UMKC task force looking at appropriate Divisional membership and conference membership or whether intercollegiate athletics is a good fit for them at all.
http://info.umkc.edu/unews/athletics-tas...ue-report/

Think you can rule Division III out there just aren't many Division III in the region and most are small and private.

Figure they will look at either the Summit or less likely reclassification because there are some decent Division II options and some NAIA options that aren't as good of a fit.

Welcome back to the Summit League Roos.

It's a shame. They could certainly carve a niche in Kansas City.

Think their intention is either the MVC or Horizon and they are just grandstanding for a conference change.

WAC needs to step up and invite Western Washington, Alaska, Alaska-Anchorage, Azusa Pacific, West Texas A&M, UC-San Diego and Colorado Mesa. We do not know how long New Mexico State will be there, Grand Canyon is looking away, Chicago State is all messed up. Any of those schools can replace any of those four that leaves.

(09-15-2017 04:00 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  UMKC task force looking at appropriate Divisional membership and conference membership or whether intercollegiate athletics is a good fit for them at all.
http://info.umkc.edu/unews/athletics-tas...ue-report/

Think you can rule Division III out there just aren't many Division III in the region and most are small and private.

Figure they will look at either the Summit or less likely reclassification because there are some decent Division II options and some NAIA options that aren't as good of a fit.

They would be an awfully large school for Division II.

(09-15-2017 07:14 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  WAC needs to step up and invite Western Washington, Alaska, Alaska-Anchorage, Azusa Pacific, West Texas A&M, UC-San Diego and Colorado Mesa. We do not know how long New Mexico State will be there, Grand Canyon is looking away, Chicago State is all messed up. Any of those schools can replace any of those four that leaves.

The Alaskas are struggling. UAA just dropped their long time basketball tournament. The Alaskas are staying where they are, though I think it'd be cool to see one in D-I and have a rep for all 50 states in Division I.

(09-15-2017 07:14 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  WAC needs to step up and invite Western Washington, Alaska, Alaska-Anchorage, Azusa Pacific, West Texas A&M, UC-San Diego and Colorado Mesa. We do not know how long New Mexico State will be there, Grand Canyon is looking away, Chicago State is all messed up. Any of those schools can replace any of those four that leaves.

The Alaska schools aren't moving to Division I, they are not able to afford the move.

Western Washington makes sense with Seattle in the WAC, but I haven't seen much interest from them. Honestly WWU having dropped football probably has soured any ambition or support.

UCSD is holding out for the Big West. Being a UC system school, they probably don't want to be associated with Grand Canyon.

I think Azusa Pacific is in after Cal Baptist completes its transition, unless if the Big Sky gets tired of being at an odd number.

West Texas A&M does nothing for the WAC, and will hold out for the Southland.

I haven't seen anything about Colorado Mesa wanting to go Division I, but it would make sense for the Big Sky to give Northern Colorado a real travel partner.

Honestly if anyone other than Chicago State hits the exits, the WAC really needs to go after Southern Utah or Northern Colorado. The Big Sky would love to make one of them a football-only member.

There just aren't enough parts left for the WAC to sponsor FCS football now that North Dakota is headed to the MVFC. The Big West football affiliates aren't leaving the Big West.

The WAC has probably already invited those schools. They can't force them to go D1.

UMKC sucks no matter what conference they're in. Locals do not care about them.

(09-15-2017 07:34 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-15-2017 04:00 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  UMKC task force looking at appropriate Divisional membership and conference membership or whether intercollegiate athletics is a good fit for them at all.
http://info.umkc.edu/unews/athletics-tas...ue-report/

Think you can rule Division III out there just aren't many Division III in the region and most are small and private.

Figure they will look at either the Summit or less likely reclassification because there are some decent Division II options and some NAIA options that aren't as good of a fit.

They would be an awfully large school for Division II.

They would fit fine in the MIAA size wise same size as Central Oklahoma, Central Missouri and Fort Hays State. They would be the same size as UMSL in the GLVC.

(09-15-2017 07:49 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  

(09-15-2017 07:14 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  WAC needs to step up and invite Western Washington, Alaska, Alaska-Anchorage, Azusa Pacific, West Texas A&M, UC-San Diego and Colorado Mesa. We do not know how long New Mexico State will be there, Grand Canyon is looking away, Chicago State is all messed up. Any of those schools can replace any of those four that leaves.

The Alaska schools aren't moving to Division I, they are not able to afford the move.

Western Washington makes sense with Seattle in the WAC, but I haven't seen much interest from them. Honestly WWU having dropped football probably has soured any ambition or support.

UCSD is holding out for the Big West. Being a UC system school, they probably don't want to be associated with Grand Canyon.

I think Azusa Pacific is in after Cal Baptist completes its transition, unless if the Big Sky gets tired of being at an odd number.

West Texas A&M does nothing for the WAC, and will hold out for the Southland.

I haven't seen anything about Colorado Mesa wanting to go Division I, but it would make sense for the Big Sky to give Northern Colorado a real travel partner.

Honestly if anyone other than Chicago State hits the exits, the WAC really needs to go after Southern Utah or Northern Colorado. The Big Sky would love to make one of them a football-only member.

There just aren't enough parts left for the WAC to sponsor FCS football now that North Dakota is headed to the MVFC. The Big West football affiliates aren't leaving the Big West.

It amazes me that hasn't happened yet. More opportunities to be successful in WAC Olympics than the Big Sky. Who wants to play in a 14 team 1 bid league?

The MIAA frowns on football-less DII schools. UMKC admin consider themselves better than the MIAA or GLVC schools anyway. They have a med school and want to broadcast that, and DII isn't the way to do that. This is all a roos to change conferences and do DI athletics cheaper to maximize the PR value.

(09-15-2017 07:14 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  WAC needs to step up and invite Western Washington, Alaska, Alaska-Anchorage, Azusa Pacific, West Texas A&M, UC-San Diego and Colorado Mesa. We do not know how long New Mexico State will be there, Grand Canyon is looking away, Chicago State is all messed up. Any of those schools can replace any of those four that leaves.

STOP! How many times has it been said that some of those schools have either no desire, no support, or no financial ability for D1.

(09-15-2017 04:08 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  It's a shame. They could certainly carve a niche in Kansas City.

They will break through one day.

(09-15-2017 07:34 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-15-2017 04:00 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  UMKC task force looking at appropriate Divisional membership and conference membership or whether intercollegiate athletics is a good fit for them at all.
http://info.umkc.edu/unews/athletics-tas...ue-report/

Think you can rule Division III out there just aren't many Division III in the region and most are small and private.

Figure they will look at either the Summit or less likely reclassification because there are some decent Division II options and some NAIA options that aren't as good of a fit.

They would be an awfully large school for Division II.

In the unlikely (in my opinion) chance they were to go Division II they would be like 5th largest. Heartland would be a decent fit if MIAA passed because of football.

UMKC ever finds success they could do well in the market with the right marketing

(09-16-2017 12:20 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-15-2017 07:34 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-15-2017 04:00 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  UMKC task force looking at appropriate Divisional membership and conference membership or whether intercollegiate athletics is a good fit for them at all.
http://info.umkc.edu/unews/athletics-tas...ue-report/

Think you can rule Division III out there just aren't many Division III in the region and most are small and private.

Figure they will look at either the Summit or less likely reclassification because there are some decent Division II options and some NAIA options that aren't as good of a fit.

They would be an awfully large school for Division II.

In the unlikely (in my opinion) chance they were to go Division II they would be like 5th largest. Heartland would be a decent fit if MIAA passed because of football.

UMKC ever finds success they could do well in the market with the right marketing

Heartland doesn't have any schools left in it. All of them except Newman went to the LSC. Newman is looking for a life raft.

(09-16-2017 12:20 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-15-2017 07:34 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-15-2017 04:00 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  UMKC task force looking at appropriate Divisional membership and conference membership or whether intercollegiate athletics is a good fit for them at all.
http://info.umkc.edu/unews/athletics-tas...ue-report/

Think you can rule Division III out there just aren't many Division III in the region and most are small and private.

Figure they will look at either the Summit or less likely reclassification because there are some decent Division II options and some NAIA options that aren't as good of a fit.

They would be an awfully large school for Division II.

In the unlikely (in my opinion) chance they were to go Division II they would be like 5th largest. Heartland would be a decent fit if MIAA passed because of football.

UMKC ever finds success they could do well in the market with the right marketing

Newman in Kansas is the only school left in The Heartland after a few years. The other schools are leaving as a merger with The Lone Star Conference.

(09-16-2017 01:12 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-16-2017 12:20 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-15-2017 07:34 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-15-2017 04:00 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  UMKC task force looking at appropriate Divisional membership and conference membership or whether intercollegiate athletics is a good fit for them at all.
http://info.umkc.edu/unews/athletics-tas...ue-report/

Think you can rule Division III out there just aren't many Division III in the region and most are small and private.

Figure they will look at either the Summit or less likely reclassification because there are some decent Division II options and some NAIA options that aren't as good of a fit.

They would be an awfully large school for Division II.

In the unlikely (in my opinion) chance they were to go Division II they would be like 5th largest. Heartland would be a decent fit if MIAA passed because of football.

UMKC ever finds success they could do well in the market with the right marketing

Newman in Kansas is the only school left in The Heartland after a few years. The other schools are leaving as a merger with The Lone Star Conference.

Why did they leave behind Newman?

(09-15-2017 04:12 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Think their intention is either the MVC or Horizon and they are just grandstanding for a conference change.

Grandstanding or otherwise, that's not a good sign they intend on staying in the WAC.

(09-16-2017 10:40 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(09-16-2017 01:12 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-16-2017 12:20 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-15-2017 07:34 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-15-2017 04:00 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  UMKC task force looking at appropriate Divisional membership and conference membership or whether intercollegiate athletics is a good fit for them at all.
http://info.umkc.edu/unews/athletics-tas...ue-report/

Think you can rule Division III out there just aren't many Division III in the region and most are small and private.

Figure they will look at either the Summit or less likely reclassification because there are some decent Division II options and some NAIA options that aren't as good of a fit.

They would be an awfully large school for Division II.

In the unlikely (in my opinion) chance they were to go Division II they would be like 5th largest. Heartland would be a decent fit if MIAA passed because of football.

UMKC ever finds success they could do well in the market with the right marketing

Newman in Kansas is the only school left in The Heartland after a few years. The other schools are leaving as a merger with The Lone Star Conference.

Why did they leave behind Newman?

It is actually not a merger. Newman was already looking elsewhere, they have been having concerns about travel and missed class time.