They say this is only the beginning.

We're not talking sanctions here. We're talking sentences.

(09-26-2017 05:02 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  They say this is only the beginning.

We're not talking sanctions here. We're talking sentences.

Must go on at most, if not all, the big power schools. Does it trickle down to the mid-majors? Who the heck knows. I sincerely doubt it goes on here, if for no other reason then we don't have the money to pay players. I also don't believe Chasse would allow it. Although I wonder, if AD's at big schools don't even know about it or turn a blind eye.

(09-26-2017 08:13 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(09-26-2017 05:02 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  They say this is only the beginning.

We're not talking sanctions here. We're talking sentences.

Must go on at most, if not all, the big power schools. Does it trickle down to the mid-majors? Who the heck knows. I sincerely doubt it goes on here, if for no other reason then we don't have the money to pay players. I also don't believe Chasse would allow it. Although I wonder, if AD's at big schools don't even know about it or turn a blind eye.

I agree that it is unlikely that mid-majors are involved, as they don't have the dough, etc as you point out. Maybe a few do, but not many. This deal is a real can of worms, and it's hard to know where it is going!

From what I have read, the sports apparel companies and agents are paying the money, not the schools. If a mid-major was involved in this they would be competing with the big boys on the court.

Here is a very good Sports Illustrated article.
Pay particular attention to the section that starts "The federal government's stake in this topic..."
Read that and then thumb your nose at ua fayetteville for being ever so proud to say no public money is spent on athletics. Bull sh**. There are athletes at ua fayetteville that are involved in non revenue sports who don't get full scholarships. Why? Because the ncaa does not allow full scholarships in those sports. Those athletes have to rely on federal dollars (student loans, pell grants) to help pay tuition and fees. Universities public and private, receive federal dollars and tax breaks for enrollment numbers.

I am not a lawyer, but people will go to jail over this. As the article points out, some could face a maximum of 100 years.
Louisville is already on probation. The NCAA will likely take another look at Louisville. Can't be good for Louisville. The Louisville recruit should soon be ruled ineligible for college sports. Or Louisville, afraid of having to forfeit wins and money for using an ineligible player, will cut him loose and no other school will take a chance on him. He could sue Louisville.

This should bring to light the corruption in AAU basketball that everybody knows already exists.
This could be a watershed moment.

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/20...ille-bribe

(09-27-2017 09:09 AM)ez272 Wrote:  I am not a lawyer, but people will go to jail over this.

All this reminds me: when I started to work for Temple-Inland (later bought by Intl Paper) in 1990, the big anti-trust action in the paper industry from the 1970s was still fresh on everyone's mind. Part of new employee orientation was to watch a film that basically said, "If you in any way collude to influence pricing or markets, we will swear we never knew you and you are completely on your own." It was a huge deal, and several high executives in the industry served time.

I am guessing that everyone up to and including college presidents are sweating this one.

I doubt that the boys in the federal enforcement arms have much of a sense of humor and little interest concerning what happens on the court. The NCAA is the least of the problems for the Pitinos of the world right now.

From CBS: "Soon, they'll all be fired, probably never to coach in Division I again. But before they go, who will they take down with them? It's key to keep in mind that more coaches are under suspicion. It's key to keep in mind just how much leverage the FBI and the Department of Justice will have when it comes to leaning on defendants."

Headline from The Sporting News:

"College basketball is warned: FBI plays higher-stakes game than NCAA"

When the feds show up, they do so without warning. I am guessing there are going to be some raids on college campuses, computers confiscated, etc. This could get really, really ugly.

Tom Jurich at Louisville refused to resign and has been fired.

(09-27-2017 10:59 AM)ez272 Wrote:  Tom Jurich at Louisville refused to resign and has been fired.

Pitino is reportedly next. What are the chances that Petrino is clean?

Add to the list a staff member at Alabama. And Miami is under investigation.

I love it! Finally these sleezebags are going to get what is coming to them.

And I keep reminding myself that these are not NCAA sanctions: these are jail sentences we are talking about.

And think about how the college presidents (ALL of them) are sweating it. Because the feds don't just haul off the person involved; they confiscate any records, computers, etc., that might have anything to do with the case on down the line. This could be ugly.

And every school and every person they investigate is going to uncover other threads that will unravel when they are pulled.

Do you think the hiring process just got a lot more difficult? Now you will have to hire a private investigation firm to look into everything about the coach to be sure you are not going to have the feds kicking down your door tomorrow.

The bright side? As one good guy coach put it, "Those of us who did things the right way are now going to be vindicated" (or words to that effect).

Louisville board has begun the process of terminating Pitino's contract "for cause." At the moment, that would be the least of his problems.

"We have your playbook," New York FBI Assistant Director in Charge William Sweeney said Tuesday in a warning to other coaches. "Our investigation is ongoing. We are conducting additional interviews as we speak."

(10-04-2017 10:11 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  "We have your playbook," New York FBI Assistant Director in Charge William Sweeney said Tuesday in a warning to other coaches. "Our investigation is ongoing. We are conducting additional interviews as we speak."

Great to hear. Hope they are actually successful in "cleaning up" college sports.

This ain't over. From CBS:

So what happens if those assistants start talking? Will their stories include other staff members? Will they include Enfield and Pearl specifically? And, if they do, does that mean Enfield's and Pearl's seats are hotter now than any number of coaches who haven't won nearly as much as they've won? Meantime, Miami coach Jim Larranaga has been served with a subpoena. Is he on the hot seat? And Oklahoma State has been served a subpoena that covers a timeframe of three different coaches -- namely Travis Ford, who is now at Saint Louis, Brad Underwood, who is now at Illinois, and current OSU coach Mike Boynton. Are any of them on the hot seat? Are they all on the hot seat? Two Adidas executives are also facing federal charges. So what happens if they start talking? Is every staff at every prominent Adidas school on the hot seat? And some Nike records have reportedly been subpoenaed. So is every staff at every prominent Nike school on the hot seat?

You bet. They won't be the first song bird to start singing when faced with many, many years in Federal prison. I will not be surprised to see this touch another 50 schools. College basketball is about to change. Question is, which direction will it take? Will the NCAA remain viable? Will they go above table and start paying players what they are actually worth? Mike Balado spent the past 4 seasons at Louisville.