(09-17-2017 08:32 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Case for Toledo:

If Tulsa wins 8, EMU goes undefeated OOC (already beat Rutgers with Kentucky and Army left), NIU is above .500 (already beat Nebraska and gets SDSU this week) AND if Toledo knocks off Miami this week, they will be playing catch up but in the convo with maybe the best G5 win. The most meaningful obviously would being 13-0 and getting over the hump this week.

Lot of ifs there, but 100% if Toledo goes on the road and beats Miami they should be in the conversation.

(09-17-2017 08:55 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 06:36 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 01:25 PM)BullsBEAST Wrote:  Sdsu looks like the biggest threat with wins over Arizona state and a (shouldn't have been) ranked Stanford team.

Winner of aac or Sdsu.

USF Memphis and Sdsu should all be ranked right now(i know they prob won't all be). Short of aac champion having 2 losses I think we should still get it.

Stanford WAS ranked (19). I hate to admit it but SDSU is easily the front runner right now. USFs schedule is horrendous. Memphis has the best chance in the AAC.

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What in the world does USF schedule have to do with anything? You have to be A CONFERENCE CHAMPION to go to the NY6 bowl. If USF wins the AAC, they go.

The conference champion with the best resume will make the NY6 bowl. Currently USF has not done much resume building, rather they're riding preseason hype. Yall may indeed be the best team in this conference, but yall are going to be very dependent on how teams like Memphis, UH, and UCF do, if yall are going to make the NY6 bowl. Because right now SDSU is putting themselves in a very good position.

(09-17-2017 08:55 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 06:36 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 01:25 PM)BullsBEAST Wrote:  Sdsu looks like the biggest threat with wins over Arizona state and a (shouldn't have been) ranked Stanford team.

Winner of aac or Sdsu.

USF Memphis and Sdsu should all be ranked right now(i know they prob won't all be). Short of aac champion having 2 losses I think we should still get it.

Stanford WAS ranked (19). I hate to admit it but SDSU is easily the front runner right now. USFs schedule is horrendous. Memphis has the best chance in the AAC.

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What in the world does USF schedule have to do with anything? You have to be A CONFERENCE CHAMPION to go to the NY6 bowl. If USF wins the AAC, they go.

Wow, that auto bid sure worked in 2014 and 2016 huh?

USF will get the NY6 bowl spot and Memphis will shock the world and get the 4th seed in the playoffs.

(09-17-2017 09:12 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 08:55 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 06:36 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 01:25 PM)BullsBEAST Wrote:  Sdsu looks like the biggest threat with wins over Arizona state and a (shouldn't have been) ranked Stanford team.

Winner of aac or Sdsu.

USF Memphis and Sdsu should all be ranked right now(i know they prob won't all be). Short of aac champion having 2 losses I think we should still get it.

Stanford WAS ranked (19). I hate to admit it but SDSU is easily the front runner right now. USFs schedule is horrendous. Memphis has the best chance in the AAC.

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What in the world does USF schedule have to do with anything? You have to be A CONFERENCE CHAMPION to go to the NY6 bowl. If USF wins the AAC, they go.

Wow, that auto bid sure worked in 2014 and 2016 huh?

My point was more about who you beat along the way. Memphis had a huge/great win against an awesome team, but if they don't win the AAC CCG, they don't go to the "autobid" NY6 game. They could be an "at large" team making an NY6 bowl game somehow however.

(09-17-2017 09:15 PM)Crazier Wrote:  USF will get the NY6 bowl spot and Memphis will shock the world and get the 4th seed in the playoffs.

Wait are you saying Memphis is better than usf or the other way around? Because more than likely if Memphis were to get the playoff spot usfs would be out of the running for ny6.

Also yes i know this is probably sarcasm. But i do enjoy talking hypothetical scenarios when it comes to football.

(09-17-2017 09:20 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:15 PM)Crazier Wrote:  USF will get the NY6 bowl spot and Memphis will shock the world and get the 4th seed in the playoffs.

Wait are you saying Memphis is better than usf or the other way around? Because more than likely if Memphis were to get the playoff spot usfs would be out of the running for ny6.

Also yes i know this is probably sarcasm. But i do enjoy talking hypothetical scenarios when it comes to football.

Hypothetical: USF goes undefeated and wins CCG. Memphis beats UCLA, Clemson, Ohio State, and Bama but loses CCG to USF. Memphis goes to the playoffs and USF gets the autobid to the NY6 bowl game.

(09-17-2017 09:23 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:20 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:15 PM)Crazier Wrote:  USF will get the NY6 bowl spot and Memphis will shock the world and get the 4th seed in the playoffs.

Wait are you saying Memphis is better than usf or the other way around? Because more than likely if Memphis were to get the playoff spot usfs would be out of the running for ny6.

Also yes i know this is probably sarcasm. But i do enjoy talking hypothetical scenarios when it comes to football.

Hypothetical: USF goes undefeated and wins CCG. Memphis beats UCLA, Clemson, Ohio State, and Bama but loses CCG to USF. Memphis goes to the playoffs and USF gets the autobid to the NY6 bowl game.

Wait but wouldn't Memphis have to win the ccg to play those teams? Or are you saying they play them before that? Memphis definitely wouldn't be in the playoff if they lose the ccg. Im so confused lol!

(09-17-2017 09:10 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 08:55 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 06:36 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 01:25 PM)BullsBEAST Wrote:  Sdsu looks like the biggest threat with wins over Arizona state and a (shouldn't have been) ranked Stanford team.

Winner of aac or Sdsu.

USF Memphis and Sdsu should all be ranked right now(i know they prob won't all be). Short of aac champion having 2 losses I think we should still get it.

Stanford WAS ranked (19). I hate to admit it but SDSU is easily the front runner right now. USFs schedule is horrendous. Memphis has the best chance in the AAC.

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What in the world does USF schedule have to do with anything? You have to be A CONFERENCE CHAMPION to go to the NY6 bowl. If USF wins the AAC, they go.

The conference champion with the best resume will make the NY6 bowl. Currently USF has not done much resume building, rather they're riding preseason hype. Yall may indeed be the best team in this conference, but yall are going to be very dependent on how teams like Memphis, UH, and UCF do, if yall are going to make the NY6 bowl. Because right now SDSU is putting themselves in a very good position.

And sdsu is done, there are no more resume building wins for them, other than possibly boise. Despite that usf is still ahead. Its usf's bid till they lose.

Sdsu and memphis are behind but in good position. Houston and toledo have the best chance to improve their position ooc still. Ucf is outside but has a chance. Navy is a longer shot. The aac is the most likely conference to produce the ny6.

(09-17-2017 09:46 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:23 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:20 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:15 PM)Crazier Wrote:  USF will get the NY6 bowl spot and Memphis will shock the world and get the 4th seed in the playoffs.

Wait are you saying Memphis is better than usf or the other way around? Because more than likely if Memphis were to get the playoff spot usfs would be out of the running for ny6.

Also yes i know this is probably sarcasm. But i do enjoy talking hypothetical scenarios when it comes to football.

Hypothetical: USF goes undefeated and wins CCG. Memphis beats UCLA, Clemson, Ohio State, and Bama but loses CCG to USF. Memphis goes to the playoffs and USF gets the autobid to the NY6 bowl game.

Wait but wouldn't Memphis have to win the ccg to play those teams? Or are you saying they play them before that? Memphis definitely wouldn't be in the playoff if they lose the ccg. Im so confused lol!

No, I was going way out on a limb for the scenario of how a G5 team could make the playoffs without winning its own CCG. Memphis would have to have those teams on their regular season schedule (obviously can't have that many OOC games). But let's say Memphis did somehow schedule Bama and Clemson AND win, they could have an only loss to USF and make the playoffs while USF would go to the crappy NY6 pity bowl.

(09-17-2017 10:07 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:46 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:23 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:20 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:15 PM)Crazier Wrote:  USF will get the NY6 bowl spot and Memphis will shock the world and get the 4th seed in the playoffs.

Wait are you saying Memphis is better than usf or the other way around? Because more than likely if Memphis were to get the playoff spot usfs would be out of the running for ny6.

Also yes i know this is probably sarcasm. But i do enjoy talking hypothetical scenarios when it comes to football.

Hypothetical: USF goes undefeated and wins CCG. Memphis beats UCLA, Clemson, Ohio State, and Bama but loses CCG to USF. Memphis goes to the playoffs and USF gets the autobid to the NY6 bowl game.

Wait but wouldn't Memphis have to win the ccg to play those teams? Or are you saying they play them before that? Memphis definitely wouldn't be in the playoff if they lose the ccg. Im so confused lol!

No, I was going way out on a limb for the scenario of how a G5 team could make the playoffs without winning its own CCG. Memphis would have to have those teams on their regular season schedule (obviously can't have that many OOC games). But let's say Memphis did somehow schedule Bama and Clemson AND win, they could have an only loss to USF and make the playoffs while USF would go to the crappy NY6 pity bowl.

Ah ok! Ya that could work i guess! But i was talking about at least somewhat more plausible hypothetical scenarios.

(09-17-2017 09:54 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:10 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 08:55 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 06:36 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 01:25 PM)BullsBEAST Wrote:  Sdsu looks like the biggest threat with wins over Arizona state and a (shouldn't have been) ranked Stanford team.

Winner of aac or Sdsu.

USF Memphis and Sdsu should all be ranked right now(i know they prob won't all be). Short of aac champion having 2 losses I think we should still get it.

Stanford WAS ranked (19). I hate to admit it but SDSU is easily the front runner right now. USFs schedule is horrendous. Memphis has the best chance in the AAC.

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What in the world does USF schedule have to do with anything? You have to be A CONFERENCE CHAMPION to go to the NY6 bowl. If USF wins the AAC, they go.

The conference champion with the best resume will make the NY6 bowl. Currently USF has not done much resume building, rather they're riding preseason hype. Yall may indeed be the best team in this conference, but yall are going to be very dependent on how teams like Memphis, UH, and UCF do, if yall are going to make the NY6 bowl. Because right now SDSU is putting themselves in a very good position.

And sdsu is done, there are no more resume building wins for them, other than possibly boise. Despite that usf is still ahead. Its usf's bid till they lose.

Sdsu and memphis are behind but in good position. Houston and toledo have the best chance to improve their position ooc still. Ucf is outside but has a chance. Navy is a longer shot. The aac is the most likely conference to produce the ny6.

You may want to keep in mind that until the CFP rankings come out, we don't actually know who's ahead. The way I see it, USF is behind both Memphis and SDSU.

(09-17-2017 10:14 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:54 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:10 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 08:55 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 06:36 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Stanford WAS ranked (19). I hate to admit it but SDSU is easily the front runner right now. USFs schedule is horrendous. Memphis has the best chance in the AAC.

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What in the world does USF schedule have to do with anything? You have to be A CONFERENCE CHAMPION to go to the NY6 bowl. If USF wins the AAC, they go.

The conference champion with the best resume will make the NY6 bowl. Currently USF has not done much resume building, rather they're riding preseason hype. Yall may indeed be the best team in this conference, but yall are going to be very dependent on how teams like Memphis, UH, and UCF do, if yall are going to make the NY6 bowl. Because right now SDSU is putting themselves in a very good position.

And sdsu is done, there are no more resume building wins for them, other than possibly boise. Despite that usf is still ahead. Its usf's bid till they lose.

Sdsu and memphis are behind but in good position. Houston and toledo have the best chance to improve their position ooc still. Ucf is outside but has a chance. Navy is a longer shot. The aac is the most likely conference to produce the ny6.

You may want to keep in mind that until the CFP rankings come out, we don't actually know who's ahead. The way I see it, USF is behind both Memphis and SDSU.

Yes because a team behind in both polls will some how magically be ranked ahead. . .

Thats just bad logic right there.

(09-17-2017 10:27 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 10:14 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:54 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:10 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 08:55 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  What in the world does USF schedule have to do with anything? You have to be A CONFERENCE CHAMPION to go to the NY6 bowl. If USF wins the AAC, they go.

The conference champion with the best resume will make the NY6 bowl. Currently USF has not done much resume building, rather they're riding preseason hype. Yall may indeed be the best team in this conference, but yall are going to be very dependent on how teams like Memphis, UH, and UCF do, if yall are going to make the NY6 bowl. Because right now SDSU is putting themselves in a very good position.

And sdsu is done, there are no more resume building wins for them, other than possibly boise. Despite that usf is still ahead. Its usf's bid till they lose.

Sdsu and memphis are behind but in good position. Houston and toledo have the best chance to improve their position ooc still. Ucf is outside but has a chance. Navy is a longer shot. The aac is the most likely conference to produce the ny6.

You may want to keep in mind that until the CFP rankings come out, we don't actually know who's ahead. The way I see it, USF is behind both Memphis and SDSU.

Yes because a team behind in both polls will some how magically be ranked ahead. . .

Thats just bad logic right there.

Its the cfp we have literally seen dumber stuff than that.... would you really be all that surprised?

(09-17-2017 10:27 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 10:14 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:54 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:10 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 08:55 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  What in the world does USF schedule have to do with anything? You have to be A CONFERENCE CHAMPION to go to the NY6 bowl. If USF wins the AAC, they go.

The conference champion with the best resume will make the NY6 bowl. Currently USF has not done much resume building, rather they're riding preseason hype. Yall may indeed be the best team in this conference, but yall are going to be very dependent on how teams like Memphis, UH, and UCF do, if yall are going to make the NY6 bowl. Because right now SDSU is putting themselves in a very good position.

And sdsu is done, there are no more resume building wins for them, other than possibly boise. Despite that usf is still ahead. Its usf's bid till they lose.

Sdsu and memphis are behind but in good position. Houston and toledo have the best chance to improve their position ooc still. Ucf is outside but has a chance. Navy is a longer shot. The aac is the most likely conference to produce the ny6.

You may want to keep in mind that until the CFP rankings come out, we don't actually know who's ahead. The way I see it, USF is behind both Memphis and SDSU.

Yes because a team behind in both polls will some how magically be ranked ahead. . .

Thats just bad logic right there.

In 2015 UH was ranked #18 in the AP poll in week 10. That was also the first week the CFP rankings were put out. They had us at #25. The same thing happened to WMU last year. They were ranked #17 in the AP poll the same week the CFP rankings debuted. They had them at #23.

Edit: Its worth mentioning that UH was ranked ahead of Temple and Toledo in both the AP and Coaches Poll that week, but ended up behind them in the CFP rankings. So in a sense those teams magically ended up ranked ahead of us.

FYI, if a G5 team ever made the CFP, the G5 NY6 spot is no longer guaranteed, for that season.

To whom it may concern. If an AAC team wins the CCG with a 13-0 record, it WILL get the NY6 slot, assuming no CFP slot.

(09-17-2017 07:27 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  This is a fun debate, but it's only week 3 so not worried about it. It will shake out later. Both USF and SDSU may lose a couple games and someone like a Navy or Houston may be in the lead later. USF is still 8 spots ahead of SDSU in the coaches poll though. SDSU better be careful at AFA this week, that could be a trap game for them. And, honestly, I don't see them beating Boise twice this year. Once in regular season and once in champ game.

Rocky Long coached Aztecs teams have never lost to AFA. Have you watched Boise play this year? They are good, but we will make their offense look average, just like we make every offense look average.

(09-18-2017 06:53 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 07:27 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  This is a fun debate, but it's only week 3 so not worried about it. It will shake out later. Both USF and SDSU may lose a couple games and someone like a Navy or Houston may be in the lead later. USF is still 8 spots ahead of SDSU in the coaches poll though. SDSU better be careful at AFA this week, that could be a trap game for them. And, honestly, I don't see them beating Boise twice this year. Once in regular season and once in champ game.

Rocky Long coached Aztecs teams have never lost to AFA. Have you watched Boise play this year? They are good, but we will make their offense look average, just like we make every offense look average.

I bet you wouldn't make the Memphis offense look average. Or the UCLA offense.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...pdated-new

"I’m sticking with USF as the mid-major champion autobid, even though San Diego State just beat Stanford and Memphis just beat UCLA. USF’s schedule still sets up for an unbeaten run, while the other two have tougher roads, but it’s a close pick. As the committee showed by taking WMU last year, unbeaten against a weak schedule still tops a good record against a decent schedule."

Apparently, SB Nation thinks that USF has a weaker remaining schedule than both SDSU and Memphis.