Do we not have any national games anymore involving cusa teams going head to head? I know the sunbelt has wed/thurs games on ESPNU and stuff. Not how it use to be where we would have games on FOX and all that.

#FireJudy

Marshall at MT next Friday night on ESPN2, but we don't have many.

(10-14-2017 09:14 AM)davi78239 Wrote:  Do we not have any national games anymore involving cusa teams going head to head? I know the sunbelt has wed/thurs games on ESPNU and stuff. Not how it use to be where we would have games on FOX and all that.

poster child for the aac

(10-14-2017 09:14 AM)davi78239 Wrote:  Do we not have any national games anymore involving cusa teams going head to head? I know the sunbelt has wed/thurs games on ESPNU and stuff. Not how it use to be where we would have games on FOX and all that.

So we actually know what we are comparing below are the schedules for S. Miss and ECU before Judy came on board....2011

S. Miss 2011 schedule with TV
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vs. No. 12 South Carolina* FSN
No. 11 Virginia Tech* FSN
UAB WITN
North Carolina* CBSSN
at Houston CBSSN
at Memphis WITN
at Navy* CBSSN
Tulanedagger WITN
No. 24 Southern Miss CSS
at UTEP TWEP
UCF FSN
at Marshall CBSSN


ECU 2011 schedule with TV
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vs. No. 12 South Carolina* FSN
No. 11 Virginia Tech* FSN
UAB WITN
North Carolina* CBSSN
at Houston CBSSN
at Memphis WITN
at Navy* CBSSN
Tulanedagger WITN
No. 24 Southern Miss CSS
at UTEP TWEP
UCF FSN
at Marshall CBSSN
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Now lets get to Judy Judy Judy.....2016 schedule for Western and S. Miss

Western 2016
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Rice CBSSN
at No. 1 Alabama* ESPN2
at Miami (OH)* ESPN3
Vanderbilt* CBSSN
Houston Baptist* CUSA.tv
at Louisiana Tech CBSSN
at Middle Tennessee ESPN3
Old Dominion ASN
at Florida Atlantic ASN
FIU beIN
North Texas ESPN3
at Marshall ESPNU
Louisiana Tech ESPN
vs. Memphis* ESPN
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S. Miss schedule 2016
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at Kentucky* ESPNU
Savannah State*
Troy* beIN
at UTEP CI
Rice
at UTSA ASN
at LSU* SECN
Marshalldagger ASN
Charlotte ASN
at Old Dominion ASN
at North Texas beIN
Louisiana Tech ESPNews
vs. Louisiana–Lafayette* ESPN

Now lets go before Judy and a contract based on schools that left

S. Miss 2015
__________________
Mississippi State* FS1
Austin Peay* ASN
at Texas State* ESPN3
at Nebraska* ESPNews
North Texas FCS
at Marshall CBSSN
UTSAdagger ASN
at Charlotte ASN
UTEP FCS
at Rice ASN
Old Dominion ASN
at Louisiana Tech FSN
at WKU ESPN2
vs. Washington* ESPN
____________________________________

Western 2015
_____________________
at Vanderbilt* SECN
Louisiana Tech FS1
at Indiana* ESPNews
Miami (OH)* CBSSN
at Rice FSN
Middle Tennessee FSN
at North Texas CBSSN
at No. 5 LSU* ESPNU
at Old Dominion FSN
Florida Atlanticdagger FSN
at FIU FCS
Marshall FS1
Southern Miss ESPN2
vs. South Florida* ESPN

(10-14-2017 10:09 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Now lets go before Judy and a contract based on schools that left

S. Miss 2015
__________________
at Arkansas* SECN
South Carolina State*
at Texas Tech* FSN
at Middle Tennessee ASN
UTEP ASN
WKU CBSSN
at Massachusetts* ASN
at FIU ESPN3
Rice CI
at North Texas ESPN3
UTSAdagger ESPN3
at Southern Miss ESPNews
at WKU ESPN
vs. No. 25 Navy* ESPN
____________________________________

Western 2015
_____________________
at Vanderbilt* SECN
Louisiana Tech FS1
at Indiana* ESPNews
Miami (OH)* CBSSN
at Rice FSN
Middle Tennessee FSN
at North Texas CBSSN
at No. 5 LSU* ESPNU
at Old Dominion FSN
Florida Atlanticdagger FSN
at FIU FCS
Marshall FS1
Southern Miss ESPN2
vs. South Florida* ESPN

First, that is not Southern Miss schedule from 2015. If so appears we played ourselves later in the year.

More important comparison:
2011: $1.2MM per team (this number could be off slightly, can’t recall specific)
2017: $200k per Team

(10-14-2017 10:17 AM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  

(10-14-2017 10:09 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Now lets go before Judy and a contract based on schools that left

S. Miss 2015
__________________
at Arkansas* SECN
South Carolina State*
at Texas Tech* FSN
at Middle Tennessee ASN
UTEP ASN
WKU CBSSN
at Massachusetts* ASN
at FIU ESPN3
Rice CI
at North Texas ESPN3
UTSAdagger ESPN3
at Southern Miss ESPNews
at WKU ESPN
vs. No. 25 Navy* ESPN
____________________________________

Western 2015
_____________________
at Vanderbilt* SECN
Louisiana Tech FS1
at Indiana* ESPNews
Miami (OH)* CBSSN
at Rice FSN
Middle Tennessee FSN
at North Texas CBSSN
at No. 5 LSU* ESPNU
at Old Dominion FSN
Florida Atlanticdagger FSN
at FIU FCS
Marshall FS1
Southern Miss ESPN2
vs. South Florida* ESPN

First, that is not Southern Miss schedule from 2015. If so appears we played ourselves later in the year.

More important comparison:
2011: $1.2MM per team (this number could be off slightly, can’t recall specific)
2017: $200k per Team

You're correct that's Tech's schedule. I have a eye infection and one eye is covered so it's throwing me off.

Below is S. Miss 2015
Mississippi State* FS1
Austin Peay* ASN
at Texas State* ESPN3
at Nebraska* ESPNews
North Texas FCS
at Marshall CBSSN
UTSAdagger ASN
at Charlotte ASN
UTEP FCS
at Rice ASN
Old Dominion ASN
at Louisiana Tech FSN
at WKU ESPN2
vs. Washington* ESPN


As for money....how in the hell are you going to blame Judy for the make up of this conference? That contract was based off other schools. Schools that left S. Miss behind. But that wasn't the question asked....

Quote:What happened to CUSA on tv?
Do we not have any national games anymore involving cusa teams going head to head? I know the sunbelt has wed/thurs games on ESPNU and stuff. Not how it use to be where we would have games on FOX and all that.

As for the TV schedules if a person wanted to watch their team in 2016 or 2017 you can. As for the money don't act like there are very many fans on this board that actually give a damn about what the TV contract pays. They don't...if they did every one of you would be season ticket holders...

actually supporting your schools. Instead of couch fans that only care if they get to watch a game from their living room....for free.

(10-14-2017 10:25 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(10-14-2017 10:17 AM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  

(10-14-2017 10:09 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Now lets go before Judy and a contract based on schools that left

S. Miss 2015
__________________
at Arkansas* SECN
South Carolina State*
at Texas Tech* FSN
at Middle Tennessee ASN
UTEP ASN
WKU CBSSN
at Massachusetts* ASN
at FIU ESPN3
Rice CI
at North Texas ESPN3
UTSAdagger ESPN3
at Southern Miss ESPNews
at WKU ESPN
vs. No. 25 Navy* ESPN
____________________________________

Western 2015
_____________________
at Vanderbilt* SECN
Louisiana Tech FS1
at Indiana* ESPNews
Miami (OH)* CBSSN
at Rice FSN
Middle Tennessee FSN
at North Texas CBSSN
at No. 5 LSU* ESPNU
at Old Dominion FSN
Florida Atlanticdagger FSN
at FIU FCS
Marshall FS1
Southern Miss ESPN2
vs. South Florida* ESPN

First, that is not Southern Miss schedule from 2015. If so appears we played ourselves later in the year.

More important comparison:
2011: $1.2MM per team (this number could be off slightly, can’t recall specific)
2017: $200k per Team

You're correct that's Tech's schedule. I have a eye infection and one eye is covered so it's throwing me off.

Below is S. Miss 2015
Mississippi State* FS1
Austin Peay* ASN
at Texas State* ESPN3
at Nebraska* ESPNews
North Texas FCS
at Marshall CBSSN
UTSAdagger ASN
at Charlotte ASN
UTEP FCS
at Rice ASN
Old Dominion ASN
at Louisiana Tech FSN
at WKU ESPN2
vs. Washington* ESPN


As for money....how in the hell are you going to blame another for that other than the make up of this conference? But that wasn't the question asked....

Quote:What happened to CUSA on tv?
Do we not have any national games anymore involving cusa teams going head to head? I know the sunbelt has wed/thurs games on ESPNU and stuff. Not how it use to be where we would have games on FOX and all that.

As for the TV schedules if a person wanted to watch their team in 2016 or 2017 you can.

So, are you usually wearing an eye patch then? Because that would explain a lot.

Trust me, I get what you’re saying, WKUYG. As mentioned in another thread, what has Judy done? You’re correct, she inherited a struggling pile of dung. TV probelm, revenue problem, over zealous expansion within the conference etc etc etc. All of this can’t be disputed. Again, what has she done to correct? Rather she likes it or not, her job is to correct these issues or at least improve. Flip side, university presidents and AD’s shoulder as much if not more of the blame but that’s another subject

I'm not saying she's done a good job and I'm not saying this because she's female but the persona she projects is just negative. The only thing I'm arguing is she didn't have much to work with and a short time to do it.

You can go back and read (search) I've always said no to streaming vs TV. But that's because I rather view something by clicking a remote and have it right there. But if the only thing a fan cared about was watching their school play...

streaming is the way to go and Stadium looks (to me) like a better way to doing that than espn3.

The money is not coming back at least not anytime soon and maybe never.

I have to get ready to leave...Western has a 3:30 game

I used to follow this blog when it existed. He named it pretty well a couple of years ago in terms of what he thought would happen to Cusa tv deal.

There were many on this board who gave ECU a hard time for leaving saying the AAC was a lateral move. Well it’s turned out to be far from it. ECU on the other hand is one of the worst teams in college football right now. I am actually surprised how well AAC is doing especially tv coverage.

Good luck as you all find a better tv deal.

http://g5conferencenews.blogspot.com/201...t.html?m=1

(10-14-2017 09:16 AM)monarx Wrote:  #FireJudy

#firejudy is OUR thing!

I thought C-USA was going to require each university to install/acquire it's own Video production equipment. this equipment would enable each University to independently market games that were not picked up by a network or streaming service. I am not really talking about creating our own network, but at least have the conference set some min. standards and expectations. This may already all be in play, I don't know, but it seems like it is easier that ever to get set up for this kind of thing. I am sure it is expensive, but personnel to operate it should not be something you are short on at the universities.

I have not heard good things about the universities that did try to stream their games VIA C-USA, the production was very poor. Was this something that was caused by the universities poor production and/or streaming service?

What's T.V.?

(10-17-2017 12:54 AM)Bhaddawgy Wrote:  I thought C-USA was going to require each university to install/acquire it's own Video production equipment. this equipment would enable each University to independently market games that were not picked up by a network or streaming service. I am not really talking about creating our own network, but at least have the conference set some min. standards and expectations. This may already all be in play, I don't know, but it seems like it is easier that ever to get set up for this kind of thing. I am sure it is expensive, but personnel to operate it should not be something you are short on at the universities.

I have not heard good things about the universities that did try to stream their games VIA C-USA, the production was very poor. Was this something that was caused by the universities poor production and/or streaming service?

Those who are capable and are actually meeting the requirements are on ESPN3.

What hurt us the most, other than the obvious conference rep hit due to reconfiguration (no offense guys, not flaming here), was insisting we keep all or most games on Saturday. As far as TV is concerned that leaves little options. Comparing what we do and how it affects us as a conference to what the MAC or Sunbelt does and how it affects them is like comparing apples to oranges. They are willing to do the things we thumbed our noses up at. So we pay the price on media or lack there of.

In the day and time of CUSA 2.0, we had the luxury of still having sorta a house brand, CBS Sports was not owned by CBS yet and the start up station was willing to pay decent for air time, then Fox Sports tries to gain a spot, again willing to pay up. Our conference changed at the worst time, with TV deals running out. Bottom line is, we weren't willing to accept that we had fallen in prestige and didn't command what we once did, and did not show enough interest to do what the MAC and Belt is doing. So here we sit...........belt level tv money, terrible coverage that will push us down further in the long run. It really sucks for the holdovers that were part of decent times within the conference. Right now its all about who will survive this mess in the landscape and who won't, Idaho was the first to blink, fairly certain they will not be the last. Lastly, when every tom dick and hairy can move up and water down FBS football even more than it is, the gap in revenue will just continue to get worse, along with coverage.

(10-17-2017 01:08 PM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  What hurt us the most, other than the obvious conference rep hit due to reconfiguration (no offense guys, not flaming here), was insisting we keep all or most games on Saturday. As far as TV is concerned that leaves little options. Comparing what we do and how it affects us as a conference to what the MAC or Sunbelt does and how it affects them is like comparing apples to oranges. They are willing to do the things we thumbed our noses up at. So we pay the price on media or lack there of.

In the day and time of CUSA 2.0, we had the luxury of still having sorta a house brand, CBS Sports was not owned by CBS yet and the start up station was willing to pay decent for air time, then Fox Sports tries to gain a spot, again willing to pay up. Our conference changed at the worst time, with TV deals running out. Bottom line is, we weren't willing to accept that we had fallen in prestige and didn't command what we once did, and did not show enough interest to do what the MAC and Belt is doing. So here we sit...........belt level tv money, terrible coverage that will push us down further in the long run. It really sucks for the holdovers that were part of decent times within the conference. Right now its all about who will survive this mess in the landscape and who won't, Idaho was the first to blink, fairly certain they will not be the last. Lastly, when every tom dick and hairy can move up and water down FBS football even more than it is, the gap in revenue will just continue to get worse, along with coverage.

We do have an odd game on Friday, here and there, including the one between our teams in a couple of weeks...

(10-18-2017 06:22 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(10-17-2017 01:08 PM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  What hurt us the most, other than the obvious conference rep hit due to reconfiguration (no offense guys, not flaming here), was insisting we keep all or most games on Saturday. As far as TV is concerned that leaves little options. Comparing what we do and how it affects us as a conference to what the MAC or Sunbelt does and how it affects them is like comparing apples to oranges. They are willing to do the things we thumbed our noses up at. So we pay the price on media or lack there of.

In the day and time of CUSA 2.0, we had the luxury of still having sorta a house brand, CBS Sports was not owned by CBS yet and the start up station was willing to pay decent for air time, then Fox Sports tries to gain a spot, again willing to pay up. Our conference changed at the worst time, with TV deals running out. Bottom line is, we weren't willing to accept that we had fallen in prestige and didn't command what we once did, and did not show enough interest to do what the MAC and Belt is doing. So here we sit...........belt level tv money, terrible coverage that will push us down further in the long run. It really sucks for the holdovers that were part of decent times within the conference. Right now its all about who will survive this mess in the landscape and who won't, Idaho was the first to blink, fairly certain they will not be the last. Lastly, when every tom dick and hairy can move up and water down FBS football even more than it is, the gap in revenue will just continue to get worse, along with coverage.

We do have an odd game on Friday, here and there, including the one between our teams in a couple of weeks...

You missed the point, the belt and MAC is doing mid week games, the MAC has been doing it for a while now, that was one reason they received a decent TV deal to fill those slots. We do Friday games here and there, maybe a Thursday game (those seem to be filled with P5s now), but by our own AD's mouth, we won't play midweek games...............which goes back to my previous statement

Friday night pretty much sums up our TV deal and dearth of leadership all at the same time. There are only two C-USA-specific games on an ESPN network. MT/Marshall on Friday and UTSA/La Tech in November. There are only three on CBS Sports Network.

Yet, the league managed to have the top four teams from the East (as projected in the pre-season) compete against each other at the same time. One on ESPN (the aforementioned MT/Marshall game) and the other on CBSSN (ODU/wkcc).

Think about that. We only have five nationally televised league games between these two networks and the league managed to have two of the five go against each other and the four teams were picked one, two, three, and four in the east.

Is there a more perfect example of the incompetence of this league's leadership than this?