(09-25-2017 09:08 AM)axeme Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 08:44 AM)ilovegymnast Wrote:  Kent's offensive stats against 3 FBS teams... This is why we win the sucking battle

129 passing yards
10 completions on 27 attempts
43 yards per game

400 rushing yards
142 carries
133.3 yards per game

176.3 total yards per game

6 points

Just to be clear for those who don't follow KSU football, those numbers are the TOTALS, not per game averages. 10 completions in 3 FBS games.

Credit this genius who once ran a QB draw on 4th and 26:

(09-25-2017 10:56 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 09:17 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  The main concern with Toledo is how good are they. Their three wins are over teams with a combined 1-5 record. What would be considered their big win (Tulsa) just lost to New Mexico.

You arent wrong but UNM was in a bowl last year and run the triple option. They can have some games when they are inferior in the talent dept.

Tulsa got smoked by Ok St but thats a good football team. I obviously believe we are somewhat good when we can have 15 penalties, yield 3 rushers over 100 yards and still win. Clean some things up and Toledo is dangerous. We have played 3 run heavy teams and our pass D is the good part of our D.

I'm definitely not saying Toledo isn't at the top of the MAC right now. You guys certainly have the best offense. The defense is giving up way too many points. It will be interesting to see how things turn out in MAC play.

It's hard to say right now. But my take on it is:

Toledo
NIU
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Ohio
EMU
WMU
Miami-OH
Buffalo
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Ball State
CMU
Akron
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BGSU
Kent State

(09-25-2017 10:53 AM)Hiller4Hyz09 Wrote:  

(09-24-2017 02:18 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Lines indicating difference between tiers.

Toledo
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NIU
WMU
OU
EMU
UB
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BALL STATE
MIAMI
CMU
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KENT
AKRON
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BGSU

Ball State is currently favored to beat WMU in Kalamazoo Saturday night.

ummmm no... looks like WMU is around -12 right now. #fakenews

Here are mine:
Toledo
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Ohio
Northern Illinois
Eastern Michigan
Miami
Western Michigan
Buffalo
Central Michigan
Ball St
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Akron
Kent St
Bowling Green St

*I like NIU's win over Nebraska. Not sure how many other MAC teams would've been able to pull it off.
*The loss to Miami brings CMU down
*Ohio's got to be the front-runner in the East
*WMU looked pathetic vs Michigan St but has been decent their other 3 games.
*UB's the surprise team.
* After UT, it's a log-jam.

BSU and MIAMI both having losses to CUSA teams keeps em in a tier below the log jam IMO. CMU losing to Syracuse that bad after Cuse just got beat by MTSU, paired with the RI game??? has me inclined to believe they arent that good. So MIAMIs win over them isnt that good.... The only one in the tier above that has given me a reason to believe they should be with those 3 teams is UB. But they have played good defensive ball and could have beaten both Army and Minny.

NIU and WMU are the toughest to judge because NIU is a defensively tough team who lost to BC at home, while WMU has played basically 2 games where 10 MAC teams would be 30 and 20 point underdogs to.

Lots of shifting to happen still.... I could see EMU trending up with NIU getting smoked by SDSU and slipping.

Miami has the talent to climb up as well.

Akron had a great 1st half against Iowa State, and went toe to toe against Troy. I have to put Akron above KSU & BGSU.

Ball State didn't play their starting QB & RB last game against WKU from what I heard -- so Understandably they lost to @WKU. If just temporary injuries, they could climb right back up in how tough they are.

CMU -- skitzo because of Morris @QB. Good enough to light up a decent team, especially with a non-solid D (yeah, Toledo) -- but also potentially bad enough to be in a dogfight against Rhode Island.

Buffalo looks tougher than years past -- where you'd have to Earn your win against them. They'll do some damage in the MAC East.

EMU -- I'm not impressed by their O, but their D is there, and they play tough. They'll play with anyone in the MAC, and if you walk into a game against them with key injuries, no matter who you are, you've got a decent shot at losing.

Miami -- they'll climb up.

In the end, I think the MAC's going to beat up on each other quite a lot this year.

(09-24-2017 11:10 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Guys.... Not every team can be last!

I don't see Toledo winning another game.