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CUSA swaps HOD Bowl for Armed Forces Bowl
https://www.landof10.com/big-ten/big-ten...allas-bowl

HOD now becomes P5 vs P5 bowl. Probably a sign of where HOD is heading in the new bowl agreements in 2020.
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Love this. It's my favorite venue after the Rose Bowl.
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The last Big 12 vs Big Ten still was not that well of a turn out. I think they need to rename the bowl the Big Tex Bowl or just Dallas Bowl
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I wonder what CUSA got out of the deal.
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(09-14-2017 09:39 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I wonder what CUSA got out of the deal.

A likely opponent in a bowl.

Big 10 was probably not going to fill bowl anyway, at least a decent chance they wouldn't. This would leave the bowl scrambling for a lower tier team.

While Army, at 2-0, is very likely to get bowl eligible.
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This is only for 1 year. CUSA has the HOD for the next 2 years after this vacate.
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(09-14-2017 10:23 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  This is only for 1 year. CUSA has the HOD for the next 2 years after this vacate.

In theory. This time last year we could have said the same thing about CUSA being in the HOD Bowl this year. Frankly, the move seems odd to me. I dont really see why CUSA would agree to it.
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Personally, I think this is setting up for the next Alignment. Match P5 vs P5 and let G5 come in as replacements.

Just my opinion:
SEC and ACC settles on Indy or Bham and drops the other one. My bet, Indy becomes AAC vs MWC
Vegas goes to B10 vs P12 and moves MWC to Foster Bowl for last Slot
HOD goes B12 vs ACC or B10. AF Bowl becomes AAC/MWC vs Army
ACC drops out of St. Pete and moves Military to last bowl slot. St. Pete becomes AAC vs CUSA
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(09-14-2017 10:42 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Personally, I think this is setting up for the next Alignment. Match P5 vs P5 and let G5 come in as replacements.

Just my opinion:
SEC and ACC settles on Indy or Bham and drops the other one. My bet, Indy becomes AAC vs MWC
Vegas goes to B10 vs P12 and moves MWC to Foster Bowl for last Slot
HOD goes B12 vs ACC or B10. AF Bowl becomes AAC/MWC vs Army
ACC drops out of St. Pete and moves Military to last bowl slot. St. Pete becomes AAC vs CUSA

Perhaps, but I hope not. 04-cheers

I really liked the proposal the ACC and Sunbelt had during the CFP negotiations. There would have been 10 CFP bowls plus the NCG. The top 2 would have been the semi-finals. The other 8 would have matched up the remaining top 20 teams in the country using geography and the rankings to create interesting bowl matchups. The selection committee would create the pairings.
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(09-14-2017 10:42 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Personally, I think this is setting up for the next Alignment. Match P5 vs P5 and let G5 come in as replacements.

Just my opinion:
SEC and ACC settles on Indy or Bham and drops the other one. My bet, Indy becomes AAC vs MWC
Vegas goes to B10 vs P12 and moves MWC to Foster Bowl for last Slot
HOD goes B12 vs ACC or B10. AF Bowl becomes AAC/MWC vs Army
ACC drops out of St. Pete and moves Military to last bowl slot. St. Pete becomes AAC vs CUSA

I see virtually none of this happening.
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(09-14-2017 09:34 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  The last Big 12 vs Big Ten still was not that well of a turn out. I think they need to rename the bowl the Big Tex Bowl or just Dallas Bowl

The problem is that Big Ten vs. C-USA or a different G5 league would be even worse turnout. At least Big Ten vs. Big 12 has a chance at decent TV attractiveness.
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(09-14-2017 10:56 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 09:34 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  The last Big 12 vs Big Ten still was not that well of a turn out. I think they need to rename the bowl the Big Tex Bowl or just Dallas Bowl

The problem is that Big Ten vs. C-USA or a different G5 league would be even worse turnout. At least Big Ten vs. Big 12 has a chance at decent TV attractiveness.




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(09-14-2017 10:42 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Personally, I think this is setting up for the next Alignment. Match P5 vs P5 and let G5 come in as replacements.

Just my opinion:
SEC and ACC settles on Indy or Bham and drops the other one. My bet, Indy becomes AAC vs MWC
Vegas goes to B10 vs P12 and moves MWC to Foster Bowl for last Slot
HOD goes B12 vs ACC or B10. AF Bowl becomes AAC/MWC vs Army
ACC drops out of St. Pete and moves Military to last bowl slot. St. Pete becomes AAC vs CUSA

I'd make Vegas P12 vs. SEC and drop the MWC go to Shreveport vs. AAC. But that's only me.
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CUSA is probably getting a check and maybe an agreement for scheduling purposes of a few games like the ACC gave the A-10 to move out of the Barclays for 2 years.
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(09-14-2017 11:48 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 10:56 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 09:34 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  The last Big 12 vs Big Ten still was not that well of a turn out. I think they need to rename the bowl the Big Tex Bowl or just Dallas Bowl

The problem is that Big Ten vs. C-USA or a different G5 league would be even worse turnout. At least Big Ten vs. Big 12 has a chance at decent TV attractiveness.




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Army 38 North Texas 31 39,117

There you go bringing facts to a discussion again. 04-chairshot
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(09-14-2017 11:48 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 10:56 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 09:34 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  The last Big 12 vs Big Ten still was not that well of a turn out. I think they need to rename the bowl the Big Tex Bowl or just Dallas Bowl

The problem is that Big Ten vs. C-USA or a different G5 league would be even worse turnout. At least Big Ten vs. Big 12 has a chance at decent TV attractiveness.




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North Texas 36 UNLV 14 38,380

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Louisiana Tech 35 Illinois 18 31,297

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Washington 44 Southern Miss 31 20,229

December 27, 2016
Army 38 North Texas 31 39,117

Thanks. 48,000 people gets really small looking in the Cotton Bowl. Seems Big 12 and Houston bring the most fans.

I imagine if the game is Texas or Texas Tech vs. Nebraska or Iowa it would be a great turn out.

I wonder when bowl games are going to start going by division instead of conference. For example this game should be a Big 12 vs. Big Ten West team. Same goes for Military Bowl that should be a AAC East vs ACC.
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(09-14-2017 11:56 AM)Rube Dali Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 10:42 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Personally, I think this is setting up for the next Alignment. Match P5 vs P5 and let G5 come in as replacements.

Just my opinion:
SEC and ACC settles on Indy or Bham and drops the other one. My bet, Indy becomes AAC vs MWC
Vegas goes to B10 vs P12 and moves MWC to Foster Bowl for last Slot
HOD goes B12 vs ACC or B10. AF Bowl becomes AAC/MWC vs Army
ACC drops out of St. Pete and moves Military to last bowl slot. St. Pete becomes AAC vs CUSA

I'd make Vegas P12 vs. SEC and drop the MWC go to Shreveport vs. AAC. But that's only me.
The MWC won't sell in Shreveport. They will in Vegas and that's why they have that bowl. The best conferences for Shreveport are the SEC, the Big 12, & the ACC. Everybody else is iffy at best.
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(09-15-2017 01:25 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 11:56 AM)Rube Dali Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 10:42 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Personally, I think this is setting up for the next Alignment. Match P5 vs P5 and let G5 come in as replacements.

Just my opinion:
SEC and ACC settles on Indy or Bham and drops the other one. My bet, Indy becomes AAC vs MWC
Vegas goes to B10 vs P12 and moves MWC to Foster Bowl for last Slot
HOD goes B12 vs ACC or B10. AF Bowl becomes AAC/MWC vs Army
ACC drops out of St. Pete and moves Military to last bowl slot. St. Pete becomes AAC vs CUSA

I'd make Vegas P12 vs. SEC and drop the MWC go to Shreveport vs. AAC. But that's only me.
The MWC won't sell in Shreveport. They will in Vegas and that's why they have that bowl. The best conferences for Shreveport are the SEC, the Big 12, & the ACC. Everybody else is iffy at best.

ACC has not sold well in Shreveport. Air Force does well in Shreveport but there is a big Air Force base there and several more within an easy day's drive. Anyone else from MWC is a long hump and not very easy to get to.

Western parts of AAC, CUSA, and Sun Belt would do just fine in Shreveport. Big XII has tended to do well as have the western SEC teams.
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(09-14-2017 03:34 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 11:48 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 10:56 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 09:34 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  The last Big 12 vs Big Ten still was not that well of a turn out. I think they need to rename the bowl the Big Tex Bowl or just Dallas Bowl

The problem is that Big Ten vs. C-USA or a different G5 league would be even worse turnout. At least Big Ten vs. Big 12 has a chance at decent TV attractiveness.




January 1, 2011
Texas Tech 45 Northwestern 38 40,121

January 2, 2012
Houston 30 Penn State 14 46,817

January 1, 2013
Oklahoma State 58 Purdue 14 48,313

January 1, 2014
North Texas 36 UNLV 14 38,380

December 26, 2014
Louisiana Tech 35 Illinois 18 31,297

December 26, 2015
Washington 44 Southern Miss 31 20,229

December 27, 2016
Army 38 North Texas 31 39,117

Thanks. 48,000 people gets really small looking in the Cotton Bowl. Seems Big 12 and Houston bring the most fans.

I imagine if the game is Texas or Texas Tech vs. Nebraska or Iowa it would be a great turn out.

I wonder when bowl games are going to start going by division instead of conference. For example this game should be a Big 12 vs. Big Ten West team. Same goes for Military Bowl that should be a AAC East vs ACC.

I think bowls rightfully like the flexibility - a bowl doesn't want to lock in a Big Ten West tie-in when Michigan, Ohio State or Penn State is available. The bowls will naturally gravitate to the best fit available for them, anyway. At least for the Big Ten, it doesn't matter much (as bowls in California and Arizona are every bit as popular for Big Ten East schools as they are for Big Ten West schools and vice versa when it comes to Florida bowls). There might be a little more of a natural divide in the SEC where most East schools like Florida-based bowls over Texas-based bowls (and the SEC doesn't really
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