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(10-24-2017 01:10 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  HC's
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Grass
Bohannon
Keeler
Chadwell*

Coord
Pry
Jasper
Davis

I bet the HC's are at the top of TK's list. I dont think after hearing the man speak he is going to risk being fired going with an unproven coordinator or God forbid a coach that had only two years of college experience as a position coach. He goes that route and it goes south there is no way he will not get fired. He goes with a HC or P5 coordinator with resume's of success the fans cant really complain as all will likely agree with the hire unlike with Tyson who nobody knew who the hell he was or approved of the hire.

No Brent Thompson from The Citsdel. Houston will be gone after this year from JMU but I don't think it will be to GA Southern. If GA Southern really wants to keep the option in play your 2 best realistic options I think are Thompson or Bohannon.

(10-25-2017 12:28 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  I bet Tony Gibson, WVUs DC reaches out to TK again for the job

I bet he doesn't. Ive known Tony Gibson since I was in middle school. When I was in school in Boone Co WV (Scott High) he was the Head Coach of one of the other 2 HS (Van High). He will stay on staff at WVU until he is either let go or what he has always dreamed for promoted to HC at WVU.
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(10-25-2017 01:25 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  I bet he doesn't. Ive known Tony Gibson since I was in middle school. When I was in school in Boone Co WV (Scott High) he was the Head Coach of one of the other 2 HS (Van High). He will stay on staff at WVU until he is either let go or what he has always dreamed for promoted to HC at WVU.

But he and fellow WVU boosters tried the last time we were trying to hire a head coach back in Dec 2014.

You had WVU Boosters that wanted to protect Tony from the possibility of Dana Holgorsen being fired and being tossed out with the rest of the staff. They wanted to ensure that his bid to becoming HC at WVU was not damaged if Dana was fired. At the end of 2015.. donors were becoming impatient with Dana... its possible 2016 might have changed that around.. which is why I don't expect Tony Gibson to pop up this time around.
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RE: 2017 GS Coaching Search Master Thread
(10-25-2017 01:25 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(10-24-2017 01:10 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  HC's
Houston
Grass
Bohannon
Keeler
Chadwell*

Coord
Pry
Jasper
Davis

I bet the HC's are at the top of TK's list. I dont think after hearing the man speak he is going to risk being fired going with an unproven coordinator or God forbid a coach that had only two years of college experience as a position coach. He goes that route and it goes south there is no way he will not get fired. He goes with a HC or P5 coordinator with resume's of success the fans cant really complain as all will likely agree with the hire unlike with Tyson who nobody knew who the hell he was or approved of the hire.

No Brent Thompson from The Citsdel. Houston will be gone after this year from JMU but I don't think it will be to GA Southern. If GA Southern really wants to keep the option in play your 2 best realistic options I think are Thompson or Bohannon.

(10-25-2017 12:28 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  I bet Tony Gibson, WVUs DC reaches out to TK again for the job

I bet he doesn't. Ive known Tony Gibson since I was in middle school. When I was in school in Boone Co WV (Scott High) he was the Head Coach of one of the other 2 HS (Van High). He will stay on staff at WVU until he is either let go or what he has always dreamed for promoted to HC at WVU.

The under center option is not a qualification for a coach nor has it been, we have not run the flex GT / Navy option with the last two coaching staffs....

Thompson starting to slide back without Houston in year two...this is why I dont want to go with a coord under a sucessfull coach this time around unless you know the coach is not calling the plays or dictating the offense. If you go with a HC you likely get the entire or most of the staff coming from the FCS and it is not an issue. Houston has proven he can win without Thompson and Thompson just dropped two straight.

Tony Gibson absolutely will leave WVU because I know for a fact he basically begged for the job last time. He could not even get a call back last time though, I doubt he gets a call back this time. Something TK or on the board does not like about him without a doubt.
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RE: 2017 GS Coaching Search Master Thread
(10-25-2017 01:25 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(10-24-2017 01:10 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  HC's
Houston
Grass
Bohannon
Keeler
Chadwell*

Coord
Pry
Jasper
Davis

I bet the HC's are at the top of TK's list. I dont think after hearing the man speak he is going to risk being fired going with an unproven coordinator or God forbid a coach that had only two years of college experience as a position coach. He goes that route and it goes south there is no way he will not get fired. He goes with a HC or P5 coordinator with resume's of success the fans cant really complain as all will likely agree with the hire unlike with Tyson who nobody knew who the hell he was or approved of the hire.

No Brent Thompson from The Citsdel. Houston will be gone after this year from JMU but I don't think it will be to GA Southern. If GA Southern really wants to keep the option in play your 2 best realistic options I think are Thompson or Bohannon.

(10-25-2017 12:28 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  I bet Tony Gibson, WVUs DC reaches out to TK again for the job

I bet he doesn't. Ive known Tony Gibson since I was in middle school. When I was in school in Boone Co WV (Scott High) he was the Head Coach of one of the other 2 HS (Van High). He will stay on staff at WVU until he is either let go or what he has always dreamed for promoted to HC at WVU.

You've known him since middle school, but do you still talk to him?

You say he will stay there til he is let go, but yet he tried badly to get a hold of TK last time around.
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(10-25-2017 01:37 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  
(10-25-2017 01:25 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  I bet he doesn't. Ive known Tony Gibson since I was in middle school. When I was in school in Boone Co WV (Scott High) he was the Head Coach of one of the other 2 HS (Van High). He will stay on staff at WVU until he is either let go or what he has always dreamed for promoted to HC at WVU.

But he and fellow WVU boosters tried the last time we were trying to hire a head coach back in Dec 2014.

You had WVU Boosters that wanted to protect Tony from the possibility of Dana Holgorsen being fired and being tossed out with the rest of the staff. They wanted to ensure that his bid to becoming HC at WVU was not damaged if Dana was fired. At the end of 2015.. donors were becoming impatient with Dana... its possible 2016 might have changed that around.. which is why I don't expect Tony Gibson to pop up this time around.

The Who looks good right now at 5-2, but they well start to fall off a cliff soon, starting this weekend, their remaining schedule is:

Oklahoma State
Iowa State
at Kansas State
Texas
at Oklahoma

My guess is they end up 6-6 or 7-5. They barely escaped Waco with a 38-36 win (Baylor failed 2 pt conversion). After being up 38-13 after 3QTRS.

Holgerson will start to feel the heat again in Morgantown. The thing is most who support the Who don't realize unless they have a big senior like last year they will be a 6-7 win team in the B12.
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Honest questions here, GS fans this is not an attempt to troll. I'd like your thoughts. For the record, I don't like to see GS down. I don't think it's good for the conference or the rivalry. With that said here it goes:

1) With the coaching turnover over the last several years, with I think three coaches fired or pretty much forced to resign by external pressure, how attractive is this job really? What would you say to a coach that asks what kind of commitment he is going to expect from the fans and the school?

2) How do you feel the contract lawsuit will be viewed by potential candidates?

3) Will GS be able to demonstrate financial strength to a potential coach and not play 2-3 money games per year? I think one of the flaws with GS right now is the home game schedule... Got to have 6 home games.

4) Does GS expect to return to the TO? With a P5 in-state school (GT) running a similar offense, along with service academies (run by former GS coaches) does that present recruiting problems for GS? Looking in from the outside, I'd have to think it does. It also looks like CCU might be employing a version of this as well... So more regional competition for a certain type of ball player.
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(10-26-2017 08:46 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  Honest questions here, GS fans this is not an attempt to troll. I'd like your thoughts. For the record, I don't like to see GS down. I don't think it's good for the conference or the rivalry. With that said here it goes:

1) With the coaching turnover over the last several years, with I think three coaches fired or pretty much forced to resign by external pressure, how attractive is this job really? What would you say to a coach that asks what kind of commitment he is going to expect from the fans and the school?

2) How do you feel the contract lawsuit will be viewed by potential candidates?

3) Will GS be able to demonstrate financial strength to a potential coach and not play 2-3 money games per year? I think one of the flaws with GS right now is the home game schedule... Got to have 6 home games.

4) Does GS expect to return to the TO? With a P5 in-state school (GT) running a similar offense, along with service academies (run by former GS coaches) does that present recruiting problems for GS? Looking in from the outside, I'd have to think it does. It also looks like CCU might be employing a version of this as well... So more regional competition for a certain type of ball player.

I believe our coaching job is still pretty attractive. A storied program, large fan base, financially stable compared to how we used to be, fertile recruiting area with little instate competition, and a great town to live in. Lots of opportunity here to make a name for oneself. I’d even say that when the team is firing on all cylinders and competing for conference titles, it’s one of the top 10 G5 coaching jobs and that’s not just the homer in me.

I think the lawsuit, while embarrassing, won’t play much of a factor in hiring a new staff. It will hopefully be resolved before then.

We will have 6 Home games the next two seasons I believe. Regardless playing money games IS one of the reasons we’ve become financially stable. I don’t see how not playing P5 schools is demonstrating financial strength.

Our AD has said that he isn’t looking for a coach that runs an option offense and that running the TO is not a prerequisite for the job. We haven’t run the TO since 2013. I would be in favor of running whatever offense gets us to win consistently however I would say that we have less competition recruiting option players than prostyle players. Only a few teams run an option compared to a majority than have other offenses. Everybody and their mother is going after that QB with the good arm but only a few people are going after that dual-threat QB that Georgia Southern is usually recruiting.
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Would you GS guys accept a Gus Malzahn offense? Has Rhett Lashlee come up? Or Walt Bell?
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I thought hiring a coordinator without HC experience was a mistake last time around. I hope TK doesn't repeat that and we go after a successful FCS head man that can bring pretty much his entire staff. Maybe then we can hit the ground running next season.
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(10-26-2017 08:46 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  Honest questions here, GS fans this is not an attempt to troll. I'd like your thoughts. For the record, I don't like to see GS down. I don't think it's good for the conference or the rivalry. With that said here it goes:

1) With the coaching turnover over the last several years, with I think three coaches fired or pretty much forced to resign by external pressure, how attractive is this job really? What would you say to a coach that asks what kind of commitment he is going to expect from the fans and the school?

2) How do you feel the contract lawsuit will be viewed by potential candidates?

3) Will GS be able to demonstrate financial strength to a potential coach and not play 2-3 money games per year? I think one of the flaws with GS right now is the home game schedule... Got to have 6 home games.

4) Does GS expect to return to the TO? With a P5 in-state school (GT) running a similar offense, along with service academies (run by former GS coaches) does that present recruiting problems for GS? Looking in from the outside, I'd have to think it does. It also looks like CCU might be employing a version of this as well... So more regional competition for a certain type of ball player.

1. The coaching turnover isn't just guys getting fired. Only 3 of the last 7 coaches were fired. Three others went on to a higher-paying job and one left voluntarily after one season. Of the 3 guys that were fired, one got 4 seasons, one got 3 seasons (and was basically fired by the president who is longer here), and Tyson Summers was frankly so terrible I don't think getting rid of him is going to frighten anyone away.

2. Honestly, that depends on who the guilty party is and what the story is. The BoR, Athletic Foundation, the athletic director, and Tyson Summers are all defendants.

3. I don't think we need multiple money games a year, but I hope we get adding them on as long as we're not getting better home-and-home deals. I don't think they're really going to keep coaches away, either. BTW, the new coach is going to have 3 consecutive years of at least 6 home games.

4. I want either a guy who can build a system around the roster or a TO coach. If you want to see the well-laid-out reasoning why running the option is a good idea, see the "Who will Coach at Georgia Southern next year" thread. I know we can win with any offense, but I will argue with anyone that running that offense gives us an advantage now and historically.
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(10-26-2017 09:44 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  Would you GS guys accept a Gus Malzahn offense? Has Rhett Lashlee come up? Or Walt Bell?

Lashlee came up last time and Walt Bell is a name I’ve heard of more recently
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(10-26-2017 09:44 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  Would you GS guys accept a Gus Malzahn offense? Has Rhett Lashlee come up? Or Walt Bell?

I don't know about my compatriots but I would. It worked for y'all. Rhett Lashlee did come up when Fritz left and it seemed like Malzahn was shopping him around. I don't know if he interviewed though.

(10-26-2017 10:22 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  I thought hiring a coordinator without HC experience was a mistake last time around. I hope TK doesn't repeat that and we go after a successful FCS head man that can bring pretty much his entire staff. Maybe then we can hit the ground running next season.

We have hired two existing head coach in program history. One was Fritz and the other Hatcher. The rest were all coordinators or position coaches. Based on that, I'm not sure that an existing HC will be an indicator of success at GS.

That being said, and especially with the new recruiting periods, I would prefer that myself.
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Kenny Edenfield would a be a great hire.

Eagles, please hire Kenny Edenfield....please.
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stAte folks, do you know if Buster Faulkner's recruiting territory is Georgia? I don't know much about him, doubt that I would want him for our HC, just noticed a bunch of his most recent Twitter follows are HS athletes and various other pages from Georgia; thought he might be putting out feelers for our job, or feelers have been extended towards him possibly.
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(10-26-2017 08:46 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  Honest questions here, GS fans this is not an attempt to troll. I'd like your thoughts. For the record, I don't like to see GS down. I don't think it's good for the conference or the rivalry. With that said here it goes:

1) With the coaching turnover over the last several years, with I think three coaches fired or pretty much forced to resign by external pressure, how attractive is this job really? What would you say to a coach that asks what kind of commitment he is going to expect from the fans and the school?

2) How do you feel the contract lawsuit will be viewed by potential candidates?

3) Will GS be able to demonstrate financial strength to a potential coach and not play 2-3 money games per year? I think one of the flaws with GS right now is the home game schedule... Got to have 6 home games.

4) Does GS expect to return to the TO? With a P5 in-state school (GT) running a similar offense, along with service academies (run by former GS coaches) does that present recruiting problems for GS? Looking in from the outside, I'd have to think it does. It also looks like CCU might be employing a version of this as well... So more regional competition for a certain type of ball player.

1. Coordinators get axed all the time and I dont think any coach raises and eyebrow about and 5-7 then 0-6 coach getting canned when they took over a winning program. It is not like we fired people going 6-6 or even 7-5. All those coaches would still be here had we went to a bowl and won it.

2. Not well but the did sign the contracts and crapped the bed.

3. Money is not a problem according to our AD. Also 7000 +/- Armstrong students fees will be headed our way soon. The pay $190 twice a year that is 2.6M increase without lifting a finger.

4. No but I would imagine it will be in the option based family, spread, zone read, pistol etc as that is who we have on the team. We are built for run first.

There is NEVER a recruiting problem in the state of GA ever no matter what offense you run. You just have to be able to recruit. Elliot just landed GaSt best class Tyson wet the bed last year was horrible in recruiting and still landed a top 5 class in the conference. Fritz with a two year old FBS team out recruiting five or six P5 teams in 2016. Plus we draw well from FLA and SC. You really cant have a better location for recruiting. No matter what offense you run you will be competing with a ton of other teams not just local ones. If not GT than Vandy or MTSU or Troy, if not KSU than GaSt that is a non issue. Plenty of teams run an option based offense in the state and region.
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(10-26-2017 08:46 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  Honest questions here, GS fans this is not an attempt to troll. I'd like your thoughts. For the record, I don't like to see GS down. I don't think it's good for the conference or the rivalry. With that said here it goes:

1) With the coaching turnover over the last several years, with I think three coaches fired or pretty much forced to resign by external pressure, how attractive is this job really? What would you say to a coach that asks what kind of commitment he is going to expect from the fans and the school?

2) How do you feel the contract lawsuit will be viewed by potential candidates?

3) Will GS be able to demonstrate financial strength to a potential coach and not play 2-3 money games per year? I think one of the flaws with GS right now is the home game schedule... Got to have 6 home games.

4) Does GS expect to return to the TO? With a P5 in-state school (GT) running a similar offense, along with service academies (run by former GS coaches) does that present recruiting problems for GS? Looking in from the outside, I'd have to think it does. It also looks like CCU might be employing a version of this as well... So more regional competition for a certain type of ball player.

1. I won't repeat what others have stated but will say this ......... the coaches who have succeeded at Southern the past 20 years are now HC at Georgia Tech, Tulane, and Army! That tells the new coach for 2018 this ..... succeed at SOUTHERN and you'll move on to 1 million dollar a year employment and advance your careers!

2. It's a black eye on the program, but happened during its darkest period as well. Southern learned from their 22 month mistake!

3. The base would love to have a P5 game in the future, but I think they'd be happy returning to their winning tradition instead at this point. Playing Houston in a few yrs should get the base excited at least.

4. Georgia Southern Alum has more HEAD COACHES in the state of Georgia than any University in the country. With the state of Georgia being a top 5 recruiting bed in the country, there isn't lack of talent. Georgia Tech typically recruits out of state players because they offer a particular degree that's desired and not many football schools offer it.

Personally, I think Georgia Southern identity in RUNNING THE FOOTBALL and SMASH MOUTH style of play. If we are to continue the TO I'm cool with it, but more concerned with remaining a run first football team. That's my first priority! I enjoy watching the option and have no complaints if Southern goes back to it as well.
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I think GS should hold out for Larry Fedora...he should be available pretty soon.:pbjtime:quote]

No... I want him to stay at unc-cheat a few more years.

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(10-24-2017 12:28 PM)asuwon Wrote:  Is Tim Horton being considered?

http://www.auburntigers.com/sports/m-foo...97766.html
Tim would be an outstanding choice, but I'm hoping he's still around when our job comes open. I also told him if he took the job I'd never speak to him again!?

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(10-26-2017 11:13 AM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  stAte folks, do you know if Buster Faulkner's recruiting territory is Georgia? I don't know much about him, doubt that I would want him for our HC, just noticed a bunch of his most recent Twitter follows are HS athletes and various other pages from Georgia; thought he might be putting out feelers for our job, or feelers have been extended towards him possibly.

Ok GS....stop the search. This is your guy. Matter of fact we could probably have him there by Saturday....or earlier.
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