(10-09-2017 02:43 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 02:22 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 01:36 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 01:21 PM)asuwon Wrote:  I remember hearing the same thing about the vaunted Troy rushing attack last year, before our two teams played.

stAte rushed for 208 yards and controlled the football for 36+ minutes in the game, while Troy rushed for a minuscule total of 55 yards.

Hansen also had a higher QB rating than Silvers in that game, as well.

Chunn was hurt that game and couldn't get anything going. You guys were the better team, but there were some factors that played a huge part in how the game played out that you guys are ignoring. Those factors won't be in play this time around. Chunn has a capable backup this year, we're a much deeper team, and we don't play both conference champs in back to back weeks with a five day layover.

That was also Troy's fifth game in a row after playing a tough rivalry game and an extremely physical game against App State. Chunn was beat to death and so we're a lot of other guys. On top of that it was a short week for Troy to get healed up for. StAte had a bye week not long before the game and had nothing but layups against ULM, Georgia State, and NMSU.

ASU was undoubtedly the better team that day, although I'd have to believe Troy would've beaten them on a healthy day.

Can't wait to see what Brown has in store for you guys. I'm sure Troy will be out for revenge.

(10-09-2017 02:01 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 12:56 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 12:12 PM)asuwon Wrote:  We're talking about the QB with the highest QB rating in the Sun Belt.

That guy.

At least he hasn't thrown as many interceptions as he has TDs. That's a sign of a sorry QB. Wouldn't you agree?

Not at all.

Assuming you mean Silvers, he makes all the throws and is being considered an NFL prospect. He picked apart LSU's secondary when he needed to and makes clutch passes.

I'm pretty sure if StAte had a RB that could run for 191 yards on LSU's D, plus had two other RB's almost as good as Chunn, Hansen probably wouldn't have a need to throw for a lot of TD's either. Besides, Silvers' overall resume since his freshman season speaks for itself.

Just because they don't rum much does not mean A-State can not run.

Their RB Wand averages 6.0 ypc, which is pretty darn good.

ULL's Ragas tops the SBC with 7.19 ypc, followed by USA's Johnson (6.07 ypc, and Idaho's Duckworth (6,01 ypc). Only Ragas is far ahead of Wand.

As the season progresses I do look for them to run the ball more because they will have games where they will want to run the clock out.

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/c...vidual/907

Not saying Wand is a bad RB.

But Troy has ran the ball 174 times this season for 908 yards and averaging 5.2 yards per carry, compared to StAte running just 122 times for 427 yards and averaging 3.5 yards per carry.

We haven't had to rely on Silvers and the pass attack to score. So of course he's only going to have 2 TD's on the season. The Troy rush attack has 13 TD's on the season.

Blake Anderson has said he wants A-State to be a down hill running team and right now, but their new OL just has not gotten there yet. He is hinting they are very close.

Once the OL gels, and it will, then its a whole new ball game, and IMO they will be a very balanced offense, and I'm thinking it is going to happen sooner not later.

Their DC certainly hopes it's sooner, and wants to see some long slow drives by the offense.

Cite your source please.

All I hear is RPO and take what they give us, which is why we threw so much starting with Nebraska. I've listened to all the press conferences of Blake and Buster and there is not mention of wanting to be a downhill running team.

(10-08-2017 09:18 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  He looked hurt last outing. In the Ga So game, his aim was way off.
First two games, I’m not sure Aplin was any more accurate.

Justice is going to break Aplin's records if he stays healthy. He's really developing into a very, very good FBS QB. Watch it evolve and enjoy it.

(10-09-2017 07:17 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 02:43 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 02:22 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 01:36 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 01:21 PM)asuwon Wrote:  I remember hearing the same thing about the vaunted Troy rushing attack last year, before our two teams played.

stAte rushed for 208 yards and controlled the football for 36+ minutes in the game, while Troy rushed for a minuscule total of 55 yards.

Hansen also had a higher QB rating than Silvers in that game, as well.

Chunn was hurt that game and couldn't get anything going. You guys were the better team, but there were some factors that played a huge part in how the game played out that you guys are ignoring. Those factors won't be in play this time around. Chunn has a capable backup this year, we're a much deeper team, and we don't play both conference champs in back to back weeks with a five day layover.

That was also Troy's fifth game in a row after playing a tough rivalry game and an extremely physical game against App State. Chunn was beat to death and so we're a lot of other guys. On top of that it was a short week for Troy to get healed up for. StAte had a bye week not long before the game and had nothing but layups against ULM, Georgia State, and NMSU.

ASU was undoubtedly the better team that day, although I'd have to believe Troy would've beaten them on a healthy day.

Can't wait to see what Brown has in store for you guys. I'm sure Troy will be out for revenge.

(10-09-2017 02:01 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 12:56 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  Not at all.

Assuming you mean Silvers, he makes all the throws and is being considered an NFL prospect. He picked apart LSU's secondary when he needed to and makes clutch passes.

I'm pretty sure if StAte had a RB that could run for 191 yards on LSU's D, plus had two other RB's almost as good as Chunn, Hansen probably wouldn't have a need to throw for a lot of TD's either. Besides, Silvers' overall resume since his freshman season speaks for itself.

Just because they don't rum much does not mean A-State can not run.

Their RB Wand averages 6.0 ypc, which is pretty darn good.

ULL's Ragas tops the SBC with 7.19 ypc, followed by USA's Johnson (6.07 ypc, and Idaho's Duckworth (6,01 ypc). Only Ragas is far ahead of Wand.

As the season progresses I do look for them to run the ball more because they will have games where they will want to run the clock out.

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/c...vidual/907

Not saying Wand is a bad RB.

But Troy has ran the ball 174 times this season for 908 yards and averaging 5.2 yards per carry, compared to StAte running just 122 times for 427 yards and averaging 3.5 yards per carry.

We haven't had to rely on Silvers and the pass attack to score. So of course he's only going to have 2 TD's on the season. The Troy rush attack has 13 TD's on the season.

Blake Anderson has said he wants A-State to be a down hill running team and right now, but their new OL just has not gotten there yet. He is hinting they are very close.

Once the OL gels, and it will, then its a whole new ball game, and IMO they will be a very balanced offense, and I'm thinking it is going to happen sooner not later.

Their DC certainly hopes it's sooner, and wants to see some long slow drives by the offense.

Cite your source please.

All I hear is RPO and take what they give us, which is why we threw so much starting with Nebraska. I've listened to all the press conferences of Blake and Buster and there is not mention of wanting to be a downhill running team.

Blake Anderson is my source.

Also said he wanted to be able to run the ball when everybody in the stadium knew they were going to run it. Think it was at the same time.

I have heard him say say hat you said also.

(10-09-2017 07:40 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 07:17 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 02:43 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 02:22 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 01:36 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  Chunn was hurt that game and couldn't get anything going. You guys were the better team, but there were some factors that played a huge part in how the game played out that you guys are ignoring. Those factors won't be in play this time around. Chunn has a capable backup this year, we're a much deeper team, and we don't play both conference champs in back to back weeks with a five day layover.

That was also Troy's fifth game in a row after playing a tough rivalry game and an extremely physical game against App State. Chunn was beat to death and so we're a lot of other guys. On top of that it was a short week for Troy to get healed up for. StAte had a bye week not long before the game and had nothing but layups against ULM, Georgia State, and NMSU.

ASU was undoubtedly the better team that day, although I'd have to believe Troy would've beaten them on a healthy day.

Can't wait to see what Brown has in store for you guys. I'm sure Troy will be out for revenge.

(10-09-2017 02:01 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Just because they don't rum much does not mean A-State can not run.

Their RB Wand averages 6.0 ypc, which is pretty darn good.

ULL's Ragas tops the SBC with 7.19 ypc, followed by USA's Johnson (6.07 ypc, and Idaho's Duckworth (6,01 ypc). Only Ragas is far ahead of Wand.

As the season progresses I do look for them to run the ball more because they will have games where they will want to run the clock out.

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/c...vidual/907

Not saying Wand is a bad RB.

But Troy has ran the ball 174 times this season for 908 yards and averaging 5.2 yards per carry, compared to StAte running just 122 times for 427 yards and averaging 3.5 yards per carry.

We haven't had to rely on Silvers and the pass attack to score. So of course he's only going to have 2 TD's on the season. The Troy rush attack has 13 TD's on the season.

Blake Anderson has said he wants A-State to be a down hill running team and right now, but their new OL just has not gotten there yet. He is hinting they are very close.

Once the OL gels, and it will, then its a whole new ball game, and IMO they will be a very balanced offense, and I'm thinking it is going to happen sooner not later.

Their DC certainly hopes it's sooner, and wants to see some long slow drives by the offense.

Cite your source please.

All I hear is RPO and take what they give us, which is why we threw so much starting with Nebraska. I've listened to all the press conferences of Blake and Buster and there is not mention of wanting to be a downhill running team.

Blake Anderson is my source.

Also said he wanted to be able to run the ball when everybody in the stadium knew they were going to run it. Think it was at the same time.

I have heard him say say hat you said also.

Blake Anderson might wish he was a downhill running team, but he hasn't/can't recruit like that and it does not match his history nor his present as a play caller.

There are at least 11 teams in the conference that would take Silvers over Hansen. I hope both teams enter the last week healthy, could be a great game.

(10-09-2017 07:43 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 07:40 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 07:17 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 02:43 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 02:22 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  That was also Troy's fifth game in a row after playing a tough rivalry game and an extremely physical game against App State. Chunn was beat to death and so we're a lot of other guys. On top of that it was a short week for Troy to get healed up for. StAte had a bye week not long before the game and had nothing but layups against ULM, Georgia State, and NMSU.

ASU was undoubtedly the better team that day, although I'd have to believe Troy would've beaten them on a healthy day.

Can't wait to see what Brown has in store for you guys. I'm sure Troy will be out for revenge.


Not saying Wand is a bad RB.

But Troy has ran the ball 174 times this season for 908 yards and averaging 5.2 yards per carry, compared to StAte running just 122 times for 427 yards and averaging 3.5 yards per carry.

We haven't had to rely on Silvers and the pass attack to score. So of course he's only going to have 2 TD's on the season. The Troy rush attack has 13 TD's on the season.

Blake Anderson has said he wants A-State to be a down hill running team and right now, but their new OL just has not gotten there yet. He is hinting they are very close.

Once the OL gels, and it will, then its a whole new ball game, and IMO they will be a very balanced offense, and I'm thinking it is going to happen sooner not later.

Their DC certainly hopes it's sooner, and wants to see some long slow drives by the offense.

Cite your source please.

All I hear is RPO and take what they give us, which is why we threw so much starting with Nebraska. I've listened to all the press conferences of Blake and Buster and there is not mention of wanting to be a downhill running team.

Blake Anderson is my source.

Also said he wanted to be able to run the ball when everybody in the stadium knew they were going to run it. Think it was at the same time.

I have heard him say say hat you said also.

Blake Anderson might wish he was a downhill running team, but he hasn't/can't recruit like that and it does not match his history nor his present as a play caller.

Anderson has made it very clear that staying ahead of, and moving the chains was all that mattered , and they will take what the defense gives them.

I posted on their message board that it looked like "buster ball" was winning out based the way they were slinging the ball around.

I still look for them to be more balanced as the year goes along but that is an opinion, based on what I've heard/read.

(10-09-2017 08:13 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  There are at least 11 teams in the conference that would take Silvers over Hansen. I hope both teams enter the last week healthy, could be a great game.

I'm just telling you to look out! It is coming! You can book it! Hansen will be a monster!

Why wasn't he a monster vs SMU?

Silvers.

(10-09-2017 08:25 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Why wasn't he a monster vs SMU?

He was 16-26 for 234 yards, 2 TDs and no picks in one half of ball, before leaving the game with back spasms.

He was well on his way to a monster game.

Troy's offensive line is starting to gel. This should really help Silvers regain some footing among the best.

I’m happy with Evans. His potential at least. Honestly different QB’s fit different teams schemes and maybe wouldn’t be as good in another scheme. Example, Pete Thomas for ULM was a fantastic QB, but was in the wrong system. Evans is doing well in our RPO scheme.

(10-09-2017 08:40 PM)asuwon Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 08:25 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Why wasn't he a monster vs SMU?

He was 16-26 for 234 yards, 2 TDs and no picks in one half of ball, before leaving the game with back spasms.

He was well on his way to a monster game.

Monsters play the whole game. Sorry for the kid, but hard to put him over Silvers when he can't go. I'd take a healthy Moore over any RB in the SBC, but until Saturday he hasn't 100% and it showed.

(10-09-2017 09:11 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 08:40 PM)asuwon Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 08:25 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Why wasn't he a monster vs SMU?

He was 16-26 for 234 yards, 2 TDs and no picks in one half of ball, before leaving the game with back spasms.

He was well on his way to a monster game.

Monsters play the whole game. Sorry for the kid, but hard to put him over Silvers when he can't go. I'd take a healthy Moore over any RB in the SBC, but until Saturday he hasn't 100% and it showed.

He whipped Silvers yard dog ass 35-3 last year. Hansen is the best QB in the SBC period.

(10-09-2017 09:01 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  I’m happy with Evans. His potential at least. Honestly different QB’s fit different teams schemes and maybe wouldn’t be as good in another scheme. Example, Pete Thomas for ULM was a fantastic QB, but was in the wrong system. Evans is doing well in our RPO scheme.

Evans has yet to throw an interception in all five games thus far with over 1,000 yards passing. Well, I've jinxed him now.....

Hansen is terrible. Only reason our game was close.

(10-10-2017 02:41 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  Hansen is terrible. Only reason our game was close.

Come on! Its true he kept you in the game with the four picks but he also kept you in the losing column with some great throws. All accomplished while playing with a bad back. Look up his stats when he is healthy and overall performance. But hey, even when he should not have been on the field, his team spanked yours. So much for that.

(10-09-2017 09:33 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 09:11 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 08:40 PM)asuwon Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 08:25 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Why wasn't he a monster vs SMU?

He was 16-26 for 234 yards, 2 TDs and no picks in one half of ball, before leaving the game with back spasms.

He was well on his way to a monster game.

Monsters play the whole game. Sorry for the kid, but hard to put him over Silvers when he can't go. I'd take a healthy Moore over any RB in the SBC, but until Saturday he hasn't 100% and it showed.

He whipped Silvers yard dog ass 35-3 last year. Hansen is the best QB in the SBC period.

You guys are really latching on to that 35-3 win over Troy. That game doesn't prove that Hansen is the best QB in the SBC.

Y'all are starting to sound like La Tech when they bring up their 47-28 whipping of you in the New Orleans Bowl.

(10-10-2017 07:02 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  You guys are really latching on to that 35-3 win over Troy. That game doesn't prove that Hansen is the best QB in the SBC.

You're right.

It proved we were 4+ TDs better than Troy, though... at their house.

(10-09-2017 10:22 PM)SOT1977 Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 09:01 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  I’m happy with Evans. His potential at least. Honestly different QB’s fit different teams schemes and maybe wouldn’t be as good in another scheme. Example, Pete Thomas for ULM was a fantastic QB, but was in the wrong system. Evans is doing well in our RPO scheme.

Evans has yet to throw an interception in all five games thus far with over 1,000 yards passing. Well, I've jinxed him now.....

Thanks a lot SOT. You definitely just jinxed him. Lol.