Our region doesnt host bowl games.... The game in Detroit should be ours, not 6 win ACC and BIG teams.

We have 5 tie ins. None against the best G5 league.
The funbelt has 6 tie ins. 2 less total teams. And 2 against the American.
The MWC gets an auto tie in against the PAC12.
CUSA gets 5 tie ins and 2 backups better than ours... Heart of Dallas and independance bowl which wont be filled by an SEC.

All in all. No home games. And 7 likely bowl squads... (Toledo, WMU, NIU, EMU, Ohio, Miami, UB/CMU)

This year we are not likely getting a NY6 to save us. The big10 and ACC are deep enough to fill their 8th and 9th respective games so the Lions bowl wont feature a MAC team.... Unless we do some major shifting. Those games are attendance woers so idk why the Lions wouldnt want a MAC team. Buffalo, Miami, WMU, Toledo, EMU would gladly play there.

ACC will have its 10th or 11th team in st Pete if CUSA cant fill it. We could take a CUSA spot and get pinned for a nice game with a good AAC team but thats wishful.

We deserve a respectable rotation with BOCA or a BIG game.

https://www.google.com/amp/collegefootba...-2017-2018

yes
MAC bowls suck

Yep.

I don't know for the life of me why we haven't tried getting a bowl in Indianapolis...

We're really in a unique situation as far as G5 conferences go, we're the only one with no southern presence and as such have no proper bowl home if we've been booted out of Detroit and Indy isn't an option. The Belt of C-USA would be in a similar situation if tie-ins and locations were based on team strength alone, but unfortunately we live in a world where Mother Nature dislikes the Rust Belt in December.

(10-01-2017 09:30 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  I don't know for the life of me why we haven't tried getting a bowl in Indianapolis...

We're really in a unique situation as far as G5 conferences go, we're the only one with no southern presence and as such have no proper bowl home if we've been booted out of Detroit and Indy isn't an option. The Belt of C-USA would be in a similar situation if tie-ins and locations were based on team strength alone, but unfortunately we live in a world where Mother Nature dislikes the Rust Belt in December.

Too many tie ins for the SBC.
There should be a UC vs. MAC opportunity tie in... How we dont get the AAC at all is stupid.
THE CAMELIA BOWL SHOULD NOT EXIST...
Too many bowl games in general... Knock off 10 bowl games and make it so 7-5 is eligible and im happy.

Way too many bowl games...but ESPN and the CFB gods want their money.

(10-01-2017 07:23 PM)owen Wrote:  yes
MAC bowls suck

On the bright side, you've got a good chance to spend your holidays in Alabama.

(10-02-2017 10:22 AM)OUVan Wrote:  

(10-01-2017 07:23 PM)owen Wrote:  yes
MAC bowls suck

On the bright side, you've got a good chance to spend your holidays in Alabama.

I spend mine in Florida.

(10-01-2017 09:30 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  I don't know for the life of me why we haven't tried getting a bowl in Indianapolis...

We're really in a unique situation as far as G5 conferences go, we're the only one with no southern presence and as such have no proper bowl home if we've been booted out of Detroit and Indy isn't an option. The Belt of C-USA would be in a similar situation if tie-ins and locations were based on team strength alone, but unfortunately we live in a world where Mother Nature dislikes the Rust Belt in December.

Actually the Midwest location is an advantage because its shared with only 1 other conference in the B1G.

In the south you have SEC, ACC, AAC, CUSA and SBC all of which recruit against each other with the scraps going to the weakest CUSA and SBC programs.

The MAC when it comes to bowls needs a quality over quantity strategy. Talk the AAC into doing a bowl game. Start a bowl in Newport News with CUSA. Move the Camellia to Charleston with the SBC. Offer the AAC a higher pick to secure a tie.

#1 Independence vs. ACC
#2 St. Pete vs. AAC
#3 Mobile vs. SBC
#4 Newport News vs. CUSA
#5 Charleston vs. SBC

Don't lock the Potato Bowl under contract early like we did last time. Try to pitch the MAC #1/#2 to better conferences.

MAC:

-Isn't a direct recruiting threat in the south.
-Regularly produces a ranked team or two.
-Fans can't drive in they need to buy hotel rooms.
-All 12 MAC programs have bowled this decade.

The lack of any postseason worth anything is really hurting attendance and interest in my opinion.

(10-01-2017 03:33 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Our region doesnt host bowl games.... The game in Detroit should be ours, not 6 win ACC and BIG teams.

We have 5 tie ins. None against the best G5 league.
The funbelt has 6 tie ins. 2 less total teams. And 2 against the American.
The MWC gets an auto tie in against the PAC12.
CUSA gets 5 tie ins and 2 backups better than ours... Heart of Dallas and independance bowl which wont be filled by an SEC.

All in all. No home games. And 7 likely bowl squads... (Toledo, WMU, NIU, EMU, Ohio, Miami, UB/CMU)

This year we are not likely getting a NY6 to save us. The big10 and ACC are deep enough to fill their 8th and 9th respective games so the Lions bowl wont feature a MAC team.... Unless we do some major shifting. Those games are attendance woers so idk why the Lions wouldnt want a MAC team. Buffalo, Miami, WMU, Toledo, EMU would gladly play there.

ACC will have its 10th or 11th team in st Pete if CUSA cant fill it. We could take a CUSA spot and get pinned for a nice game with a good AAC team but thats wishful.

We deserve a respectable rotation with BOCA or a BIG game.

https://www.google.com/amp/collegefootba...-2017-2018

Simple answer to a simple question:

Bigger, more important bowls were meted out decades ago (say 90s or before, some many decades before) and then there was an effort to add more bowls for the G5 conferences. ESPN likes the live programming.

So what we have is a bunch of 'Johnny come lately bowls' between G5 conferences as the P5 already have had their bowls for decades and weren't interested in playing G5 teams, anyways.

So for the most part, it is easier to have bowls in Alabama, etc. or be shutout.

The MAC has decided that minor bowls are better than no bowls... I agree!!

I went to the Bahamas Bowl last December. Very nice experience.

(10-04-2017 11:07 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(10-01-2017 09:30 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  I don't know for the life of me why we haven't tried getting a bowl in Indianapolis...

We're really in a unique situation as far as G5 conferences go, we're the only one with no southern presence and as such have no proper bowl home if we've been booted out of Detroit and Indy isn't an option. The Belt of C-USA would be in a similar situation if tie-ins and locations were based on team strength alone, but unfortunately we live in a world where Mother Nature dislikes the Rust Belt in December.

Actually the Midwest location is an advantage because its shared with only 1 other conference in the B1G.

In the south you have SEC, ACC, AAC, CUSA and SBC all of which recruit against each other with the scraps going to the weakest CUSA and SBC programs.

The MAC when it comes to bowls needs a quality over quantity strategy. Talk the AAC into doing a bowl game. Start a bowl in Newport News with CUSA. Move the Camellia to Charleston with the SBC. Offer the AAC a higher pick to secure a tie.

#1 Independence vs. ACC
#2 St. Pete vs. AAC
#3 Mobile vs. SBC
#4 Newport News vs. CUSA
#5 Charleston vs. SBC

Don't lock the Potato Bowl under contract early like we did last time. Try to pitch the MAC #1/#2 to better conferences.

MAC:

-Isn't a direct recruiting threat in the south.
-Regularly produces a ranked team or two.
-Fans can't drive in they need to buy hotel rooms.
-All 12 MAC programs have bowled this decade.

Newport News?

(10-05-2017 05:54 PM)Sitting bull Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 11:07 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(10-01-2017 09:30 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  I don't know for the life of me why we haven't tried getting a bowl in Indianapolis...

We're really in a unique situation as far as G5 conferences go, we're the only one with no southern presence and as such have no proper bowl home if we've been booted out of Detroit and Indy isn't an option. The Belt of C-USA would be in a similar situation if tie-ins and locations were based on team strength alone, but unfortunately we live in a world where Mother Nature dislikes the Rust Belt in December.

Actually the Midwest location is an advantage because its shared with only 1 other conference in the B1G.

In the south you have SEC, ACC, AAC, CUSA and SBC all of which recruit against each other with the scraps going to the weakest CUSA and SBC programs.

The MAC when it comes to bowls needs a quality over quantity strategy. Talk the AAC into doing a bowl game. Start a bowl in Newport News with CUSA. Move the Camellia to Charleston with the SBC. Offer the AAC a higher pick to secure a tie.

#1 Independence vs. ACC
#2 St. Pete vs. AAC
#3 Mobile vs. SBC
#4 Newport News vs. CUSA
#5 Charleston vs. SBC

Don't lock the Potato Bowl under contract early like we did last time. Try to pitch the MAC #1/#2 to better conferences.

MAC:

-Isn't a direct recruiting threat in the south.
-Regularly produces a ranked team or two.
-Fans can't drive in they need to buy hotel rooms.
-All 12 MAC programs have bowled this decade.

Newport News?

Newport News: Because who needs the Bahamas when you can play in the Hampton Roads?

In a perfect world our tie-ins would either be midwestern or exotic locations, which is why I think Boise is the worst possible bowl for us to play in. Here's what I'd like in my unrealistic utopia:

Motor City vs Big Ten - Was always a good game when this matchup happened, pretty close to everyone
Indianapolis vs AAC - Nice stadium, would be nice to play some good G5 programs in our footprint
Mobile vs Sun Belt - A lot of tradition, the city supports the game well and I've heard it's fun
Las Vegas vs MWC - Replicated from the Big West days
Bahamas vs C-USA - Sure as hell beats Montgomery

(10-05-2017 10:35 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(10-05-2017 05:54 PM)Sitting bull Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 11:07 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(10-01-2017 09:30 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  I don't know for the life of me why we haven't tried getting a bowl in Indianapolis...

We're really in a unique situation as far as G5 conferences go, we're the only one with no southern presence and as such have no proper bowl home if we've been booted out of Detroit and Indy isn't an option. The Belt of C-USA would be in a similar situation if tie-ins and locations were based on team strength alone, but unfortunately we live in a world where Mother Nature dislikes the Rust Belt in December.

Actually the Midwest location is an advantage because its shared with only 1 other conference in the B1G.

In the south you have SEC, ACC, AAC, CUSA and SBC all of which recruit against each other with the scraps going to the weakest CUSA and SBC programs.

The MAC when it comes to bowls needs a quality over quantity strategy. Talk the AAC into doing a bowl game. Start a bowl in Newport News with CUSA. Move the Camellia to Charleston with the SBC. Offer the AAC a higher pick to secure a tie.

#1 Independence vs. ACC
#2 St. Pete vs. AAC
#3 Mobile vs. SBC
#4 Newport News vs. CUSA
#5 Charleston vs. SBC

Don't lock the Potato Bowl under contract early like we did last time. Try to pitch the MAC #1/#2 to better conferences.

MAC:

-Isn't a direct recruiting threat in the south.
-Regularly produces a ranked team or two.
-Fans can't drive in they need to buy hotel rooms.
-All 12 MAC programs have bowled this decade.

Newport News?

Newport News: Because who needs the Bahamas when you can play in the Hampton Roads?

It just struck me as odd.

They have no stadium that I know. No one in Virginia sees NN as a destination. ODU is struggling internally with CUSA as the local area just doesn't care or know of the leagues teams. Outside of ODU, the closest CUSA school is Charlotte. The area is dominated by ACC alumni and news. There would be zero interest for a game between a MAC and CUSA team. You might as well play on the Moon.

Yea, I always thought it seemed odd that our "best" bowl tie ins seemed to be against mediocre teams from other conferences. What I think would be awesome is for all the G5 conferences to come together and make our own marquee bowls. Something like:

Bowl 1: #1 AAC vs #1 MWC
Bowl 2: #1 MAC vs #1 CUSA
Bowl 3: #1 Sunbelt vs #2 Overall
(unless teams are otherwise in playoffs and/or new years 6 bowls)

Last season this would've been something like:

Temple vs SDSU
Arkansas State vs WKU
Appalachian State vs Toledo

(10-06-2017 08:00 AM)Michael the Narwhal Wrote:  Yea, I always thought it seemed odd that our "best" bowl tie ins seemed to be against mediocre teams from other conferences. What I think would be awesome is for all the G5 conferences to come together and make our own marquee bowls. Something like:

Bowl 1: #1 AAC vs #1 MWC
Bowl 2: #1 MAC vs #1 CUSA
Bowl 3: #1 Sunbelt vs #2 Overall
(unless teams are otherwise in playoffs and/or new years 6 bowls)

If #1 means champion, then note that one of those teams are necessarily in a New Year's Bowl, so that if all five were of a mind to set up two "#1 vs #1" bowls, it could be done, simply slot the #2 Go5 champion vs the #3 Go5 champion in the senior one, and the #4 Go5 champion vs the #5 Go5 champion in the junior one.

The reason that won't get up is that the MWC #1 would normally rather play a mediocre Pac12 school than the best AAC school, and the AAC #1 would normally rather play a mediocre SEC or ACC school than the best MWC school ... and they can both swing that (Las Vegas Bowl, Birmingham Bowl, Military/Gasaparilla Bowl).

But working out a bowl to host the #1 available MAC vs #1 available CUSA would be OK with me.

I'm not a fan of the current television model. I think selling our bowl games to ESPN properties was a terrible mistake. I think conferences should jointly own bowl games. That would create stability within the structure, at least at the G5 level.

I would love to see C-USA and the MAC partner together and place a bowl in Nashville. The eastern C-USA programs need another destination within their region, and I think the location would be favorable for many MAC teams. By owning the game, we could shop the television rights to networks other then ESPN, who has shown time and time again that they only care about the P5 conferences that they have sunk too much money in.