Week 4 results:

Syracuse - LSU
Notre Dame - Michigan State

There are no P5 vs. P5 non-con games in Weeks 5, 6, or 7. The only ones remaining in the regular season are 6 Notre Dame games (4 vs. ACC teams, 2 vs. Pac-12 teams) and the 4 ACC-SEC rivalry games in Week 13.

Remaining P5 vs. P5 games, all in Week 13:

Clemson at South Carolina

Florida State at Florida

Georgia at Georgia Tech

Louisville at Kentucky

Notre Dame at Stanford

(11-12-2017 01:42 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Remaining P5 vs. P5 games, all in Week 13:

Clemson at South Carolina

Florida State at Florida

Georgia at Georgia Tech

Louisville at Kentucky

Notre Dame at Stanford

I was looking at the overall out of conference record yesterday (not just P5-P5) and looked at 2006-2010 before the most recent realignment. There was the SEC at the top, the Big 12, Big East and Big 10 in a 2nd tier with those 3 capturing all the 2nd and 3rd place slots, then the Pac 10, ACC and MWC in a 3rd tier, with CUSA a clear 8th, MAC 9th, Sun Belt 10th. If you gave 10 points for the best record down to 1 for the worst for each of those 5 years, the "Poll" came out like this:
1. SEC 50 (5 firsts)
2. Big 12 39
2. Big East/AAC 39
4. Big 10 38
5. Pac 10 30
6. ACC 25
7. MWC 24
8. CUSA 15 (5 straight 8th places)
9. MAC 9
10. SB 6

Obviously the conferences have different strength of schedules ooc, but it does give you some general information on conference strength.

(11-12-2017 06:40 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-12-2017 01:42 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Remaining P5 vs. P5 games, all in Week 13:

Clemson at South Carolina

Florida State at Florida

Georgia at Georgia Tech

Louisville at Kentucky

Notre Dame at Stanford

I was looking at the overall out of conference record yesterday (not just P5-P5) and looked at 2006-2010 before the most recent realignment. There was the SEC at the top, the Big 12, Big East and Big 10 in a 2nd tier with those 3 capturing all the 2nd and 3rd place slots, then the Pac 10, ACC and MWC in a 3rd tier, with CUSA a clear 8th, MAC 9th, Sun Belt 10th. If you gave 10 points for the best record down to 1 for the worst for each of those 5 years, the "Poll" came out like this:
1. SEC 50 (5 firsts)
2. Big 12 39
2. Big East/AAC 39
4. Big 10 38
5. Pac 10 30
6. ACC 25
7. MWC 24
8. CUSA 15 (5 straight 8th places)
9. MAC 9
10. SB 6

Obviously the conferences have different strength of schedules ooc, but it does give you some general information on conference strength.

Your polling methods may not be the most scientific, but it does show that the Big East was strong conference. Its biggest issues were traveling attendance (other than WVU) and the weird years where a complete dark horse could win the conference and the slot in a BCS bowl. I wouldn't want to say it was a tweener, because 90% of the time did belong with the big boys, but there were just those peculiarities.

(11-15-2017 01:42 PM)megadrone Wrote:  

(11-12-2017 06:40 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-12-2017 01:42 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Remaining P5 vs. P5 games, all in Week 13:

Clemson at South Carolina

Florida State at Florida

Georgia at Georgia Tech

Louisville at Kentucky

Notre Dame at Stanford

I was looking at the overall out of conference record yesterday (not just P5-P5) and looked at 2006-2010 before the most recent realignment. There was the SEC at the top, the Big 12, Big East and Big 10 in a 2nd tier with those 3 capturing all the 2nd and 3rd place slots, then the Pac 10, ACC and MWC in a 3rd tier, with CUSA a clear 8th, MAC 9th, Sun Belt 10th. If you gave 10 points for the best record down to 1 for the worst for each of those 5 years, the "Poll" came out like this:
1. SEC 50 (5 firsts)
2. Big 12 39
2. Big East/AAC 39
4. Big 10 38
5. Pac 10 30
6. ACC 25
7. MWC 24
8. CUSA 15 (5 straight 8th places)
9. MAC 9
10. SB 6

Obviously the conferences have different strength of schedules ooc, but it does give you some general information on conference strength.

Your polling methods may not be the most scientific, but it does show that the Big East was strong conference. Its biggest issues were traveling attendance (other than WVU) and the weird years where a complete dark horse could win the conference and the slot in a BCS bowl. I wouldn't want to say it was a tweener, because 90% of the time did belong with the big boys, but there were just those peculiarities.

Big East 2 was underrated. Part of it was the very top wasn't quite as good. But on average they were competitive with the rest of the BCS.

(11-12-2017 01:42 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Remaining P5 vs. P5 games, all in Week 13:

Clemson at South Carolina

Florida State at Florida

Georgia at Georgia Tech

Louisville at Kentucky

Notre Dame at Stanford

The away team won all four of the ACC-SEC rivalry games this year.

And with those results, the final 2017 season standings are:

Pac-12 7-3

Big Ten 7-6

SEC 7-9

Big 12 4-6

ACC 9-13

(09-04-2017 10:51 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Final standings for this season:

Pac-12 7-3

Big Ten 7-6

SEC 7-9

Big 12 4-6

ACC 9-13

Don't bowls count too?

(11-28-2017 12:01 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-04-2017 10:51 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Final standings for this season:

Pac-12 7-3

Big Ten 7-6

SEC 7-9

Big 12 4-6

ACC 9-13

Don't bowls count too?

IMO bowls should be a separate category. But we can add them in.

(11-28-2017 01:21 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(11-28-2017 12:01 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-04-2017 10:51 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Final standings for this season:

Pac-12 7-3

Big Ten 7-6

SEC 7-9

Big 12 4-6

ACC 9-13

Don't bowls count too?

IMO bowls should be a separate category. But we can add them in.

These are listed in wrong order:

The Order should be:

PAC 12: 7-3; 70.00 % WP
Big Ten: 7-6; 53.8% WP
SEC: 7-9; 43.8% WP
ACC: 9-13; 40.9% WP
Big 12: 4-6; 40.0% WP