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Penny isn't interested in showing up to high school practices and workouts on time, yet he's gonna have the desire to spend hours watching game film, hit the grind of the recruiting trail, etc? It's pretty easy to roll out all that talent in high school and win big.

"But he can deliver recruits!"

Can he? He was supposed to be funneling all his East and AAU players to Memphis, but how has that worked out?

Using some of the same arguments we use for Penny, consider this:

Keelon Lawson coached Hamilton to an undefeated state championship, he could deliver four Lawsons, DJ Jeffries, and who knows how many other local recruits, but who in their right mind would hire him to be a head coach of a D1 basketball team?

The guy couldn't properly handle a college scouting report.

Where is the proof that Penny can COACH? We've already seen that assembling a bunch of highly ranked Memphis players isn't enough to get the job done.

I'd rather not have to deal with the aftermath if it ends up being a disaster.
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(09-15-2017 10:17 AM)dwash Wrote:  I don't know how it would translate to college recruiting, but one thing Penny believes in is stacking talent. He is basically coaching a D1 starting lineup right now. Look at East High, his AAU teams and even his weekend Men's League teams lol. He ain't trying come in second place in the skills level department. That's not an option. His teams are also well disciplined and play together.

Yet they got destroyed at Peach Jam this summer by less talented teams though they were the favorites to win it all.
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(09-15-2017 10:39 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 10:17 AM)dwash Wrote:  I don't know how it would translate to college recruiting, but one thing Penny believes in is stacking talent. He is basically coaching a D1 starting lineup right now. Look at East High, his AAU teams and even his weekend Men's League teams lol. He ain't trying come in second place in the skills level department. That's not an option. His teams are also well disciplined and play together.

Yet they got destroyed at Peach Jam this summer by less talented teams though they were the favorites to win it all.

Not really concerned about actual AAU records. Little time to gel and a bunch of guys with their own agenda that they are trying to play out in a few weeks.
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(09-15-2017 10:37 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  Penny isn't interested in showing up to high school practices and workouts on time, yet he's gonna have the desire to spend hours watching game film, hit the grind of the recruiting trail, etc?


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(09-15-2017 10:37 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  "But he can deliver recruits!"

Can he? He was supposed to be funneling all his East and AAU players to Memphis, but how has that worked out?

Why would he?
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(09-15-2017 10:37 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  Penny isn't interested in showing up to high school practices and workouts on time, yet he's gonna have the desire to spend hours watching game film, hit the grind of the recruiting trail, etc? It's pretty easy to roll out all that talent in high school and win big.

"But he can deliver recruits!"

Can he? He was supposed to be funneling all his East and AAU players to Memphis, but how has that worked out?

Using some of the same arguments we use for Penny, consider this:

Keelon Lawson coached Hamilton to an undefeated state championship, he could deliver four Lawsons, DJ Jeffries, and who knows how many other local recruits, but who in their right mind would hire him to be a head coach of a D1 basketball team?

The guy couldn't properly handle a college scouting report.

Where is the proof that Penny can COACH? We've already seen that assembling a bunch of highly ranked Memphis players isn't enough to get the job done.

I'd rather not have to deal with the aftermath if it ends up being a disaster.

We are on the cusp of a disastrous season. Hiring Penny, although not ideal IMO, would be an improvement over the current situation.
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From the picture I saw with X and Barbee, looks like Penny may be delivering recruits to Kentucky.

Meanwhile Juco U gets ready for a season on the edge.
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(09-15-2017 10:37 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  Penny isn't interested in showing up to high school practices and workouts on time, yet he's gonna have the desire to spend hours watching game film, hit the grind of the recruiting trail, etc? It's pretty easy to roll out all that talent in high school and win big.

"But he can deliver recruits!"

Can he? He was supposed to be funneling all his East and AAU players to Memphis, but how has that worked out?

Using some of the same arguments we use for Penny, consider this:

Keelon Lawson coached Hamilton to an undefeated state championship, he could deliver four Lawsons, DJ Jeffries, and who knows how many other local recruits, but who in their right mind would hire him to be a head coach of a D1 basketball team?

The guy couldn't properly handle a college scouting report.

Where is the proof that Penny can COACH? We've already seen that assembling a bunch of highly ranked Memphis players isn't enough to get the job done.

I'd rather not have to deal with the aftermath if it ends up being a disaster.

Quote:Can he? He was supposed to be funneling all his East and AAU players to Memphis, but how has that worked out?

Supposed to? According to who? If we had someone better and more deserving of his players than Tubby, I'm sure he would.
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(09-15-2017 11:28 AM)jamammy Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 10:37 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  Penny isn't interested in showing up to high school practices and workouts on time, yet he's gonna have the desire to spend hours watching game film, hit the grind of the recruiting trail, etc?


Link?

Talk to Easterwood.

(09-15-2017 11:28 AM)jamammy Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 10:37 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  "But he can deliver recruits!"

Can he? He was supposed to be funneling all his East and AAU players to Memphis, but how has that worked out?

Why would he?

Because he loves the University and wants the basketball team to succeed?
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(09-15-2017 03:08 PM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 11:28 AM)jamammy Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 10:37 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  Penny isn't interested in showing up to high school practices and workouts on time, yet he's gonna have the desire to spend hours watching game film, hit the grind of the recruiting trail, etc?


Link?

Talk to Easterwood.

(09-15-2017 11:28 AM)jamammy Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 10:37 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  "But he can deliver recruits!"

Can he? He was supposed to be funneling all his East and AAU players to Memphis, but how has that worked out?

Why would he?

Because he loves the University and wants the basketball team to succeed?

Nope. He knows he has a responsibility to the kids. Sending them to Pastner and now Tubby is not in the best interest of the kids.
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(09-15-2017 03:47 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 03:08 PM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 11:28 AM)jamammy Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 10:37 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  Penny isn't interested in showing up to high school practices and workouts on time, yet he's gonna have the desire to spend hours watching game film, hit the grind of the recruiting trail, etc?


Link?

Talk to Easterwood.

(09-15-2017 11:28 AM)jamammy Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 10:37 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  "But he can deliver recruits!"

Can he? He was supposed to be funneling all his East and AAU players to Memphis, but how has that worked out?

Why would he?

Because he loves the University and wants the basketball team to succeed?

Nope. He knows he has a responsibility to the kids. Sending them to Pastner and now Tubby is not in the best interest of the kids.

Based on what? All it takes is one incredible recruiting class and Tiger basketball could get turned around. If what's "best" for the kids is related to their chances to compete for a national championship or make the NBA then you might as well play the percentages and argue that it would never be best to send them to their hometown University.
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(09-15-2017 03:08 PM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 11:28 AM)jamammy Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 10:37 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  Penny isn't interested in showing up to high school practices and workouts on time, yet he's gonna have the desire to spend hours watching game film, hit the grind of the recruiting trail, etc?


Link?

Talk to Easterwood.

I'll send him a text later.


(09-15-2017 03:08 PM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 11:28 AM)jamammy Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 10:37 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  "But he can deliver recruits!"

Can he? He was supposed to be funneling all his East and AAU players to Memphis, but how has that worked out?

Why would he?

Because he loves the University and wants the basketball team to succeed?

Maybe he thinks that they would not succeed at Memphis with the present coaching staff.

And doesn't like Tubby.

Just spitballing.
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(09-15-2017 10:37 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  Penny isn't interested in showing up to high school practices and workouts on time, yet he's gonna have the desire to spend hours watching game film, hit the grind of the recruiting trail, etc? It's pretty easy to roll out all that talent in high school and win big.

"But he can deliver recruits!"

Can he? He was supposed to be funneling all his East and AAU players to Memphis, but how has that worked out?

Using some of the same arguments we use for Penny, consider this:

Keelon Lawson coached Hamilton to an undefeated state championship, he could deliver four Lawsons, DJ Jeffries, and who knows how many other local recruits, but who in their right mind would hire him to be a head coach of a D1 basketball team?

The guy couldn't properly handle a college scouting report.

Where is the proof that Penny can COACH? We've already seen that assembling a bunch of highly ranked Memphis players isn't enough to get the job done.

I'd rather not have to deal with the aftermath if it ends up being a disaster.

Are you Bluto?
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(09-15-2017 06:46 PM)TG4 Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 10:37 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  Penny isn't interested in showing up to high school practices and workouts on time, yet he's gonna have the desire to spend hours watching game film, hit the grind of the recruiting trail, etc? It's pretty easy to roll out all that talent in high school and win big.

"But he can deliver recruits!"

Can he? He was supposed to be funneling all his East and AAU players to Memphis, but how has that worked out?

Using some of the same arguments we use for Penny, consider this:

Keelon Lawson coached Hamilton to an undefeated state championship, he could deliver four Lawsons, DJ Jeffries, and who knows how many other local recruits, but who in their right mind would hire him to be a head coach of a D1 basketball team?

The guy couldn't properly handle a college scouting report.

Where is the proof that Penny can COACH? We've already seen that assembling a bunch of highly ranked Memphis players isn't enough to get the job done.

I'd rather not have to deal with the aftermath if it ends up being a disaster.

Are you Bluto?

Johnny appears to be a good typist with inside information.
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(09-15-2017 06:46 PM)TG4 Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 10:37 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  Penny isn't interested in showing up to high school practices and workouts on time, yet he's gonna have the desire to spend hours watching game film, hit the grind of the recruiting trail, etc? It's pretty easy to roll out all that talent in high school and win big.

"But he can deliver recruits!"

Can he? He was supposed to be funneling all his East and AAU players to Memphis, but how has that worked out?

Using some of the same arguments we use for Penny, consider this:

Keelon Lawson coached Hamilton to an undefeated state championship, he could deliver four Lawsons, DJ Jeffries, and who knows how many other local recruits, but who in their right mind would hire him to be a head coach of a D1 basketball team?

The guy couldn't properly handle a college scouting report.

Where is the proof that Penny can COACH? We've already seen that assembling a bunch of highly ranked Memphis players isn't enough to get the job done.

I'd rather not have to deal with the aftermath if it ends up being a disaster.

Are you Bluto?

He's got a million of them.
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(09-15-2017 09:05 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 06:46 PM)TG4 Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 10:37 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  Penny isn't interested in showing up to high school practices and workouts on time, yet he's gonna have the desire to spend hours watching game film, hit the grind of the recruiting trail, etc? It's pretty easy to roll out all that talent in high school and win big.

"But he can deliver recruits!"

Can he? He was supposed to be funneling all his East and AAU players to Memphis, but how has that worked out?

Using some of the same arguments we use for Penny, consider this:

Keelon Lawson coached Hamilton to an undefeated state championship, he could deliver four Lawsons, DJ Jeffries, and who knows how many other local recruits, but who in their right mind would hire him to be a head coach of a D1 basketball team?

The guy couldn't properly handle a college scouting report.

Where is the proof that Penny can COACH? We've already seen that assembling a bunch of highly ranked Memphis players isn't enough to get the job done.

I'd rather not have to deal with the aftermath if it ends up being a disaster.

Are you Bluto?

He's got a million of them.

IKR
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(09-15-2017 09:05 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 06:46 PM)TG4 Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 10:37 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  Penny isn't interested in showing up to high school practices and workouts on time, yet he's gonna have the desire to spend hours watching game film, hit the grind of the recruiting trail, etc? It's pretty easy to roll out all that talent in high school and win big.

"But he can deliver recruits!"

Can he? He was supposed to be funneling all his East and AAU players to Memphis, but how has that worked out?

Using some of the same arguments we use for Penny, consider this:

Keelon Lawson coached Hamilton to an undefeated state championship, he could deliver four Lawsons, DJ Jeffries, and who knows how many other local recruits, but who in their right mind would hire him to be a head coach of a D1 basketball team?

The guy couldn't properly handle a college scouting report.

Where is the proof that Penny can COACH? We've already seen that assembling a bunch of highly ranked Memphis players isn't enough to get the job done.

I'd rather not have to deal with the aftermath if it ends up being a disaster.

Are you Bluto?

He's got a million of them.

Only 3 like him.
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(09-15-2017 07:00 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 06:46 PM)TG4 Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 10:37 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  Penny isn't interested in showing up to high school practices and workouts on time, yet he's gonna have the desire to spend hours watching game film, hit the grind of the recruiting trail, etc? It's pretty easy to roll out all that talent in high school and win big.

"But he can deliver recruits!"

Can he? He was supposed to be funneling all his East and AAU players to Memphis, but how has that worked out?

Using some of the same arguments we use for Penny, consider this:

Keelon Lawson coached Hamilton to an undefeated state championship, he could deliver four Lawsons, DJ Jeffries, and who knows how many other local recruits, but who in their right mind would hire him to be a head coach of a D1 basketball team?

The guy couldn't properly handle a college scouting report.

Where is the proof that Penny can COACH? We've already seen that assembling a bunch of highly ranked Memphis players isn't enough to get the job done.

I'd rather not have to deal with the aftermath if it ends up being a disaster.

Are you Bluto?

Johnny appears to be a good typist with inside information.

Plus, I'm fairly confident I have better abs.
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(09-15-2017 04:23 PM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 03:47 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 03:08 PM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 11:28 AM)jamammy Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 10:37 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  Penny isn't interested in showing up to high school practices and workouts on time, yet he's gonna have the desire to spend hours watching game film, hit the grind of the recruiting trail, etc?


Link?

Talk to Easterwood.

(09-15-2017 11:28 AM)jamammy Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 10:37 AM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  "But he can deliver recruits!"

Can he? He was supposed to be funneling all his East and AAU players to Memphis, but how has that worked out?

Why would he?

Because he loves the University and wants the basketball team to succeed?

Nope. He knows he has a responsibility to the kids. Sending them to Pastner and now Tubby is not in the best interest of the kids.

Based on what? All it takes is one incredible recruiting class and Tiger basketball could get turned around. If what's "best" for the kids is related to their chances to compete for a national championship or make the NBA then you might as well play the percentages and argue that it would never be best to send them to their hometown University.

Based on how many of Tubby Smith's players are playing in the pros right now? How many are first round picks? Has he had any since he left KY? The future of these young men are at stake. Even his fabulous Texas Tech teams and Minnesota teams failed to produce 1st round picks.
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