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RE: Week 2 SBC Power Rankings
(09-10-2017 11:43 AM)Arrowhead Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 11:17 AM)CCUBrad Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 10:54 AM)Arrowhead Wrote:  Am I the only one that doesn't get the infatuation with Coastal? They beat a terrible UMass team by what? 10 points or so? Again, very glad the won and definitely not a bad win, but my money would be on Arkansas St. smoking them. This is not a knock on y'all Coastal fans and I know you have a very good program, but a win over UMass in your first year in the SBC does not put you on the level of stAte already. For your sake and the improvement of the conference I hope you guys are that good, besides got the game in Monroe this year! Lol.

Dude, no one from Coastal has even commented on this thread. I haven't seen any Coastal fan say they think we could beat stAte, or App, or Troy. You're obviously upset that we have one of the two wins against a FBS program for the conference and are getting some positive attention for it, I get that it's frustrating to you. We all wish the conference would have done better up to now, but it's just week 2 and unfortunately the UMASS win is amongst the best performances in the conference to date. We're the only undefeated team left in the conference. Sorry our on field performance doesn't correlate better with where you think we should be. We play in a few weeks and you'll get the chance to put us in our place.

I'm not saying y'all aren't the best team in the conference or that your fans said anything of the like. I'm just saying I don't think a win over UMass puts you on the level of Arkansas St. Heck, y'all may be better and you may smoke us in Monroe. I'm in no way talking trash and am not even talking to Coastal fans because none of y'all are running your mouths. Just saying I think y'all need to do more than beat
UMass than to be declared the second coming.

And I'm just saying I think that has much more to do with what the rest of the conference has done than anything with what we have actually done. Not our fault our win against a struggling UMASS is one of the best wins so far. I hope that changes...
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RE: Week 2 SBC Power Rankings
(09-10-2017 11:51 AM)AppinVA Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 11:48 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  I'll ask again Why does any SBC team think they can beat this A-State team?

They have lost one SBC game in two years and are a lot more talented than any recent A-State team.

We can't. But they can't beat us, either.

That makes sense to me, and the better question for the SBC is why does any team think they could beat AppSt or A-State.

That may end-up being the question that has to be asked almost every year anyway, at least in the near future.
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(09-10-2017 12:21 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 11:51 AM)AppinVA Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 11:48 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  I'll ask again Why does any SBC team think they can beat this A-State team?

They have lost one SBC game in two years and are a lot more talented than any recent A-State team.

We can't. But they can't beat us, either.

That makes sense to me, and the better question for the SBC is why does any team think they could beat AppSt or A-State.

That may end-up being the question that has to be asked almost every year, at least in the near future.

Not really. It's a silly question. If you had asked why anyone thinks they will beat either one of those teams, it'd be at least slightly less silly.

Anybody in the league can beat anyone if the right circumstances appear. Troy beat APP last season, so if we played this year, its possible we could beat them again.
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RE: Week 2 SBC Power Rankings
Right now, unless a team has some tangible reason to feel their team can beat them, those two are your top two.

I see a couple of schools that should be able to give a reason for some hope so far.
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RE: Week 2 SBC Power Rankings
(09-10-2017 12:31 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 12:21 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 11:51 AM)AppinVA Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 11:48 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  I'll ask again Why does any SBC team think they can beat this A-State team?

They have lost one SBC game in two years and are a lot more talented than any recent A-State team.

We can't. But they can't beat us, either.

That makes sense to me, and the better question for the SBC is why does any team think they could beat AppSt or A-State.

That may end-up being the question that has to be asked almost every year, at least in the near future.

Not really. It's a silly question. If you had asked why anyone thinks they will beat either one of those teams, it'd be at least slightly less silly.

Anybody in the league can beat anyone if the right circumstances appear. Troy beat APP last season, so if we played this year, its possible we could beat them again.
It is not a silly question, it is the only question.

I would ask a similar question if this were the SEC, why does any other SEC team think they can beat Alabama.

From those answer's I would get a better idea of how the fans of those teams really feel they match-up, even with each other.

Right now I don't see any SBC team beating either, anymore than I see an SEC team beating Alabama.

IMO there are more SBC teams that can beat A-State and AppSt, than SEC teams that can beat Alabama.
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RE: Week 2 SBC Power Rankings
NMSU
App St
Troy
CCU
stAte
Idaho
ULM
USA
TXST
UL
GS
GSU
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RE: Week 2 SBC Power Rankings
So far this year

Top Group(no particular order, and making believe we don't know who the top two really are)
stAte
App St
NMSU
Troy

Next group (no particular order)
Idaho
ULM
USA
TXST
UL
CCU

Next group (no particular order)
GS
GSU
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Week 2 SBC Power Rankings
Now that we see even Notre Dame can't beat Georgia I think it's a safe assumption no team in the Sun Belt could either. I don't think any Sun Belt team would have lost to Savannah State. Not even either of our Georgia teams. So basically App has the exact same record as any Sun Belt team would have given its schedule. Could be week 4 before we really know what we have.
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RE: Week 2 SBC Power Rankings
StAte (maybe bias but I believe this is the best team in the belt, Nebraska maybe average but we should be able to score more like 2011-2014)
App (unimpressive against UGA or would be 1)
Troy (Offense hasn't clicked yet)
NMSU (Impressive win against UNM. Curious about how good Arizona St is)
Cajuns (No D but they will out score folks)
ULM (Looked above average in a rainy Memphis game)
Idaho (would be higher if they had done anything against UNLV)
Coastal (Nice win against Umass. Relative Unknown)
Texas St (Looked better than the score showed against what I believe is an excellent Colorado team, underwhelming FCS win)
South Alabama (Two rough losses against decent teams)
Southern (Nothing needs to be said except I think they will avenge Ga State)
Ga State (See above)

Edit: Oops I knew I was missing someone
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(09-10-2017 11:29 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 09:27 AM)Arrowhead Wrote:  Another tough week to do the power poll with several teams not playing, but I'll give it a go. Mine is a combination of best of this week and the season overall. I'm putting NMSU first for their play as of late, but can't honestly say I'm convinced for example that they would beat Ark St. Here goes:

1) NMSU
2) stAte
3) App St.
4) Troy
5) ULM
6) Coastal
7) ULL
8) USA
9) Idaho
10) Georgia Southern
11) Texas St.
12) Georgia St.

That's where I am, except I'd stick NMSU in between Coastal and ULL. NMSU beat a pretty good UNM team last year and still did poorly in conference.

The difference was NMSU had to come from behind to beat UNM last season. UNM should have won that game.


This year, NMSU shut down the Lobo option attack, and up 30-5 at the start of the 4th quarter.

This isn't the same Aggie football team from last season.
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(09-10-2017 02:58 PM)runninjoe Wrote:  StAte (maybe bias but I believe this is the best team in the belt, Nebraska maybe average but we should be able to score more like 2011-2014)
App (unimpressive against UGA or would be 1)
Troy (Offense hasn't clicked yet)
NMSU (Impressive win against UNM. Curious about how good Arizona St is)
Cajuns (No D but they will out score folks)
ULM (Looked above average in a rainy Memphis game)
Idaho (would be higher if they had done anything against UNLV)
Coastal (Nice win against Umass. Relative Unknown)
South Alabama (Two rough losses against decent teams)
Southern (Nothing needs to be said except I think they will avenge Ga State)
Ga State (See above)

Missed a team
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Cajuns won't win 3 more games. HUD sealed his fate last season insulting the majority of the fan base. He is in year one of a trek year lame duck coach. He's done after '18.
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(09-10-2017 02:51 PM)AppNation85 Wrote:  Now that we see even Notre Dame can't beat Georgia I think it's a safe assumption no team in the Sun Belt could either. I don't think any Sun Belt team would have lost to Savannah State. Not even either of our Georgia teams. So basically App has the exact same record as any Sun Belt team would have given its schedule. Could be week 4 before we really know what we have.
I was just trying to goat some posters into "why" they could beat either to see if I wanted to change my season prediction for A-State on another site.

I had the finishing 8-4 after going 1-3 in OOC, and with one SBC loss.

Even though Troy was expected to be the best SBC team on their schedule, and certainly looks solid, I had predicted they would beat them at home and lose to one of the others.

Now I'm wavering a little and its more 8 wins +/-1, by my thinking.

There were enough positives in the Nebraska game to see them going undefeated, and enough negatives, (along with some other SBC teams on their schedule showing they can compete), to see them losing two games.

Don't know who can beat AppSt.
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Any sunbelt team"can" beat the other. I think ULM has about a 25% chance of beating App or Ark St. in Monroe until I see more from all. Probably better chance against App than stAte. They have our number.
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(09-10-2017 04:48 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  Any sunbelt team"can" beat the other. I think ULM has about a 25% chance of beating App or Ark St. in Monroe until I see more from all. Probably better chance against App than stAte. They have our number.

Well I've always just focused on the macro(overall season record), but ESPN has them with a 67.3 % chance of winning in Monroe.

Actually has SMU as their toughest test and only expected loss, with NMSU their toughest SBC test. Pretty solid favorite to win the other games.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/tea...&year=2017

AppSt is given a 70.3 % chance if winning against ULM , and looks to be a solid favorite to win all their SBC games.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/fpi/_/id/2026
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Any ranking that doesn't have Georgia Southern firmly in 12th is invalid, we stink and are legitimately looking at 0-12 this year.
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(09-10-2017 10:07 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 09:45 AM)CatMom Wrote:  Let's see, week 1 TXST's win sucked because it was HBU so got ranked below other teams that lost.
Week 2 we lose to a Pac12 team but that's worse than losing to another G5 by 24 an FCS or, hell, not playing at all.
I guess there's a template where TXST is just plugged into the 11th slot.

Sounds about right. You have to actually prove you're better than last year. It'll all play out within the next few weeks anyway.

Except if you had seen the game you'd know that we hung in until late in the second half and actually looked like we belonged on the field with a good pac12 team. A momentary glance at colorado's forum game thread... And their immense frustration will verify as much.

So far... We are definitely playing better than last year.
Ranking GS or Idaho ahead is just score browsing
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Well Georgia Southern is certainly one of the SBCs most talented teams, and talent can cover a lot of sins when that talent wants to. Ask the A-State folks.

ESPN has you favored over Georgia State and USA, but I think you will do better, but I'm still biased toward talent.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/fpi/_/id/290
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(09-10-2017 05:46 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Well Georgia Southern is certainly one of the SBCs most talented teams, and talent can cover a lot of sins when that talent wants to. Ask the A-State folks.
Huh?

Talented maybe... Good? Not at the moment
GS is in desperate need of a coaching change.
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(09-10-2017 10:54 AM)Arrowhead Wrote:  Am I the only one that doesn't get the infatuation with Coastal? They beat a terrible UMass team by what? 10 points or so? Again, very glad the won and definitely not a bad win, but my money would be on Arkansas St. smoking them. This is not a knock on y'all Coastal fans and I know you have a very good program, but a win over UMass in your first year in the SBC does not put you on the level of stAte already. For your sake and the improvement of the conference I hope you guys are that good, besides got the game in Monroe this year! Lol.

With this post and the post Golata made about Coastal in another thread, you guys are kind of making me dislike ULM, which is probably one of the last teams in the conference that I ever would have thought I would have disliked.

We could ask the same question about ULM. Other than having a coach that people believe in, what the hell has your team done recently to make anyone in this conference believe you're a contentnder? Beating UMASS does not make us top notch Sun belt by any means. But quite frankly, ULM doesn't have much in their arsenal of self validation either. Glass houses and such.

I hope we beat you guys by 35 on your own field this year.
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