(09-25-2017 04:31 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Buffalo had a TOP advantage of 40.5 to 19.5. The defense was not doing a good job stopping Buffalo from controlling the clock or obtaining first downs. I go for it on 4th and 3 there every time. Buffalo had 1, 3 and out all game. If you punt, you have a very good chance of not seeing the ball again. Rather have the "ball" in the hands of the better unit (offense).

Such a lopsided time of possession also suggests that FAU wasn't having much success against that D on Saturday either. Lots of things can happen with 3 minutes and three time-outs if you punt. Also, say they punt; Buffalo will likely run the ball to force FAU to burn all their time-outs and then punt with a couple minutes still left in the game. Basically, FAU takes over with a fresh set of downs sans their timeouts down by three if they would have punted there. Like I said, you can't win the game by going for it on 4th down deep in your own territory but you sure as heck can lose it.

(09-25-2017 04:46 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 04:31 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Buffalo had a TOP advantage of 40.5 to 19.5. The defense was not doing a good job stopping Buffalo from controlling the clock or obtaining first downs. I go for it on 4th and 3 there every time. Buffalo had 1, 3 and out all game. If you punt, you have a very good chance of not seeing the ball again. Rather have the "ball" in the hands of the better unit (offense).

Such a lopsided time of possession also suggests that FAU wasn't having much success against that D on Saturday either. Lots of things can happen with 3 minutes and three time-outs if you punt. Also, say they punt; Buffalo will likely run the ball to force FAU to burn all their time-outs and then punt with a couple minutes still left in the game. Basically, FAU takes over with a fresh set of downs sans their timeouts down by three if they would have punted there. Like I said, you can't win the game by going for it on 4th down deep in your own territory but you sure as heck can lose it.

You always go for the win and you certainly could win the game with a conversion. Anyone that doesn't want the ball with a chance to win doesn't deserve to be on the field. This isn't 4th and long, it's 4th and very manageable where even the run is in play. Who's to say FAU can even stop the run with a loaded box? And if you punt, you are now out of timeouts.

I get your point on TOP, but part of it is certainly how fast FAU plays. With the game on the line, would you rather have the ball or have a poor defense on the field?

(09-25-2017 04:10 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 03:47 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Name call all you want. It just makes you look dumb while calling me dumb

You'll never convince me that going for it at your own 17 with 3 timeouts and over 3 minutes left is a smart move. It's a stupid football play

But man it was so genius that it got us down 10 points quickly !

We will see on Johnson. I'm not convinced he will ever be an impact guy. That qb transfer from ou has to be better than the slop we've had for years at the position

So you would have rather been down 10 points and they take all the time off the clock?

It's hard for people to understand new thoughts in football. Just because you have three timeouts their doesn't mean it's best to punt.
If they get 1-2 first down it's over and we do not touch the ball. At that point in the game did you have any faith that we could have forced them 3 and out?

Baseball managers always though bunting a guy over with 0 outs was better, but 100 of years of stats say that having a guy on 1st with 0 outs gives you 2 percent chance of scoring better than having a guy on 2nd with 1 out. Yet they did it because that is what people just have always done.

You criticized De'andre for not winning the job, but again he had this blood clot of awhile before they caught it and it was effecting the way he threw.
So unlike I will hold judgment until he plays health if ever.

And if you don't get the first down you are down 2 scores. Yeah I'll take my chances on stopping them with 3 timeouts. Especially because tons of coaches go conservative to force you to burn the timeouts and thus give you a way better shot

You are ridiculous acting like you know so much. I've laid off you because you went to the same school but the disrespect and arrogance you show on here is appalling. And the knowledge doesn't support the bravado. And that's being nice

If by new idea you mean bad coaching then yeah kiffin is a genius ..

Johnson had a lot more issues than lack of zip on the ball too .. his accuracy and decision making left a a lot to be desired

Hope he proves me wrong but a talented stud player would beat out these 2 chumps despite this velocity issue And I hope he gets better quickly

(09-25-2017 04:31 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Buffalo had a TOP advantage of 40.5 to 19.5. The defense was not doing a good job stopping Buffalo from controlling the clock or obtaining first downs. I go for it on 4th and 3 there every time. Buffalo had 1, 3 and out all game. If you punt, you have a very good chance of not seeing the ball again. Rather have the "ball" in the hands of the better unit (offense).

Better unit on this team isn't saying much. They suck. I hate it but you have to be objective

I hope for improvement with a new staff and many new players. But right now they are flat out awful

(09-25-2017 05:09 PM)Ragu Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 04:31 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Buffalo had a TOP advantage of 40.5 to 19.5. The defense was not doing a good job stopping Buffalo from controlling the clock or obtaining first downs. I go for it on 4th and 3 there every time. Buffalo had 1, 3 and out all game. If you punt, you have a very good chance of not seeing the ball again. Rather have the "ball" in the hands of the better unit (offense).

Better unit on this team isn't saying much. They suck. I hate it but you have to be objective

I hope for improvement with a new staff and many new players. But right now they are flat out awful

Well, I happen to think that our offense is decent. Virtually no one pounds Buffalo defense like we did. Our problem was we were not stopping Buffalo's Offense, but they weren't stopping ours either.

(09-25-2017 04:57 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  You always go for the win and you certainly could win the game with a conversion. Anyone that doesn't want the ball with a chance to win doesn't deserve to be on the field. This isn't 4th and long, it's 4th and very manageable where even the run is in play. Who's to say FAU can even stop the run with a loaded box? And if you punt, you are now out of timeouts.

I get your point on TOP, but part of it is certainly how fast FAU plays. With the game on the line, would you rather have the ball or have a poor defense on the field?

It was a move of desperation when the circumstances didn't really call for it.