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I feel badly for Coach Haynes. I'm sure nobody wants to win there more than he. And, he had that health issue on top of that. Also, he lost a major quarterback candidate (Mitchell) and the incumbent starter (Holley). Assuming there is no massive turnaround the rest of the season and his contract is not renewed, I hope he lands on his feet somewhere with a good assistant job. He's still a relatively young man.
10-27-2017 05:11 PM
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(10-27-2017 05:11 PM)Muskrat Wrote:  I feel badly for Coach Haynes. I'm sure nobody wants to win there more than he. And, he had that health issue on top of that. Also, he lost a major quarterback candidate (Mitchell) and the incumbent starter (Holley). Assuming there is no massive turnaround the rest of the season and his contract is not renewed, I hope he lands on his feet somewhere with a good assistant job. He's still a relatively young man.

He will land on his feet. He is a good man and a good coordinator. Just wasn't the guy for KSU. As we know, it is a notoriously difficult job and only a select few can succeed here. Hopefully Joel can find the next one.
10-27-2017 05:31 PM
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It is hard to win when the AD plays the money grab. I have said it before, but I wish they would only do one money game a year. Two if needed. It's hard being .500 when you are playing cupcake. The next coach will have to deal with:
2018 - Penn State, Ole Miss, Illinois
2019 - Arizona State, Auburn
2020 - Arkansas, Kentucky, Alabama

I had fun at Clemson this year, but it would be nice to see six wins.
10-30-2017 08:49 PM
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KentKrazy, some of those a good MAC team would be competitive against. But, I get your point.
10-31-2017 05:39 AM
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Paul Haynes is truly a good man however the way the team has constantly lost has literally turned the team against itself behind closed doors. There has been plenty of fingers being pointed from one side of the ball to the other, particularly defensive players verbally fighting with offense players and vice versa. A lot of players have a mindset that the season can't end soon enough.

Hopefully better days are in our near future and these guys can pull together against the Zips.
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11-08-2017 03:45 PM
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Watched a few clips on ESPN.com and we are woefully SLOW.
11-08-2017 10:00 PM
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It pains me to say this, but I would not be surprised to see Haynes retained for next year. I say this because I am not sure that the powers to be really care about the program. No doubt, outside support is at the lowest that I have ever seen. It appears that the plan is to kill fan interest and then they do not have to deal with a fan base that will call for a program of which we can be proud. Does anyone believe otherwise?
11-08-2017 11:58 PM
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(11-08-2017 11:58 PM)GFlash68 Wrote:  It pains me to say this, but I would not be surprised to see Haynes retained for next year. I say this because I am not sure that the powers to be really care about the program. No doubt, outside support is at the lowest that I have ever seen. It appears that the plan is to kill fan interest and then they do not have to deal with a fan base that will call for a program of which we can be proud. Does anyone believe otherwise?

Yes.

What are they going to say? There is nothing to say at this point.
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11-09-2017 07:59 AM
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I agree with Danny (which is scary) but there is nothing to say. Contract runs out and I think everyone from alumni, fans, students, and players know it so just waiting for whats next.

I have finally come to conclude that while I think rebooting program and dropping down a level makes sense when you look at future nonconference schedules you quickly realize those $$ from playing big boys is essential for budget not just in football but across board.

I just hope Joel has a # of good candidates ready to roll very quickly. I'd like to go route of head coach that has been a head coach at FCS, D2 or D3 level and knows how to build a program.
11-09-2017 08:26 AM
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Why do these strong out of conference schedules we play not attract better recruits? Recruits that get shafted from these power schools can come here and still play a pretty challenging schedule. But, that's not happening.

Also, with only 130 FBS teams in the entire country, it's amazing we can't field competent teams. I'm not even confident when we play FCS schools anymore. Frustrating.
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11-09-2017 09:27 AM
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(11-09-2017 08:26 AM)ksu315 Wrote:  $$ from playing big boys is essential for budget not just in football but across board.

This is what always made me so mad about the "drop down" crowd. That money is holding up a sizable portion of our other, successful programs.

The only thing dropping down does is give us a chance to play teams we might beat more often. At a discount. I'd rather have a lousy football team getting div 1 paydays that supplements other programs budgets.
11-10-2017 05:27 PM
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There is absolutely no reason why we can not have a team like our 2012 team. That team would not have been an embarrassment playing anyone. Maybe we can not produce a team of that caliber every year, but once every 3 years is reasonable. Look at NIU, Toledo, and CMU. It takes the right coach plus a little luck.
11-10-2017 05:53 PM
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What has to be understood is that were KSU to go FCS in football, we wouldn't have the same talent level. The talent level would drop accordingly and I fear that we would win no more in FCS than in FBS.
11-10-2017 07:52 PM
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Two more weeks and most likely another loss to Akron. Haynes is currently 1-3 against Akron.
11-11-2017 11:56 AM
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(11-11-2017 11:56 AM)ilovegymnast Wrote:  Two more weeks and most likely another loss to Akron. Haynes is currently 1-3 against Akron.

Two years ago I watched, with a friend who is a CMU grad, us get smoked at home by CMU, at that point I knew the OC had to go - but he didn't and here we are at the bottom of DI teams in scoring. It's not engaging football and our QB situation is horrendous - I say give Crum a shot. Others have mentioned the loss of Mitchell, but the kid has barely played, can't stay healthy and we were his only offer out of high school (I recall his high school coach begging us to give him a shot) - at this point it has to be Crum, GB has worked his way out of a starting job in my book!

I care about this program and it hurts to watch us fail to compete week after week. As much as I like PH - he and all of his staff must go within hours afterthe Akron game.
11-11-2017 04:35 PM
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I'm enjoying listening to the ESPN announcers being dumbfounded by our play calling. Welcome to our hell.
11-14-2017 07:37 PM
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We look terrible. This is not new, but it also looks to me like our effort has decreased significantly and the players are just going through the motions. I paused before posting this because I hate saying this over and over.......and then watched CMU walk into the end zone.
11-14-2017 08:08 PM
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If I counted correctly, this will be the 16th time KSU won 2 or fewer games in a season in the last 40 years. It has become oh so common. How on earth is the next coach, no matter who he may be, going to convince anyone to come play for him, unless Kent State is the only FBS team that offered?
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11-14-2017 08:17 PM
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ESPN did a graphic that said Kent has had 4 games under 100 yards passing. So I had to look it up to see if it was correct and sadly it was. I know our offensive stats are terrible but wow.. just wow... Oh and in all four of those games we had more penalty yards than passing yards.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/sch...7/gamelog/
11-14-2017 09:31 PM
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Rankin was having a good day until he lost half his rushing yards and a stupid freaking wildcat set that was snapped by him. His stat line will not reflect how he played tonight.
11-14-2017 10:12 PM
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