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RE: Is it time to disband C-USA?
(09-15-2017 04:18 PM)WKUYG Wrote: Here's a ideal, instead of making this topic 3 or 4 times a year why don't S.Miss fans get together and asked their AD and president ....
why they are in a conference with low life's
I will beat 95% of the fans complaining never asked this question to someone that knows the answer to it. Why? most likely they are afraid of the answer they get. Without someone flat out saying it to their face. They have the internet to ***** and complain about.
This conference is not keeping any of us from winning. In any sport. It's not keeping any of us from a at large bid in basketball. It might make that more difficult but not any more than any of the conference make up that fans put together.
It's not the conference that made S. Miss a bad football program for 3.5 out of the last 5 seasons. S. Miss went 0-12 while every school they want to be in the same conference with...was in CUSA
Not one of the new schools in this conference caused S. Miss to go 7-6, 7-6, 7-6 for 3 years before going 12-2 and 0-12. S. Miss did that all by their self.
Not one school in this conference or the conference it self caused S. Miss to go 9-20, 8-21, 9-22 in basketball over the last 3 years. S. Miss did that on their on...by hiring a coach that cheated.
You might say the rest of us are paying for S. Miss's bad choices a helluva lot more than us holding them back.
If you really want to know what a trueful AD and President would tell those S. Miss fans if they had the guts to ask, why?. Let me tell you what is the most likely answer to that question.
We suck at basketball and right now there is no hope of getting better in the near future. Like, the next 5 or so years. If ever.
We have a really good baseball program but lets be honest. That doesn't get you into another conference. It's probably the 4th sport in a list on important.
We use to be good in football but you really have to look at what the "use to" means.
We had 2...TWO (1988 and 2011), 10 or more wins in a season in the past 55 years.
In the last 20 S. Miss finished ranked, twice and 3 times in the last 55 years.
While we went 18 years without a losing record 10 of those were 7 or less wins and only 4 with 9 wins and 1 with 12.
While that is still better than most everyone that moved on it's not like we were a national program. Those schools that did move on had something to offer to offset their weakness. S. Miss didn't, still don't and most likely never will....
you can't change location
Its going to be near impossible to grow a budget to compete in another conference. Even if we sold out the stadium on all 6 games we are just looking at another 1.2 million or so at $25 a ticket
Right now even if a spot opened there are other schools that have passed S. Miss in football and those schools also have better basketball programs. They also have more money. Some even have location to offer.
So you tell me what I should do? Are you fans willing to kick in another $1000 each on season tickets because that is the only way S. Miss has to grow a budget that can compete in all sports with those that moved on. Are you willing to put your money with your words with the hope one day a spot opens. Can't wait till that day. Now shut the **** up! Well I doubt if he said that...but you know that's what both are thinking
thanks for your research. without addressing each of your comments, ill just say this;
irrespective of anything you just typed, this conference and its members are all terrible and an embarrassment and beneath USM. we should go independent and let y'all play patty cakes together, without us.
*somehow, no offense to charlotte, old dominion, utsa, marshall and a couple others. i've grow to not like west kentucky or la tech fans though. i know i (and some other USM fans) seem like arrogant jerks, but at least we have a historical record that made us feel this way about the current state of CUSA. westard kentucky and la tech have never made a difference in football and never will.
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RE: Is it time to disband C-USA?
(09-15-2017 04:29 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote: (09-15-2017 04:18 PM)WKUYG Wrote: Here's a ideal, instead of making this topic 3 or 4 times a year why don't S.Miss fans get together and asked their AD and president ....
why they are in a conference with low life's
I will beat 95% of the fans complaining never asked this question to someone that knows the answer to it. Why? most likely they are afraid of the answer they get. Without someone flat out saying it to their face. They have the internet to ***** and complain about.
This conference is not keeping any of us from winning. In any sport. It's not keeping any of us from a at large bid in basketball. It might make that more difficult but not any more than any of the conference make up that fans put together.
It's not the conference that made S. Miss a bad football program for 3.5 out of the last 5 seasons. S. Miss went 0-12 while every school they want to be in the same conference with...was in CUSA
Not one of the new schools in this conference caused S. Miss to go 7-6, 7-6, 7-6 for 3 years before going 12-2 and 0-12. S. Miss did that all by their self.
Not one school in this conference or the conference it self caused S. Miss to go 9-20, 8-21, 9-22 in basketball over the last 3 years. S. Miss did that on their on...by hiring a coach that cheated.
You might say the rest of us are paying for S. Miss's bad choices a helluva lot more than us holding them back.
If you really want to know what a trueful AD and President would tell those S. Miss fans if they had the guts to ask, why?. Let me tell you what is the most likely answer to that question.
We suck at basketball and right now there is no hope of getting better in the near future. Like, the next 5 or so years. If ever.
We have a really good baseball program but lets be honest. That doesn't get you into another conference. It's probably the 4th sport in a list on important.
We use to be good in football but you really have to look at what the "use to" means.
We had 2...TWO (1988 and 2011), 10 or more wins in a season in the past 55 years.
In the last 20 S. Miss finished ranked, twice and 3 times in the last 55 years.
While we went 18 years without a losing record 10 of those were 7 or less wins and only 4 with 9 wins and 1 with 12.
While that is still better than most everyone that moved on it's not like we were a national program. Those schools that did move on had something to offer to offset their weakness. S. Miss didn't, still don't and most likely never will....
you can't change location
Its going to be near impossible to grow a budget to compete in another conference. Even if we sold out the stadium on all 6 games we are just looking at another 1.2 million or so at $25 a ticket
Right now even if a spot opened there are other schools that have passed S. Miss in football and those schools also have better basketball programs. They also have more money. Some even have location to offer.
So you tell me what I should do? Are you fans willing to kick in another $1000 each on season tickets because that is the only way S. Miss has to grow a budget that can compete in all sports with those that moved on. Are you willing to put your money with your words with the hope one day a spot opens. Can't wait till that day. Now shut the **** up! Well I doubt if he said that...but you know that's what both are thinking
thanks for your research. without addressing each of your comments, ill just say this;
irrespective of anything you just typed, this conference and its members are all terrible and an embarrassment and beneath USM. we should go independent and let y'all play patty cakes together, without us.
*somehow, no offense to charlotte, old dominion, utsa, marshall and a couple others. i've grow to not like west kentucky or la tech fans though. i know i (and some other USM fans) seem like arrogant jerks, but at least we have a historical record that made us feel this way about the current state of CUSA. westard kentucky and la tech have never made a difference in football and never will.
You are going to have your opinions on other schools in this conference. That's what fans do. They look for reasons to blame others. They do this because other wise they have to face the real problem...
If you truly believe going indy is the best move then you need to get enough S. Miss fans that believe the same to go talk to the president or AD. Threaten to withhold money.
If you get enough fans or fans that donate enough money to the school...they will listen. But like I said....
you don't have the balls or influence. So like most people with small balls..they blame others for their 'short comings'
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RE: Is it time to disband C-USA?
(09-15-2017 04:18 PM)WKUYG Wrote: Here's a ideal, instead of making this topic 3 or 4 times a year why don't S.Miss fans get together and asked their AD and president ....
why they are in a conference with low life's
I will beat 95% of the fans complaining never asked this question to someone that knows the answer to it. Why? most likely they are afraid of the answer they get. Without someone flat out saying it to their face. They have the internet to ***** and complain about.
This conference is not keeping any of us from winning. In any sport. It's not keeping any of us from a at large bid in basketball. It might make that more difficult but not any more than any of the conference make up that fans put together.
It's not the conference that made S. Miss a bad football program for 3.5 out of the last 5 seasons. S. Miss went 0-12 while every school they want to be in the same conference with...was in CUSA
Not one of the new schools in this conference caused S. Miss to go 7-6, 7-6, 7-6 for 3 years before going 12-2 and 0-12. S. Miss did that all by their self.
Not one school in this conference or the conference it self caused S. Miss to go 9-20, 8-21, 9-22 in basketball over the last 3 years. S. Miss did that on their on...by hiring a coach that cheated.
You might say the rest of us are paying for S. Miss's bad choices a helluva lot more than us holding them back.
If you really want to know what a trueful AD and President would tell those S. Miss fans if they had the guts to ask, why?. Let me tell you what is the most likely answer to that question.
We suck at basketball and right now there is no hope of getting better in the near future. Like, the next 5 or so years. If ever.
We have a really good baseball program but lets be honest. That doesn't get you into another conference. It's probably the 4th sport in a list on important.
We use to be good in football but you really have to look at what the "use to" means.
We had 2...TWO (1988 and 2011), 10 or more wins in a season in the past 55 years.
In the last 20 S. Miss finished ranked, twice and 3 times in the last 55 years.
While we went 18 years without a losing record 10 of those were 7 or less wins and only 4 with 9 wins and 1 with 12.
While that is still better than most everyone that moved on it's not like we were a national program. Those schools that did move on had something to offer to offset their weakness. S. Miss didn't, still don't and most likely never will....
you can't change location
Its going to be near impossible to grow a budget to compete in another conference. Even if we sold out the stadium on all 6 games we are just looking at another 1.2 million or so at $25 a ticket
Right now even if a spot opened there are other schools that have passed S. Miss in football and those schools also have better basketball programs. They also have more money. Some even have location to offer.
So you tell me what I should do? Are you fans willing to kick in another $1000 each on season tickets because that is the only way S. Miss has to grow a budget that can compete in all sports with those that moved on. Are you willing to put your money with your words with the hope one day a spot opens. Can't wait till that day. Now shut the **** up! Well I doubt if he said that...but you know that's what both are thinking
Well, actually that question has been asked of the President and AD frequently. The answer has been that CUSA is where we are but it is not our destination.
Even with the horror that was ELLLLLLLLLLLLoss in 2012, and its effects in 2013 and 2014, more SEC, ACC and Big 12 fans would know and have more respect for USM than any other team in this conference. And yes that is based upon tradition, which is what every school's reputation is based upon. Sorry, but the next three that those same fans recognize would probably be Rice LaTech and Marshall. What do I base that on? Asking their fans when I see them.
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RE: Is it time to disband C-USA?
(09-15-2017 10:02 AM)Dawgxas Wrote: Too many teams were invited, I can agree with that. But Under the CFP there's chance to earn 25 million, can't just give that up
You think a G5 team will ever get invited to the play offs?
Unless the format is changed so that the conference winner gets a bid, i doubt any G5 will ever be considered never mind actually be invited. System is too corrupt.
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Reggie Favre
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RE: Is it time to disband C-USA?
(09-15-2017 04:42 PM)WKUYG Wrote: (09-15-2017 04:29 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote: (09-15-2017 04:18 PM)WKUYG Wrote: Here's a ideal, instead of making this topic 3 or 4 times a year why don't S.Miss fans get together and asked their AD and president ....
why they are in a conference with low life's
I will beat 95% of the fans complaining never asked this question to someone that knows the answer to it. Why? most likely they are afraid of the answer they get. Without someone flat out saying it to their face. They have the internet to ***** and complain about.
This conference is not keeping any of us from winning. In any sport. It's not keeping any of us from a at large bid in basketball. It might make that more difficult but not any more than any of the conference make up that fans put together.
It's not the conference that made S. Miss a bad football program for 3.5 out of the last 5 seasons. S. Miss went 0-12 while every school they want to be in the same conference with...was in CUSA
Not one of the new schools in this conference caused S. Miss to go 7-6, 7-6, 7-6 for 3 years before going 12-2 and 0-12. S. Miss did that all by their self.
Not one school in this conference or the conference it self caused S. Miss to go 9-20, 8-21, 9-22 in basketball over the last 3 years. S. Miss did that on their on...by hiring a coach that cheated.
You might say the rest of us are paying for S. Miss's bad choices a helluva lot more than us holding them back.
If you really want to know what a trueful AD and President would tell those S. Miss fans if they had the guts to ask, why?. Let me tell you what is the most likely answer to that question.
We suck at basketball and right now there is no hope of getting better in the near future. Like, the next 5 or so years. If ever.
We have a really good baseball program but lets be honest. That doesn't get you into another conference. It's probably the 4th sport in a list on important.
We use to be good in football but you really have to look at what the "use to" means.
We had 2...TWO (1988 and 2011), 10 or more wins in a season in the past 55 years.
In the last 20 S. Miss finished ranked, twice and 3 times in the last 55 years.
While we went 18 years without a losing record 10 of those were 7 or less wins and only 4 with 9 wins and 1 with 12.
While that is still better than most everyone that moved on it's not like we were a national program. Those schools that did move on had something to offer to offset their weakness. S. Miss didn't, still don't and most likely never will....
you can't change location
Its going to be near impossible to grow a budget to compete in another conference. Even if we sold out the stadium on all 6 games we are just looking at another 1.2 million or so at $25 a ticket
Right now even if a spot opened there are other schools that have passed S. Miss in football and those schools also have better basketball programs. They also have more money. Some even have location to offer.
So you tell me what I should do? Are you fans willing to kick in another $1000 each on season tickets because that is the only way S. Miss has to grow a budget that can compete in all sports with those that moved on. Are you willing to put your money with your words with the hope one day a spot opens. Can't wait till that day. Now shut the **** up! Well I doubt if he said that...but you know that's what both are thinking
thanks for your research. without addressing each of your comments, ill just say this;
irrespective of anything you just typed, this conference and its members are all terrible and an embarrassment and beneath USM. we should go independent and let y'all play patty cakes together, without us.
*somehow, no offense to charlotte, old dominion, utsa, marshall and a couple others. i've grow to not like west kentucky or la tech fans though. i know i (and some other USM fans) seem like arrogant jerks, but at least we have a historical record that made us feel this way about the current state of CUSA. westard kentucky and la tech have never made a difference in football and never will.
You are going to have your opinions on other schools in this conference. That's what fans do. They look for reasons to blame others. They do this because other wise they have to face the real problem...
If you truly believe going indy is the best move then you need to get enough S. Miss fans that believe the same to go talk to the president or AD. Threaten to withhold money.
If you get enough fans or fans that donate enough money to the school...they will listen. But like I said....
you don't have the balls or influence. So like most people with small balls..they blame others for their 'short comings'
so bc my balls are small and not influential, USM will never get out of CUSA? ok, got it. thanks for your input.
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RE: Is it time to disband C-USA?
(09-15-2017 04:45 PM)PaulDel2 Wrote: (09-15-2017 04:18 PM)WKUYG Wrote: Here's a ideal, instead of making this topic 3 or 4 times a year why don't S.Miss fans get together and asked their AD and president ....
why they are in a conference with low life's
I will beat 95% of the fans complaining never asked this question to someone that knows the answer to it. Why? most likely they are afraid of the answer they get. Without someone flat out saying it to their face. They have the internet to ***** and complain about.
This conference is not keeping any of us from winning. In any sport. It's not keeping any of us from a at large bid in basketball. It might make that more difficult but not any more than any of the conference make up that fans put together.
It's not the conference that made S. Miss a bad football program for 3.5 out of the last 5 seasons. S. Miss went 0-12 while every school they want to be in the same conference with...was in CUSA
Not one of the new schools in this conference caused S. Miss to go 7-6, 7-6, 7-6 for 3 years before going 12-2 and 0-12. S. Miss did that all by their self.
Not one school in this conference or the conference it self caused S. Miss to go 9-20, 8-21, 9-22 in basketball over the last 3 years. S. Miss did that on their on...by hiring a coach that cheated.
You might say the rest of us are paying for S. Miss's bad choices a helluva lot more than us holding them back.
If you really want to know what a trueful AD and President would tell those S. Miss fans if they had the guts to ask, why?. Let me tell you what is the most likely answer to that question.
We suck at basketball and right now there is no hope of getting better in the near future. Like, the next 5 or so years. If ever.
We have a really good baseball program but lets be honest. That doesn't get you into another conference. It's probably the 4th sport in a list on important.
We use to be good in football but you really have to look at what the "use to" means.
We had 2...TWO (1988 and 2011), 10 or more wins in a season in the past 55 years.
In the last 20 S. Miss finished ranked, twice and 3 times in the last 55 years.
While we went 18 years without a losing record 10 of those were 7 or less wins and only 4 with 9 wins and 1 with 12.
While that is still better than most everyone that moved on it's not like we were a national program. Those schools that did move on had something to offer to offset their weakness. S. Miss didn't, still don't and most likely never will....
you can't change location
Its going to be near impossible to grow a budget to compete in another conference. Even if we sold out the stadium on all 6 games we are just looking at another 1.2 million or so at $25 a ticket
Right now even if a spot opened there are other schools that have passed S. Miss in football and those schools also have better basketball programs. They also have more money. Some even have location to offer.
So you tell me what I should do? Are you fans willing to kick in another $1000 each on season tickets because that is the only way S. Miss has to grow a budget that can compete in all sports with those that moved on. Are you willing to put your money with your words with the hope one day a spot opens. Can't wait till that day. Now shut the **** up! Well I doubt if he said that...but you know that's what both are thinking
Well, actually that question has been asked of the President and AD frequently. The answer has been that CUSA is where we are but it is not our destination.
Even with the horror that was ELLLLLLLLLLLLoss in 2012, and its effects in 2013 and 2014, more SEC, ACC and Big 12 fans would know and have more respect for USM than any other team in this conference. And yes that is based upon tradition, which is what every school's reputation is based upon. Sorry, but the next three that those same fans recognize would probably be Rice LaTech and Marshall. What do I base that on? Asking their fans when I see them.
Of course S. Miss and those other schools have tradition those teams have played longer.
But that's where pride gets in the way of logic when you try to just use tradition over results. Wins matter. As far as SEC schools respecting S. Miss...they write S. MISS a check just like they do the rest of us. That's not respect.
If we just used Tradition S. Miss would have never been in the Metro to begin with. OTHER things are just important, if not more.
If it was just about tradition Western would have been in the A-10 back before we moved to FBS. And before that the Metro conference...S. Miss cannot carry Western's jock strap when it comes to basketball, tradition. Western's basketball tradition is unmatched in this conference and by 85% of college basketball.
Just like S. Miss, Western failed to build...wins, when it mattered
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09-15-2017 04:56 PM |
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RE: Is it time to disband C-USA?
My original post here wasn't to belittle any of our conference brethren. Do Southern Miss fans struggle with getting excited about C-USA? Sure. But we had trouble getting excited about the old C-USA too. Joining the AAC might solve a few financial issues but perception issues are the same. They get no piece of the big cake either. Since that's not even an option it seems like the best option is to cut expenses where we can. That means becoming a more tight knit geographical conference. Cut these travel expenses. This would also allow for the creation of better regional rivalries.
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Reggie Favre
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RE: Is it time to disband C-USA?
(09-15-2017 04:56 PM)WKUYG Wrote: (09-15-2017 04:45 PM)PaulDel2 Wrote: (09-15-2017 04:18 PM)WKUYG Wrote: Here's a ideal, instead of making this topic 3 or 4 times a year why don't S.Miss fans get together and asked their AD and president ....
why they are in a conference with low life's
I will beat 95% of the fans complaining never asked this question to someone that knows the answer to it. Why? most likely they are afraid of the answer they get. Without someone flat out saying it to their face. They have the internet to ***** and complain about.
This conference is not keeping any of us from winning. In any sport. It's not keeping any of us from a at large bid in basketball. It might make that more difficult but not any more than any of the conference make up that fans put together.
It's not the conference that made S. Miss a bad football program for 3.5 out of the last 5 seasons. S. Miss went 0-12 while every school they want to be in the same conference with...was in CUSA
Not one of the new schools in this conference caused S. Miss to go 7-6, 7-6, 7-6 for 3 years before going 12-2 and 0-12. S. Miss did that all by their self.
Not one school in this conference or the conference it self caused S. Miss to go 9-20, 8-21, 9-22 in basketball over the last 3 years. S. Miss did that on their on...by hiring a coach that cheated.
You might say the rest of us are paying for S. Miss's bad choices a helluva lot more than us holding them back.
If you really want to know what a trueful AD and President would tell those S. Miss fans if they had the guts to ask, why?. Let me tell you what is the most likely answer to that question.
We suck at basketball and right now there is no hope of getting better in the near future. Like, the next 5 or so years. If ever.
We have a really good baseball program but lets be honest. That doesn't get you into another conference. It's probably the 4th sport in a list on important.
We use to be good in football but you really have to look at what the "use to" means.
We had 2...TWO (1988 and 2011), 10 or more wins in a season in the past 55 years.
In the last 20 S. Miss finished ranked, twice and 3 times in the last 55 years.
While we went 18 years without a losing record 10 of those were 7 or less wins and only 4 with 9 wins and 1 with 12.
While that is still better than most everyone that moved on it's not like we were a national program. Those schools that did move on had something to offer to offset their weakness. S. Miss didn't, still don't and most likely never will....
you can't change location
Its going to be near impossible to grow a budget to compete in another conference. Even if we sold out the stadium on all 6 games we are just looking at another 1.2 million or so at $25 a ticket
Right now even if a spot opened there are other schools that have passed S. Miss in football and those schools also have better basketball programs. They also have more money. Some even have location to offer.
So you tell me what I should do? Are you fans willing to kick in another $1000 each on season tickets because that is the only way S. Miss has to grow a budget that can compete in all sports with those that moved on. Are you willing to put your money with your words with the hope one day a spot opens. Can't wait till that day. Now shut the **** up! Well I doubt if he said that...but you know that's what both are thinking
Well, actually that question has been asked of the President and AD frequently. The answer has been that CUSA is where we are but it is not our destination.
Even with the horror that was ELLLLLLLLLLLLoss in 2012, and its effects in 2013 and 2014, more SEC, ACC and Big 12 fans would know and have more respect for USM than any other team in this conference. And yes that is based upon tradition, which is what every school's reputation is based upon. Sorry, but the next three that those same fans recognize would probably be Rice LaTech and Marshall. What do I base that on? Asking their fans when I see them.
Wins matter
this is where you miss the whole picture. sadly, wins didnt mean spit, when Cusa started getting robbed. theres not one team in the AAC (including louisville) that have beaten USM more than USM has beaten them (ok, except tulsa 3-4-1). the "move up" had nothing to do with "wins". so you swing and miss at everything right there. and THAT is why USM fans are chapped. we beat those teams like a drum for 50 years and we are stuck with westard kentucky, based on false logic by the TV networks.
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RE: Is it time to disband C-USA?
(09-15-2017 12:54 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote: East: WKU, MTSU, Marshall, App, UAB, Georgia Southern
West: USA, USM, ULL, LaTech, Arkansas State, Rice
MWC invites UTEP and UTSA which triggers a new league.. Leftovers from CUSA and SB make a new league spanning from Norfolk to Denton.
I think App and Ga Southern would make fine additions, but not at the expense of not including ODU.
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RE: Is it time to disband C-USA?
(09-15-2017 05:05 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote: (09-15-2017 04:56 PM)WKUYG Wrote: (09-15-2017 04:45 PM)PaulDel2 Wrote: (09-15-2017 04:18 PM)WKUYG Wrote: Here's a ideal, instead of making this topic 3 or 4 times a year why don't S.Miss fans get together and asked their AD and president ....
why they are in a conference with low life's
I will beat 95% of the fans complaining never asked this question to someone that knows the answer to it. Why? most likely they are afraid of the answer they get. Without someone flat out saying it to their face. They have the internet to ***** and complain about.
This conference is not keeping any of us from winning. In any sport. It's not keeping any of us from a at large bid in basketball. It might make that more difficult but not any more than any of the conference make up that fans put together.
It's not the conference that made S. Miss a bad football program for 3.5 out of the last 5 seasons. S. Miss went 0-12 while every school they want to be in the same conference with...was in CUSA
Not one of the new schools in this conference caused S. Miss to go 7-6, 7-6, 7-6 for 3 years before going 12-2 and 0-12. S. Miss did that all by their self.
Not one school in this conference or the conference it self caused S. Miss to go 9-20, 8-21, 9-22 in basketball over the last 3 years. S. Miss did that on their on...by hiring a coach that cheated.
You might say the rest of us are paying for S. Miss's bad choices a helluva lot more than us holding them back.
If you really want to know what a trueful AD and President would tell those S. Miss fans if they had the guts to ask, why?. Let me tell you what is the most likely answer to that question.
We suck at basketball and right now there is no hope of getting better in the near future. Like, the next 5 or so years. If ever.
We have a really good baseball program but lets be honest. That doesn't get you into another conference. It's probably the 4th sport in a list on important.
We use to be good in football but you really have to look at what the "use to" means.
We had 2...TWO (1988 and 2011), 10 or more wins in a season in the past 55 years.
In the last 20 S. Miss finished ranked, twice and 3 times in the last 55 years.
While we went 18 years without a losing record 10 of those were 7 or less wins and only 4 with 9 wins and 1 with 12.
While that is still better than most everyone that moved on it's not like we were a national program. Those schools that did move on had something to offer to offset their weakness. S. Miss didn't, still don't and most likely never will....
you can't change location
Its going to be near impossible to grow a budget to compete in another conference. Even if we sold out the stadium on all 6 games we are just looking at another 1.2 million or so at $25 a ticket
Right now even if a spot opened there are other schools that have passed S. Miss in football and those schools also have better basketball programs. They also have more money. Some even have location to offer.
So you tell me what I should do? Are you fans willing to kick in another $1000 each on season tickets because that is the only way S. Miss has to grow a budget that can compete in all sports with those that moved on. Are you willing to put your money with your words with the hope one day a spot opens. Can't wait till that day. Now shut the **** up! Well I doubt if he said that...but you know that's what both are thinking
Well, actually that question has been asked of the President and AD frequently. The answer has been that CUSA is where we are but it is not our destination.
Even with the horror that was ELLLLLLLLLLLLoss in 2012, and its effects in 2013 and 2014, more SEC, ACC and Big 12 fans would know and have more respect for USM than any other team in this conference. And yes that is based upon tradition, which is what every school's reputation is based upon. Sorry, but the next three that those same fans recognize would probably be Rice LaTech and Marshall. What do I base that on? Asking their fans when I see them.
Wins matter
this is where you miss the whole picture. sadly, wins didnt mean spit, when Cusa started getting robbed. theres not one team in the AAC (including louisville) that have beaten USM more than USM has beaten them (ok, except tulsa 3-4-1). the "move up" had nothing to do with "wins". so you swing and miss at everything right there. and THAT is why USM fans are chapped. we beat those teams like a drum for 50 years and we are stuck with westard kentucky, based on false logic by the TV networks.
If you are going to quote someone most of the time. No, all of the time, it's best to do that in the context of the post. Not just take two words out of it...below it putting that in context.
Quote:Of course S. Miss and those other schools have tradition those teams have played longer.
But that's where pride gets in the way of logic when you try to just use tradition over results. Wins matter. As far as SEC schools respecting S. Miss...they write S. MISS a check just like they do the rest of us. That's not respect.
If we just used Tradition S. Miss would have never been in the Metro to begin with. OTHER things are just important, if not more.
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RE: Is it time to disband C-USA?
(09-15-2017 05:14 PM)WKUYG Wrote: (09-15-2017 05:05 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote: (09-15-2017 04:56 PM)WKUYG Wrote: (09-15-2017 04:45 PM)PaulDel2 Wrote: (09-15-2017 04:18 PM)WKUYG Wrote: Here's a ideal, instead of making this topic 3 or 4 times a year why don't S.Miss fans get together and asked their AD and president ....
why they are in a conference with low life's
I will beat 95% of the fans complaining never asked this question to someone that knows the answer to it. Why? most likely they are afraid of the answer they get. Without someone flat out saying it to their face. They have the internet to ***** and complain about.
This conference is not keeping any of us from winning. In any sport. It's not keeping any of us from a at large bid in basketball. It might make that more difficult but not any more than any of the conference make up that fans put together.
It's not the conference that made S. Miss a bad football program for 3.5 out of the last 5 seasons. S. Miss went 0-12 while every school they want to be in the same conference with...was in CUSA
Not one of the new schools in this conference caused S. Miss to go 7-6, 7-6, 7-6 for 3 years before going 12-2 and 0-12. S. Miss did that all by their self.
Not one school in this conference or the conference it self caused S. Miss to go 9-20, 8-21, 9-22 in basketball over the last 3 years. S. Miss did that on their on...by hiring a coach that cheated.
You might say the rest of us are paying for S. Miss's bad choices a helluva lot more than us holding them back.
If you really want to know what a trueful AD and President would tell those S. Miss fans if they had the guts to ask, why?. Let me tell you what is the most likely answer to that question.
We suck at basketball and right now there is no hope of getting better in the near future. Like, the next 5 or so years. If ever.
We have a really good baseball program but lets be honest. That doesn't get you into another conference. It's probably the 4th sport in a list on important.
We use to be good in football but you really have to look at what the "use to" means.
We had 2...TWO (1988 and 2011), 10 or more wins in a season in the past 55 years.
In the last 20 S. Miss finished ranked, twice and 3 times in the last 55 years.
While we went 18 years without a losing record 10 of those were 7 or less wins and only 4 with 9 wins and 1 with 12.
While that is still better than most everyone that moved on it's not like we were a national program. Those schools that did move on had something to offer to offset their weakness. S. Miss didn't, still don't and most likely never will....
you can't change location
Its going to be near impossible to grow a budget to compete in another conference. Even if we sold out the stadium on all 6 games we are just looking at another 1.2 million or so at $25 a ticket
Right now even if a spot opened there are other schools that have passed S. Miss in football and those schools also have better basketball programs. They also have more money. Some even have location to offer.
So you tell me what I should do? Are you fans willing to kick in another $1000 each on season tickets because that is the only way S. Miss has to grow a budget that can compete in all sports with those that moved on. Are you willing to put your money with your words with the hope one day a spot opens. Can't wait till that day. Now shut the **** up! Well I doubt if he said that...but you know that's what both are thinking
Well, actually that question has been asked of the President and AD frequently. The answer has been that CUSA is where we are but it is not our destination.
Even with the horror that was ELLLLLLLLLLLLoss in 2012, and its effects in 2013 and 2014, more SEC, ACC and Big 12 fans would know and have more respect for USM than any other team in this conference. And yes that is based upon tradition, which is what every school's reputation is based upon. Sorry, but the next three that those same fans recognize would probably be Rice LaTech and Marshall. What do I base that on? Asking their fans when I see them.
Wins matter
this is where you miss the whole picture. sadly, wins didnt mean spit, when Cusa started getting robbed. theres not one team in the AAC (including louisville) that have beaten USM more than USM has beaten them (ok, except tulsa 3-4-1). the "move up" had nothing to do with "wins". so you swing and miss at everything right there. and THAT is why USM fans are chapped. we beat those teams like a drum for 50 years and we are stuck with westard kentucky, based on false logic by the TV networks.
If you are going to quote someone most of the time. No, all of the time, it's best to do that in the context of the post. Not just take two words out of it...below it putting that in context.
Quote:Of course S. Miss and those other schools have tradition those teams have played longer.
But that's where pride gets in the way of logic when you try to just use tradition over results. Wins matter. As far as SEC schools respecting S. Miss...they write S. MISS a check just like they do the rest of us. That's not respect.
If we just used Tradition S. Miss would have never been in the Metro to begin with. OTHER things are just important, if not more.
i can read. and you left off your other quote about wins. you suggested that "wins" is what matters when switching conferences. that is incorrect.
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RE: Is it time to disband C-USA?
(09-15-2017 05:05 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote: (09-15-2017 04:56 PM)WKUYG Wrote: (09-15-2017 04:45 PM)PaulDel2 Wrote: (09-15-2017 04:18 PM)WKUYG Wrote: Here's a ideal, instead of making this topic 3 or 4 times a year why don't S.Miss fans get together and asked their AD and president ....
why they are in a conference with low life's
I will beat 95% of the fans complaining never asked this question to someone that knows the answer to it. Why? most likely they are afraid of the answer they get. Without someone flat out saying it to their face. They have the internet to ***** and complain about.
This conference is not keeping any of us from winning. In any sport. It's not keeping any of us from a at large bid in basketball. It might make that more difficult but not any more than any of the conference make up that fans put together.
It's not the conference that made S. Miss a bad football program for 3.5 out of the last 5 seasons. S. Miss went 0-12 while every school they want to be in the same conference with...was in CUSA
Not one of the new schools in this conference caused S. Miss to go 7-6, 7-6, 7-6 for 3 years before going 12-2 and 0-12. S. Miss did that all by their self.
Not one school in this conference or the conference it self caused S. Miss to go 9-20, 8-21, 9-22 in basketball over the last 3 years. S. Miss did that on their on...by hiring a coach that cheated.
You might say the rest of us are paying for S. Miss's bad choices a helluva lot more than us holding them back.
If you really want to know what a trueful AD and President would tell those S. Miss fans if they had the guts to ask, why?. Let me tell you what is the most likely answer to that question.
We suck at basketball and right now there is no hope of getting better in the near future. Like, the next 5 or so years. If ever.
We have a really good baseball program but lets be honest. That doesn't get you into another conference. It's probably the 4th sport in a list on important.
We use to be good in football but you really have to look at what the "use to" means.
We had 2...TWO (1988 and 2011), 10 or more wins in a season in the past 55 years.
In the last 20 S. Miss finished ranked, twice and 3 times in the last 55 years.
While we went 18 years without a losing record 10 of those were 7 or less wins and only 4 with 9 wins and 1 with 12.
While that is still better than most everyone that moved on it's not like we were a national program. Those schools that did move on had something to offer to offset their weakness. S. Miss didn't, still don't and most likely never will....
you can't change location
Its going to be near impossible to grow a budget to compete in another conference. Even if we sold out the stadium on all 6 games we are just looking at another 1.2 million or so at $25 a ticket
Right now even if a spot opened there are other schools that have passed S. Miss in football and those schools also have better basketball programs. They also have more money. Some even have location to offer.
So you tell me what I should do? Are you fans willing to kick in another $1000 each on season tickets because that is the only way S. Miss has to grow a budget that can compete in all sports with those that moved on. Are you willing to put your money with your words with the hope one day a spot opens. Can't wait till that day. Now shut the **** up! Well I doubt if he said that...but you know that's what both are thinking
Well, actually that question has been asked of the President and AD frequently. The answer has been that CUSA is where we are but it is not our destination.
Even with the horror that was ELLLLLLLLLLLLoss in 2012, and its effects in 2013 and 2014, more SEC, ACC and Big 12 fans would know and have more respect for USM than any other team in this conference. And yes that is based upon tradition, which is what every school's reputation is based upon. Sorry, but the next three that those same fans recognize would probably be Rice LaTech and Marshall. What do I base that on? Asking their fans when I see them.
Wins matter
this is where you miss the whole picture. sadly, wins didnt mean spit, when Cusa started getting robbed. theres not one team in the AAC (including louisville) that have beaten USM more than USM has beaten them (ok, except tulsa 3-4-1). the "move up" had nothing to do with "wins". so you swing and miss at everything right there. and THAT is why USM fans are chapped. we beat those teams like a drum for 50 years and we are stuck with westard kentucky, based on false logic by the TV networks.
Jesus dude... you act like you're world beaters... you're 6-6 vs us...
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RE: Is it time to disband C-USA?
now, to try to get back to the point of the thread ;
yes, i think almost all schools in this conference could stand to benefit from dissolving this conference (as i've suggested in other threads). i certainly think USM would. why? bc what benefit is this conference giving the schools? heck, it cost an arm and a leg to travel across the country (think other sports too, not just football), yet we get $200k from the conference tv contract!? thats a joke! other schools get $35,000,000 or so a year. my point, is not that we should get $10,000,000 a year, its that $200k is chump change and doesn't benefit the institutions when you consider the expense of travel and lost revenue from lack of ticket sales. playing regional teams and having some payday games sparks more interest, generates more revenue and gives more exposure to "us" all.
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RE: Is it time to disband C-USA?
(09-15-2017 05:30 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote: (09-15-2017 05:05 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote: (09-15-2017 04:56 PM)WKUYG Wrote: (09-15-2017 04:45 PM)PaulDel2 Wrote: [quote='WKUYG' pid='14584645' dateline='1505510284']
Here's a ideal, instead of making this topic 3 or 4 times a year why don't S.Miss fans get together and asked their AD and president ....
why they are in a conference with low life's
I will beat 95% of the fans complaining never asked this question to someone that knows the answer to it. Why? most likely they are afraid of the answer they get. Without someone flat out saying it to their face. They have the internet to ***** and complain about.
This conference is not keeping any of us from winning. In any sport. It's not keeping any of us from a at large bid in basketball. It might make that more difficult but not any more than any of the conference make up that fans put together.
It's not the conference that made S. Miss a bad football program for 3.5 out of the last 5 seasons. S. Miss went 0-12 while every school they want to be in the same conference with...was in CUSA
Not one of the new schools in this conference caused S. Miss to go 7-6, 7-6, 7-6 for 3 years before going 12-2 and 0-12. S. Miss did that all by their self.
Not one school in this conference or the conference it self caused S. Miss to go 9-20, 8-21, 9-22 in basketball over the last 3 years. S. Miss did that on their on...by hiring a coach that cheated.
You might say the rest of us are paying for S. Miss's bad choices a helluva lot more than us holding them back.
If you really want to know what a trueful AD and President would tell those S. Miss fans if they had the guts to ask, why?. Let me tell you what is the most likely answer to that question.
We suck at basketball and right now there is no hope of getting better in the near future. Like, the next 5 or so years. If ever.
We have a really good baseball program but lets be honest. That doesn't get you into another conference. It's probably the 4th sport in a list on important.
We use to be good in football but you really have to look at what the "use to" means.
We had 2...TWO (1988 and 2011), 10 or more wins in a season in the past 55 years.
In the last 20 S. Miss finished ranked, twice and 3 times in the last 55 years.
While we went 18 years without a losing record 10 of those were 7 or less wins and only 4 with 9 wins and 1 with 12.
While that is still better than most everyone that moved on it's not like we were a national program. Those schools that did move on had something to offer to offset their weakness. S. Miss didn't, still don't and most likely never will....
you can't change location
Its going to be near impossible to grow a budget to compete in another conference. Even if we sold out the stadium on all 6 games we are just looking at another 1.2 million or so at $25 a ticket
Right now even if a spot opened there are other schools that have passed S. Miss in football and those schools also have better basketball programs. They also have more money. Some even have location to offer.
So you tell me what I should do? Are you fans willing to kick in another $1000 each on season tickets because that is the only way S. Miss has to grow a budget that can compete in all sports with those that moved on. Are you willing to put your money with your words with the hope one day a spot opens. Can't wait till that day. Now shut the **** up! Well I doubt if he said that...but you know that's what both are thinking
Well, actually that question has been asked of the President and AD frequently. The answer has been that CUSA is where we are but it is not our destination.
Even with the horror that was ELLLLLLLLLLLLoss in 2012, and its effects in 2013 and 2014, more SEC, ACC and Big 12 fans would know and have more respect for USM than any other team in this conference. And yes that is based upon tradition, which is what every school's reputation is based upon. Sorry, but the next three that those same fans recognize would probably be Rice LaTech and Marshall. What do I base that on? Asking their fans when I see them.
Wins matter
this is where you miss the whole picture. sadly, wins didnt mean spit, when Cusa started getting robbed. theres not one team in the AAC (including louisville) that have beaten USM more than USM has beaten them (ok, except tulsa 3-4-1). the "move up" had nothing to do with "wins". so you swing and miss at everything right there. and THAT is why USM fans are chapped. we beat those teams like a drum for 50 years and we are stuck with westard kentucky, based on false logic by the TV networks.
Jesus dude... you act like you're world beaters... you're 6-6 vs us...
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But they are 5-4 all time vs UTEP. That's probably what they are thinking.
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RE: Is it time to disband C-USA?
(09-15-2017 04:05 PM)Limebull Wrote: CUSA can organize a tournament and have the winning team join the AAC and the P6
Is that what the BIG12 said to you guys to make you sing and dance?
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RE: Is it time to disband C-USA?
(09-15-2017 05:35 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote: (09-15-2017 05:30 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote: (09-15-2017 05:05 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote: (09-15-2017 04:56 PM)WKUYG Wrote: (09-15-2017 04:45 PM)PaulDel2 Wrote: [quote='WKUYG' pid='14584645' dateline='1505510284']
Here's a ideal, instead of making this topic 3 or 4 times a year why don't S.Miss fans get together and asked their AD and president ....
why they are in a conference with low life's
I will beat 95% of the fans complaining never asked this question to someone that knows the answer to it. Why? most likely they are afraid of the answer they get. Without someone flat out saying it to their face. They have the internet to ***** and complain about.
This conference is not keeping any of us from winning. In any sport. It's not keeping any of us from a at large bid in basketball. It might make that more difficult but not any more than any of the conference make up that fans put together.
It's not the conference that made S. Miss a bad football program for 3.5 out of the last 5 seasons. S. Miss went 0-12 while every school they want to be in the same conference with...was in CUSA
Not one of the new schools in this conference caused S. Miss to go 7-6, 7-6, 7-6 for 3 years before going 12-2 and 0-12. S. Miss did that all by their self.
Not one school in this conference or the conference it self caused S. Miss to go 9-20, 8-21, 9-22 in basketball over the last 3 years. S. Miss did that on their on...by hiring a coach that cheated.
You might say the rest of us are paying for S. Miss's bad choices a helluva lot more than us holding them back.
If you really want to know what a trueful AD and President would tell those S. Miss fans if they had the guts to ask, why?. Let me tell you what is the most likely answer to that question.
We suck at basketball and right now there is no hope of getting better in the near future. Like, the next 5 or so years. If ever.
We have a really good baseball program but lets be honest. That doesn't get you into another conference. It's probably the 4th sport in a list on important.
We use to be good in football but you really have to look at what the "use to" means.
We had 2...TWO (1988 and 2011), 10 or more wins in a season in the past 55 years.
In the last 20 S. Miss finished ranked, twice and 3 times in the last 55 years.
While we went 18 years without a losing record 10 of those were 7 or less wins and only 4 with 9 wins and 1 with 12.
While that is still better than most everyone that moved on it's not like we were a national program. Those schools that did move on had something to offer to offset their weakness. S. Miss didn't, still don't and most likely never will....
you can't change location
Its going to be near impossible to grow a budget to compete in another conference. Even if we sold out the stadium on all 6 games we are just looking at another 1.2 million or so at $25 a ticket
Right now even if a spot opened there are other schools that have passed S. Miss in football and those schools also have better basketball programs. They also have more money. Some even have location to offer.
So you tell me what I should do? Are you fans willing to kick in another $1000 each on season tickets because that is the only way S. Miss has to grow a budget that can compete in all sports with those that moved on. Are you willing to put your money with your words with the hope one day a spot opens. Can't wait till that day. Now shut the **** up! Well I doubt if he said that...but you know that's what both are thinking
Well, actually that question has been asked of the President and AD frequently. The answer has been that CUSA is where we are but it is not our destination.
Even with the horror that was ELLLLLLLLLLLLoss in 2012, and its effects in 2013 and 2014, more SEC, ACC and Big 12 fans would know and have more respect for USM than any other team in this conference. And yes that is based upon tradition, which is what every school's reputation is based upon. Sorry, but the next three that those same fans recognize would probably be Rice LaTech and Marshall. What do I base that on? Asking their fans when I see them.
Wins matter
this is where you miss the whole picture. sadly, wins didnt mean spit, when Cusa started getting robbed. theres not one team in the AAC (including louisville) that have beaten USM more than USM has beaten them (ok, except tulsa 3-4-1). the "move up" had nothing to do with "wins". so you swing and miss at everything right there. and THAT is why USM fans are chapped. we beat those teams like a drum for 50 years and we are stuck with westard kentucky, based on false logic by the TV networks.
Jesus dude... you act like you're world beaters... you're 6-6 vs us...
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But they are 5-4 all time vs UTEP. That's probably what they are thinking.
ok. speaking of UTEP...
this link should keep you busy a while. try not to walk off a bridge after looking at this
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/sch...s-el-paso/
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RE: Is it time to disband C-USA?
(09-15-2017 05:31 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote: now, to try to get back to the point of the thread ;
yes, i think almost all schools in this conference could stand to benefit from dissolving this conference (as i've suggested in other threads). i certainly think USM would. why? bc what benefit is this conference giving the schools? heck, it cost an arm and a leg to travel across the country (think other sports too, not just football), yet we get $200k from the conference tv contract!? thats a joke! other schools get $35,000,000 or so a year. my point, is not that we should get $10,000,000 a year, its that $200k is chump change and doesn't benefit the institutions when you consider the expense of travel and lost revenue from lack of ticket sales. playing regional teams and having some payday games sparks more interest, generates more revenue and gives more exposure to "us" all.
You do realize you just played a SEC school at home and lucky to have 20k in the stands?
But here's a question I have for you. Why do you sit at home on game day? So you are one of these couch fans that don't invest in the school they pull for..just ***** and complain.? Hey I didn't go to Western, well one day, then I found out it was costing me about $200 a day in lost work. I started my first business as a Sr in HS. But I do invest time and money into the school.
http://csnbbs.com/thread-824036-post-145...id14501222
(08-14-2017 12:02 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote: (08-13-2017 11:38 PM)usmstang Wrote: (08-13-2017 07:45 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote: (08-13-2017 06:01 PM)HarborPointe Wrote: As I've heard it told, a lot of folks wait until the last minute, and we usually end up selling a couple thousand or so every August. I'm usually one of those folks myself. I'm roughly 15 years in as a season ticket holder and this year may have been the first time ever I renewed my seats before August.
is the price the same as normal? i didn't realize the "good seats" came with a $1000 or so dollar price tag. not a bad thing, i was happy to see it actually. a lot of cusa teams don't have prices anywhere near that high. makes me feel like usm is little less junior high-ish than i was beginning to think.
A couple things here: (1) mine are $60/game in East Side club level not including seat leases or EC. Where I sat on the home side mid-way up the lower deck on the 44 yd line for 15 years were like $35/game last year. Again, not counting EC. (2) the fact that you don't know how much tickets are for games is disturbing. In other words, if we seem Junior High-ish to you, are you part of the reason we don't sell out games? Just askin? I'm hoping you tell me you are a student and get in free.
I didn't go to school at usm. Just pulled for them since about 2nd or 3rd grade or so. I dont live in MS anymore. Never lived near Hburg. I go to a game every now and then.
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RE: Is it time to disband C-USA?
what made OP think CUSA would be a multibid league?
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RE: Is it time to disband C-USA?
(09-15-2017 05:42 PM)WKUYG Wrote: (09-15-2017 05:31 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote: now, to try to get back to the point of the thread ;
yes, i think almost all schools in this conference could stand to benefit from dissolving this conference (as i've suggested in other threads). i certainly think USM would. why? bc what benefit is this conference giving the schools? heck, it cost an arm and a leg to travel across the country (think other sports too, not just football), yet we get $200k from the conference tv contract!? thats a joke! other schools get $35,000,000 or so a year. my point, is not that we should get $10,000,000 a year, its that $200k is chump change and doesn't benefit the institutions when you consider the expense of travel and lost revenue from lack of ticket sales. playing regional teams and having some payday games sparks more interest, generates more revenue and gives more exposure to "us" all.
You do realize you just played a SEC school at home and lucky to have 20k in the stands?
But here's a question I have for you. Why do you sit at home on game day?
http://csnbbs.com/thread-824036-post-145...id14501222
(08-14-2017 12:02 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote: (08-13-2017 11:38 PM)usmstang Wrote: (08-13-2017 07:45 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote: (08-13-2017 06:01 PM)HarborPointe Wrote: As I've heard it told, a lot of folks wait until the last minute, and we usually end up selling a couple thousand or so every August. I'm usually one of those folks myself. I'm roughly 15 years in as a season ticket holder and this year may have been the first time ever I renewed my seats before August.
is the price the same as normal? i didn't realize the "good seats" came with a $1000 or so dollar price tag. not a bad thing, i was happy to see it actually. a lot of cusa teams don't have prices anywhere near that high. makes me feel like usm is little less junior high-ish than i was beginning to think.
A couple things here: (1) mine are $60/game in East Side club level not including seat leases or EC. Where I sat on the home side mid-way up the lower deck on the 44 yd line for 15 years were like $35/game last year. Again, not counting EC. (2) the fact that you don't know how much tickets are for games is disturbing. In other words, if we seem Junior High-ish to you, are you part of the reason we don't sell out games? Just askin? I'm hoping you tell me you are a student and get in free.
I didn't go to school at usm. Just pulled for them since about 2nd or 3rd grade or so. I dont live in MS anymore. Never lived near Hburg. I go to a game every now and then.
what diff does it make? you already said my small balls and lack of influence don't make much a difference. or was it that they ARE the cause of USM's demise? stalk much, weirdo?
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RE: Is it time to disband C-USA?
(09-15-2017 05:40 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote: (09-15-2017 05:35 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote: (09-15-2017 05:30 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote: (09-15-2017 05:05 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote: (09-15-2017 04:56 PM)WKUYG Wrote: Well, actually that question has been asked of the President and AD frequently. The answer has been that CUSA is where we are but it is not our destination.
Even with the horror that was ELLLLLLLLLLLLoss in 2012, and its effects in 2013 and 2014, more SEC, ACC and Big 12 fans would know and have more respect for USM than any other team in this conference. And yes that is based upon tradition, which is what every school's reputation is based upon. Sorry, but the next three that those same fans recognize would probably be Rice LaTech and Marshall. What do I base that on? Asking their fans when I see them.
Wins matter
this is where you miss the whole picture. sadly, wins didnt mean spit, when Cusa started getting robbed. theres not one team in the AAC (including louisville) that have beaten USM more than USM has beaten them (ok, except tulsa 3-4-1). the "move up" had nothing to do with "wins". so you swing and miss at everything right there. and THAT is why USM fans are chapped. we beat those teams like a drum for 50 years and we are stuck with westard kentucky, based on false logic by the TV networks.
Jesus dude... you act like you're world beaters... you're 6-6 vs us...
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But they are 5-4 all time vs UTEP. That's probably what they are thinking.
ok. speaking of UTEP...
this link should keep you busy a while. try not to walk off a bridge after looking at this
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/sch...s-el-paso/
Wow we are such a horrible team. Yet your record against us is only one game above .500. By the way when are you going to beat WKU or MTSU or FAU or FIU? Or why do you have losing records vs UTSA and RICE? Or why don't you have winning records vs Marshall, ODU, and Charlotte? You guys really are so much better than everyone in this conference! Thank the lord the AAC left you behind where would any of us be without USM?
(This post was last modified: 09-15-2017 05:48 PM by JCMiner.)
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