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RE: 2017 GS Coaching Search Master Thread
Well, it was one game, but I saw Chuck South play NDSU and I saw a disciplined team with a good game plan.
10-24-2017 05:02 PM
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RE: 2017 GS Coaching Search Master Thread
(10-24-2017 04:50 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(10-24-2017 04:34 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  
(10-24-2017 04:16 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(10-24-2017 04:10 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(10-24-2017 03:36 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  Please hire Chadwell.

If you take that guy off our hands, you'll become my second favorite Sun belt program behind my Chants.

#MakeChadwellAnEagle

Why don't you guys like him? It's not his fault you have no QB and have no defense.

Many of "us" do like him.

I speak only for myself. But there are others that think like me. Some didn't want him hired in the first place because he had shown a propensity for fostering an undisciplined spirit in the team.

In my opinion, we've seen that come home to roost in his very first year as our interim HC. It isn't about the crappy QB play. It's about the constant boneheaded penalties, mental errors, and personal fouls that we've seen this year. Furthermore, the guy makes some calls during the game that are questionable to say the very least. An example that comes to mind immediately is him calling a 2 pt conversation at ULM when the math made no sense at all.

FURTHERMORE, the vast majority of us don't understand his complete obstinance the first half of the year in playing Keane who most of the time looked like our 2nd or 3rd best QB on the roster.

Yes, our QB is a joke. No, that's not Chadwell's fault. But the personal fouls, the stupid penalties from lack of discipline, the questionable in game decisions, and the inability to make the right call and abandon Keane early in the season are all problems that rest on Chadwell's shoulders.

You'll find loud supporters of Chadwell. I'm sure at least one will angrily respond here because he can't handle an opposing opinion. But there is a contingent of us that questioned the hire at the outset, and now we question it even more.

Keep in mind, other schools (supposedly including GS) didn't want to touch this guy with a 10 foot pole. It gives reason for pause.

A you sure Matthews isn't a part of that lack of discipline? That was a hallmark of this 14 years at JMU, especially the personal fouls.


Don't you even get me started on Mickey matthews.

I lost my **** when we hired him and have been begging and pleading for him to be fired for years.

He's the architect of our God awful defense.

Anway. Not trying to derail the thread. Just wanted to say....

#MakeChadwellAnEagle

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RE: 2017 GS Coaching Search Master Thread
Jamey Chadwell has to hide for a couple of more years before getting a head coaching gig again, and when that happens unless a G5 is desperate, he'll head back to FCS.
Chattanooga wanted him but backed off. He initially interviewed to be ETSU's first coach (he played there, grew up in the region), didn't get the gig. He's safely tucked away on a staff until he can come back out again.
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KSU HC Brian Bohannon would be excellent for GS.
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(10-24-2017 05:18 PM)Fanther Wrote:  KSU HC Brian Bohannon would be excellent for GS.

He’s definitely a front runner in the fans’ eyes
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(10-24-2017 05:02 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Well, it was one game, but I saw Chuck South play NDSU and I saw a disciplined team with a good game plan.

I have watched several Chuck South games and saw well coached disciplined teams.

Listen this is not the Big South and he had the better team in the Big South soooo. CCU was not App or GS moving up I predicted pain and got shouted down a bit on here for it. And no I did not predict sunshine and roses for GS I think I expected at best 7-5 our first year and predicted up and down results until year four...had it backwards but of course you dont expect a Tyson Summers to ever be hired at the FCS level much less the FBS level.

This is the way it goes for most move ups what GS did early on and what App is doing now is rare.

I dont have Chadwell high because I dont see him leaving the team high and dry and our AD can not have any risk in this hire. You guys struggling is ammo for his haters.
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(10-24-2017 05:16 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  Jamey Chadwell has to hide for a couple of more years before getting a head coaching gig again, and when that happens unless a G5 is desperate, he'll head back to FCS.
Chattanooga wanted him but backed off. He initially interviewed to be ETSU's first coach (he played there, grew up in the region), didn't get the gig. He's safely tucked away on a staff until he can come back out again.

Unfounded rumors and UTC got one of the most successful DIV II coaches available. Another rumor is he had the GS job from the AD standpoint but the liberal interim Pres found him to conservative in his views and vetoed the hire.
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(10-24-2017 05:28 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(10-24-2017 05:18 PM)Fanther Wrote:  KSU HC Brian Bohannon would be excellent for GS.

He’s definitely a front runner in the fans’ eyes

Because some fans only think the under center flex type option is the only way we can win....they must have not been fans when Fritz was here. His results are OK but the conference is a joke and so has KSU's OOC opponents. I am holding judgement to see if he makes the playoffs and finally plays some decent competition.
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(10-24-2017 05:38 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  
(10-24-2017 05:02 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Well, it was one game, but I saw Chuck South play NDSU and I saw a disciplined team with a good game plan.

I have watched several Chuck South games and saw well coached disciplined teams.

Listen this is not the Big South and he had the better team in the Big South soooo. CCU was not App or GS moving up I predicted pain and got shouted down a bit on here for it. And no I did not predict sunshine and roses for GS I think I expected at best 7-5 our first year and predicted up and down results until year four...had it backwards but of course you dont expect a Tyson Summers to ever be hired at the FCS level much less the FBS level.

This is the way it goes for most move ups what GS did early on and what App is doing now is rare.

I dont have Chadwell high because I dont see him leaving the team high and dry and our AD can not have any risk in this hire. You guys struggling is ammo for his haters.

I can't tell if this is in support of Chadwell or not. I do know that Portal High School's stadium is nicer than Chuck South's. It's a program that probably shouldn't be in DI. It's really pretty impressive to win the way he has there.
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(10-24-2017 06:12 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(10-24-2017 05:38 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  
(10-24-2017 05:02 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Well, it was one game, but I saw Chuck South play NDSU and I saw a disciplined team with a good game plan.

I have watched several Chuck South games and saw well coached disciplined teams.

Listen this is not the Big South and he had the better team in the Big South soooo. CCU was not App or GS moving up I predicted pain and got shouted down a bit on here for it. And no I did not predict sunshine and roses for GS I think I expected at best 7-5 our first year and predicted up and down results until year four...had it backwards but of course you dont expect a Tyson Summers to ever be hired at the FCS level much less the FBS level.

This is the way it goes for most move ups what GS did early on and what App is doing now is rare.

I dont have Chadwell high because I dont see him leaving the team high and dry and our AD can not have any risk in this hire. You guys struggling is ammo for his haters.

I can't tell if this is in support of Chadwell or not. I do know that Portal High School's stadium is nicer than Chuck South's. It's a program that probably shouldn't be in DI. It's really pretty impressive to win the way he has there.

Very good points.

I gave Chadwell a hard time about some things but to be fair I think CSU is a dumpster fire more than I realized then. I don’t know what the deal was but Chadwell lost the support of the admin. Many reporters claimed the admin overreacted to the bookstore scandal and social media post of an assistant coach. They also directly contradicted him when he said that they would only play the Citadel in a home and home but then they schedule all away games at Citade.

He did some bush league stuff like taking a broom to the Citadel’s field. But he could motivate his players. He also clearly out coached our coaches in the 3 wins they had over us in 4 years. But something was clearly up at CSU based on player posts and even the food protests they have now. After Chadwell left only 1 coach remained with the program - they couldn’t wait to get out of there.

I was really surprised that he didn’t get a HC job at GS or the number of FCS schools.

He has gotten a bit of a raw deal at Coastal. New system, no QB, unexpectedly made interim HC at the last minute, and the new guy to an established staff. It isn’t fair to judge him on this year. He needs a little time to implement his system. We need time to recruit more FBS level guys. We should have a complete staff and not a HC on a medical sabbatical.

I do think Chadwell would be more successful anywhere had he been able to bring his entire staff.
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(10-24-2017 06:12 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(10-24-2017 05:38 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  
(10-24-2017 05:02 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Well, it was one game, but I saw Chuck South play NDSU and I saw a disciplined team with a good game plan.

I have watched several Chuck South games and saw well coached disciplined teams.

Listen this is not the Big South and he had the better team in the Big South soooo. CCU was not App or GS moving up I predicted pain and got shouted down a bit on here for it. And no I did not predict sunshine and roses for GS I think I expected at best 7-5 our first year and predicted up and down results until year four...had it backwards but of course you dont expect a Tyson Summers to ever be hired at the FCS level much less the FBS level.

This is the way it goes for most move ups what GS did early on and what App is doing now is rare.

I dont have Chadwell high because I dont see him leaving the team high and dry and our AD can not have any risk in this hire. You guys struggling is ammo for his haters.

I can't tell if this is in support of Chadwell or not. I do know that Portal High School's stadium is nicer than Chuck South's. It's a program that probably shouldn't be in DI. It's really pretty impressive to win the way he has there.

I am in favor Chadwell and what he did at Chuck South is nothing short of amazing. They scream average DIV II in every way and he went head to head with NDSU. It is a small school probably led by small minds and no resources. He was a better candidate when he had his whole staff together. Now who knows where they are or if they would come with him.
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(10-24-2017 12:28 PM)asuwon Wrote:  Is Tim Horton being considered?

http://www.auburntigers.com/sports/m-foo...97766.html
Tim would be an outstanding choice, but I'm hoping he's still around when our job comes open. I also told him if he took the job I'd never speak to him again!😀

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I think GS should hold out for Larry Fedora...he should be available pretty soon.02-13-banana
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(10-24-2017 02:32 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  
(10-24-2017 12:28 PM)asuwon Wrote:  Is Tim Horton being considered?

I've never eaten there before but would certainly consider it.




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(10-24-2017 01:00 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  No thanks on Ruse. Willie Fritz is the architect of that offense that we ran, and he apparently had no interest in taking over after Fritz left.

In my experience there are guys who have no interest because they don't want the job and guys who have no interest because they know they won't get the job.

If Ruse saw the handwriting that he wasn't going to be the guy then he's not going to do anything to tie his name to the job because the search he might have a shot at will wonder why he was passed over.

No idea if that was the situation with Ruse, but I've certainly seen that scenario.
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I bet Tony Gibson, WVUs DC reaches out to TK again for the job
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(10-25-2017 08:24 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(10-24-2017 12:28 PM)asuwon Wrote:  Is Tim Horton being considered?

http://www.auburntigers.com/sports/m-foo...97766.html
Tim would be an outstanding choice, but I'm hoping he's still around when our job comes open. I also told him if he took the job I'd never speak to him again!?

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Tim Horton is almost universally mocked by AState fans for showing interest in our job years ago. He'd be perfect for App State.
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(10-25-2017 12:28 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  I bet Tony Gibson, WVUs DC reaches out to TK again for the job

One thing to keep in mind is that you guys are in a far different situation now than you were 2 years ago. Last search you were coming off a 10 win season and a bowl victory. A lot of P5 coordinators were looking at the job believing they could go there, win, and get a P5 job soon after.

Different situation now when you are coming off a 5-7 season last year and an 0-6 start this year that realistically could easily end 0-12. It's not going to attract the same interest it did last time, no matter what gibberish TK throws out there about it being an attractive job. There should be some triple option guys interested though.
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I would fully endorse the hiring of Jamey Chadwell away from Coastal. I enjoy his style of play and innovation as a HC and offensive mind.

I wanted Chadwell 22 months ago before some no name candidate named Summers emerged as the HC. Summers wasn't even a candidate that surfaced as a HC of Southern or any other University.
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(10-25-2017 12:44 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(10-25-2017 12:28 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  I bet Tony Gibson, WVUs DC reaches out to TK again for the job

One thing to keep in mind is that you guys are in a far different situation now than you were 2 years ago. Last search you were coming off a 10 win season and a bowl victory. A lot of P5 coordinators were looking at the job believing they could go there, win, and get a P5 job soon after.

Different situation now when you are coming off a 5-7 season last year and an 0-6 start this year that realistically could easily end 0-12. It's not going to attract the same interest it did last time, no matter what gibberish TK throws out there about it being an attractive job. There should be some triple option guys interested though.

Going 0-12 could also go in favor of a new coach. The headlines a new HC would receive when they take over a program at 0-12 and turn it around to go 8-4 or 9-3 (which is easily attainable considering the young depth on the roster). Remember Southern last 4 recruiting classes have been ranked 1,2,3, and 5 in SBC.

Southern has a strong fan base and a new flow of revenue with the merger of Armstrong Atlantic State.
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