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RE: Recruiting spotcheck
(12-10-2017 03:05 PM)Saint Greg Wrote: Yuge commit for Tech today! Maureese Wren (6-4 216) ATH out of Mesquite, Texas. Former Arkansas Commit. 4* and number 220 on the ESPN 300.
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/footb...reese-wren
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That's a fantastic pickup. Always nice to see a C-USA school land a prospect of this caliber. It seems La Tech offering him to play WR instead of OLB was key.
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RE: Recruiting spotcheck
As a UTEP fan I always poo pooed the idea that stars matter in recruiting since ours were almost exclusively 2 stars. Looks like stars matter at least to some degree. UTEP's 2 stars were usually lower 2's, that is 5.2 or so. A rating of 5.4 is a high 2 since a rating of 5.5 gets 3 stars. For the last 5 years UTEP has been at the bottom of C-USA recruiting when it comes to these ratings and we see the results. It may also be due to a coaching staff that did not or could not develop those players or due to the really old style offense of 3 yards and a cloud of bs.
It's going to be an interesting recruiting season for UTEP since our new staff is behind most of our conference brethren and we may not have any commits for the new early signing period. I wonder if there will be any players worth recruiting during the regular signing period in February.
I've noticed only 1 offer made so far by the new staff and that is a 3 star athlete already committed to Colorado. Our new HC is doing double duty of OC at K State and hiring staff at UTEP until after the K State bowl game.
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RE: Recruiting spotcheck
I think both FIU, and especially FAU, will shoot up the current rankings once the full signing classes are established. From what I've gathered, FAU is doing this weird silent commitment thing, which seemed to work out well for them last year. The big wild card this year, as others have mentioned, is the early signing period. With this being the first year, no one is really sure how many top recruits will still be available after the early period. It's quite possible many of the top programs only have very few spots left, so some C-USA programs might be able to snatch up guys during this time, assuming they have available spots themselves.
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RE: Recruiting spotcheck
I wish this staff recruited better. Love Littrell as a coach, but you can only out scheme opponents for so long. If we don't start getting more elite G5 talent, we're gonna be a flash in the pan rather than consistently successful.
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RE: Recruiting spotcheck
(12-11-2017 09:57 AM)Fish Wrote: I think both FIU, and especially FAU, will shoot up the current rankings once the full signing classes are established. From what I've gathered, FAU is doing this weird silent commitment thing, which seemed to work out well for them last year. The big wild card this year, as others have mentioned, is the early signing period. With this being the first year, no one is really sure how many top recruits will still be available after the early period. It's quite possible many of the top programs only have very few spots left, so some C-USA programs might be able to snatch up guys during this time, assuming they have available spots themselves.
It might be for a good reason. The lessons of the previous recruiting campaigns has been that the earlier we reported on impressive signees, the sooner they got poached by the bigger fish. It's almost reasonable to keep quiet about it.
One big benefit of this policy is that WE are now doing the poaching...
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va-eagle
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RE: Recruiting spotcheck
(12-11-2017 11:05 AM)goliath74 Wrote: (12-11-2017 09:57 AM)Fish Wrote: I think both FIU, and especially FAU, will shoot up the current rankings once the full signing classes are established. From what I've gathered, FAU is doing this weird silent commitment thing, which seemed to work out well for them last year. The big wild card this year, as others have mentioned, is the early signing period. With this being the first year, no one is really sure how many top recruits will still be available after the early period. It's quite possible many of the top programs only have very few spots left, so some C-USA programs might be able to snatch up guys during this time, assuming they have available spots themselves.
It might be for a good reason. The lessons of the previous recruiting campaigns has been that the earlier we reported on impressive signees, the sooner they got poached by the bigger fish. It's almost reasonable to keep quiet about it.
One big benefit of this policy is that WE are now doing the poaching...
Didn't seem to be some intentional silent thing last season. You hired a new coach at end of season and he put his staff together, which those signing classes normally grow late in the recruiting season.
There might of been a holdoff on recruits committing this year because they wanted to see if the HC stuck around.
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(12-11-2017 12:26 PM)va-eagle Wrote: (12-11-2017 11:05 AM)goliath74 Wrote: (12-11-2017 09:57 AM)Fish Wrote: I think both FIU, and especially FAU, will shoot up the current rankings once the full signing classes are established. From what I've gathered, FAU is doing this weird silent commitment thing, which seemed to work out well for them last year. The big wild card this year, as others have mentioned, is the early signing period. With this being the first year, no one is really sure how many top recruits will still be available after the early period. It's quite possible many of the top programs only have very few spots left, so some C-USA programs might be able to snatch up guys during this time, assuming they have available spots themselves.
It might be for a good reason. The lessons of the previous recruiting campaigns has been that the earlier we reported on impressive signees, the sooner they got poached by the bigger fish. It's almost reasonable to keep quiet about it.
One big benefit of this policy is that WE are now doing the poaching...
Didn't seem to be some intentional silent thing last season. You hired a new coach at end of season and he put his staff together, which those signing classes normally grow late in the recruiting season.
There might of been a holdoff on recruits committing this year because they wanted to see if the HC stuck around.
Actually, there is no hold off. The new staff seems to be interested more in JC recruits and in poaching from other schools. Just over the last two week-ends and even going back to the Shula Bowl, it seems, FAU had entertained a dozen or so top-rated commits from other schools and JC players.
I, personally, do not like poaching, as it seems to perpetuate the P5/G5 divide, but if nothing is done against it, why not engage in it?
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RE: Recruiting spotcheck
(12-11-2017 02:26 PM)goliath74 Wrote: (12-11-2017 12:26 PM)va-eagle Wrote: (12-11-2017 11:05 AM)goliath74 Wrote: (12-11-2017 09:57 AM)Fish Wrote: I think both FIU, and especially FAU, will shoot up the current rankings once the full signing classes are established. From what I've gathered, FAU is doing this weird silent commitment thing, which seemed to work out well for them last year. The big wild card this year, as others have mentioned, is the early signing period. With this being the first year, no one is really sure how many top recruits will still be available after the early period. It's quite possible many of the top programs only have very few spots left, so some C-USA programs might be able to snatch up guys during this time, assuming they have available spots themselves.
It might be for a good reason. The lessons of the previous recruiting campaigns has been that the earlier we reported on impressive signees, the sooner they got poached by the bigger fish. It's almost reasonable to keep quiet about it.
One big benefit of this policy is that WE are now doing the poaching...
Didn't seem to be some intentional silent thing last season. You hired a new coach at end of season and he put his staff together, which those signing classes normally grow late in the recruiting season.
There might of been a holdoff on recruits committing this year because they wanted to see if the HC stuck around.
Actually, there is no hold off. The new staff seems to be interested more in JC recruits and in poaching from other schools. Just over the last two week-ends and even going back to the Shula Bowl, it seems, FAU had entertained a dozen or so top-rated commits from other schools and JC players.
I, personally, do not like poaching, as it seems to perpetuate the P5/G5 divide, but if nothing is done against it, why not engage in it?
JuCos are risky in terms of keeping your APR intact.
Also, some interesting characters.
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RE: Recruiting spotcheck
(10-25-2017 11:56 AM)va-eagle Wrote: Charlotte [9 commits, avg 0.56. doesn't appear to be recruiting FBS caliber kids]
This is how old boy at UAB should have killed their program. Retain a 1-11 coach and tell your angry fans the incompetent AD is more important than winning or selling tickets.
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RE: Recruiting spotcheck
(12-11-2017 07:13 AM)goliath74 Wrote: We (FAU) just doubled our commitments from 1 to 2. We poached a 3 star WR from somebody.
We poached him from Miss State and we lost a QB to Louisville. Teddy Bridgewater was in Miami doing his best to recruit from the Vikings bench. I heard they’re changing their name to the University of Miami at Loiusville.
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RE: Recruiting spotcheck
COACHING MATTERS
If I had to guess I would say most of Western's best players over the previous 6 seasons were 2 star recruits
A lot of these kids that are 3 star are just bigger and faster than the kids they go up against in high school. I'm not saying being bigger, stronger, faster, isn't something you should ignore. But once they get in college how hard you work is going to be a deciding factor.
One other thing...some of this 3 and 4 star players are so use to being able to get by on being bigger, stronger, faster. They never learn how to read a offense (in they are on defense. Once you get to college offensives are not as simple...
you have to be able to read motion and blocking patterns
TEACHING MATTERS
SYSTEM MATTERS
Not one of us are recruiting to a level that makes us head and shoulders better just on talent. A good coach fill spots based off his system. He also is able to see the upside to players and teach.
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RE: Recruiting spotcheck
(12-11-2017 10:23 PM)Seminowl Wrote: (12-11-2017 07:13 AM)goliath74 Wrote: We (FAU) just doubled our commitments from 1 to 2. We poached a 3 star WR from somebody.
We poached him from Miss State and we lost a QB to Louisville. Teddy Bridgewater was in Miami doing his best to recruit from the Vikings bench. I heard they’re changing their name to the University of Miami at Loiusville.
The Vikings haven't played Miami this season.
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(12-12-2017 12:00 AM)Saint Greg Wrote: (12-11-2017 10:23 PM)Seminowl Wrote: (12-11-2017 07:13 AM)goliath74 Wrote: We (FAU) just doubled our commitments from 1 to 2. We poached a 3 star WR from somebody.
We poached him from Miss State and we lost a QB to Louisville. Teddy Bridgewater was in Miami doing his best to recruit from the Vikings bench. I heard they’re changing their name to the University of Miami at Loiusville.
The Vikings haven't played Miami this season.
The Game #4 of preseason
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(12-12-2017 12:04 AM)goliath74 Wrote: (12-12-2017 12:00 AM)Saint Greg Wrote: (12-11-2017 10:23 PM)Seminowl Wrote: (12-11-2017 07:13 AM)goliath74 Wrote: We (FAU) just doubled our commitments from 1 to 2. We poached a 3 star WR from somebody.
We poached him from Miss State and we lost a QB to Louisville. Teddy Bridgewater was in Miami doing his best to recruit from the Vikings bench. I heard they’re changing their name to the University of Miami at Loiusville.
The Vikings haven't played Miami this season.
The Game #4 of preseason
That was in Minnesota
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RE: Recruiting spotcheck
The Miss JC system is doing a great job and being targeted by a lot of schools for recruits.
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(12-12-2017 07:44 AM)goliath74 Wrote: And now we seem to have 5 (according to ESPN and 24/7). We have 4 according to Rivals.com
Rivals is awful. They still have Billy Jospeh committed to you guys (didn't he decommit in March?) and claim Shaun Peterson is committed to FAU, when in reality, he committed to FIU. Don't worry, Rivals isn't much better for FIU. I find 247 updates the most frequently, with the most accurate content.
Btw, I see FAU is bringing on some studs. They will easily have the top class in C-USA if they keep this up.
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