovers.
(11-02-2017 05:35 PM)MRBUTTONS Wrote:  Bingo. Not many people who have watched Bonomingo were suprised by the on side kick. THAT WAS A HUGE MISTAKE. not having several more guys up.

I think everyone was surprised by the onside kick because.... it wasnt' an onside kick.

It was a squib kick that ended up being a freak play. It was squibbed, hard, and happened to hit our lineman RIGHT in the chest and bounce back to them. They weren't trying to get the ball back, they were trying to keep it away from Phillips.

Our season in a nutshell so far.
11-03-2017 11:10 AM
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RE: Difference in the game was turnovers.
(11-03-2017 11:10 AM)Bronc33 Wrote:  I think everyone was surprised by the onside kick because.... it wasnt' an onside kick.

Our season in a nutshell so far.

Yep. A microcosm of how snake-bitten this season has been.
11-03-2017 11:16 AM
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RE: Difference in the game was turnovers.
(11-02-2017 08:37 AM)Brindlee2015 Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 08:34 AM)BuickBronco Wrote:  Nobody has mentioned about 20% of our starters are on the sidelines hurt. Including the highest recruited safety in MAC history, very good OL player, starting RB opening day, starting QB. No excuse but we don't have depth, we have youth. Goddard is our 3rd string QB, our 2nd string is carrying clipboards for the Scarlet Knights in Jersey. I'll agree the jury is out on Lester but I think the OC totally blew the 2nd half. If the calls had Lester blessing than so be it. The guy who took Flecks shoes was in for a ride no matter the win/lose record. This team could be 7-1 as easy as 5-4. Last years team had some close calls also, everyone forgets the championship was won in the last seconds as Ohio shut us down for three quarters. The Kent game becomes the most important game in recent Bronco history. The pressure is on. Interesting to see how this staff takes it.

I don't think the OC had much of a choice but to continue running the ball. Other than Goddard to Ernsberger, there just wasn't anything happening, at all, in the passing game.
A few short screen passes would have been nice at least...even a end around. We looked like ground hog day reruns the second half
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