(09-17-2017 09:00 PM)Kaplony Wrote: (09-17-2017 08:31 PM)JMUDunk Wrote: (09-17-2017 08:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote: (09-17-2017 07:49 PM)JMUDunk Wrote: (09-17-2017 07:43 PM)Chappy Wrote: Yeah, the article mentioned the GT police don't have stun guns. Would have come in handy here and saved a life.
You'd think if it's more than 1 cop, they could simply bum-rush this person and take them down. course I wasn't there, who knows.
Mental illness is something else, tough stuff. Hard to "diagnose" from a computer and 1 news story.
"OK guys...we are going to bum rush this dude. At least one, probably more of us is going to get cut up so bad we are going to look like a road map but we're going. On three. One....two.....THREE!"
C'mon, Kap.
This wasn't a guy with a machete. Clearly a troubled kid, with a swiss army knife or maybe a leatherman.
And no, they wouldn't announce it in advance, schit we did this stuff when I worked as a doorman/bouncer at some reasonably large bars/clubs.
One of us keeps the person distracted and watching, looking at us, another guy takes him out from the back or side. Quick full nelson and throw them out the door.
And these are trained Cops, not part-time help, dope smoking surfers trying to make some extra bucks and pick up on drunk chicks.
I'm as big a backer as near anyone, but lethal force in this instance... dunno.
How many knives did you face?
How many "mentally disturbed" people did you face who turned out to be actually surfing the illicit pharmaceutical wave?
How many innocent bystanders were you trying to protect?
Maybe what you should do since you are the expert in handling this kind of situation is this
http://police.gatech.edu/careers-gtpd
Quote:The Georgia Tech Police Department is looking for individuals committed to making this Department one of the best in the country. We seek honest, courteous, and compassionate individuals who are dedicated to leadership and excellence. We are seeking people who can work independently and as a member of a team, people who can lead and who can follow. If you possess these qualities, you could enjoy a rewarding and enriching career with the Georgia Tech Police Department.
Or you can realize that perhaps the reason that the methods employed by "part-time dope smoking surfers" aren't used by professional law enforcement agencies is that they were stupid as hell and only the good Lord looking out for drunks or fools did it not result in someone getting hurt or killed. I mean Charleston Fire Dept successfully fought structure fire for decades the way they fought the Sofa Super Store fire. Doesn't change the fact that the methods and tactics they used were dangerous as hell and resulted in nine firefighters dying that day.
Who, anywhere, claimed expertise?
Certainly not me. Readily admitted exactly who we were and what we were doing/getting paid for. Relax.
Just saying there is/was pretty clearly a wide asss middle ground here, we gonna start mowing down every drunk kid with a kitchen knife? Running around drunk, or even jacked up on PCP/Meth/acid, whatever?
To answer your specific questions:
How many knives? No idea. Saw one once, number of broken beer bottles (pretty much same thing) had a gun taken off another guy, bad hombre it appears.
Mentally ill? How does one diagnose that in the parking lot of the Electric Circus?!?
Innocent bystanders? Hundreds each night. Perhaps a thousand or two during the better bands nights.
Smithereens used to pack them in pretty good, same as George Thorogood and the Delaware Destroyers...
Finally, when I said part-time dope smoking surfers... I include myself in that group of employ, but will say I was past the dope smoking part by then. Doesn't mean we/they all were.
To the topic at hand-
In your opinion, and I honestly trust your background and expertise (no joke/sarcasm) was there no other avenue here?
I could honestly see a thousand of these "confrontations" every weekend on college campi. Some hammerhead yelling "Come at me Bro!" to the local cops, and they end up dead?
This is where we want to be? That ain' right.