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What is the cut off date for being a newbie to FBS football?
I would say 2000.

So, newbies in our conference would be UTSA, Charlotte, FIU, FAU, Western Ky, and UAB?
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RE: What is the cut off date for being a newbie to FBS football?
Well, if 2000 was the cutoff date, everyone but USM and UAB are noobs
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RE: What is the cut off date for being a newbie to FBS football?
(08-19-2017 03:42 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Well, if 2000 was the cutoff date, everyone but USM and UAB are noobs

This is one of those "look at me" where the topic poster picks a date that best fits his or her school....

Most people pick a frame of time like 10, 15, 20, 25 when this person picked a random number like 17 (well 17 in the books 18 this season) I knew Middle must be the year before.

Sure enough Middle moved up in 1999 03-lmfao
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RE: What is the cut off date for being a newbie to FBS football?
(08-19-2017 04:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(08-19-2017 03:42 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Well, if 2000 was the cutoff date, everyone but USM and UAB are noobs

This is one of those "look at me" where the topic poster picks a date that best fits his or her school....

Most people pick a frame of time like 10, 15, 20, 25 when this person picked a random number like 17 (well 17 in the books 18 this season) I knew Middle must have be the year before.

Sure enough Middle moved up in 1999 03-lmfao

Crap.....yeah, I was thinking joining CUSA...clearly my brain isn't working today... but you make a good point..
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RE: What is the cut off date for being a newbie to FBS football?
I would say 20 years.
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RE: What is the cut off date for being a newbie to FBS football?
(08-19-2017 04:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(08-19-2017 03:42 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Well, if 2000 was the cutoff date, everyone but USM and UAB are noobs

This is one of those "look at me" where the topic poster picks a date that best fits his or her school....

Most people pick a frame of time like 10, 15, 20, 25 when this person picked a random number like 17 (well 17 in the books 18 this season) I knew Middle must be the year before.

Sure enough Middle moved up in 1999 03-lmfao

Knowing our timeline well, I of course noticed this right away.

In partial credit to the OP, I think a somewhat rational explanation for 18 seaaons would be that at that point the majority of your incoming freshmen class would have been born in your FBS era.

On the flip side, perhaps you could argue 22-23 seasons thusly insuring the majority of your roster beimg born during your FBS era.

But the OP fan didn't say anything about that, so I expect you are right in your explanation.

I honestly think an argument could be made for ten years, I mean by the end of your first decade of FBS ball, you should have checked off most of your "firsts" and you're five years removed from any of your FCS era recruits still being on the team.

But of course this is all subjective and ultimately meaningless, I mean what does being a "FBS newbie" even mean in practical terms? ODU is newer to football than either MT or Western is to FBS and that hasn't stopped them from being a oft mentioned contender along side the two of us for the east this year.
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clt says Charlotte is newbs.
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RE: What is the cut off date for being a newbie to FBS football?
(08-19-2017 04:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(08-19-2017 03:42 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Well, if 2000 was the cutoff date, everyone but USM and UAB are noobs

This is one of those "look at me" where the topic poster picks a date that best fits his or her school....

Most people pick a frame of time like 10, 15, 20, 25 when this person picked a random number like 17 (well 17 in the books 18 this season) I knew Middle must be the year before.

Sure enough Middle moved up in 1999 03-lmfao

I wouldn't exactly call the year 2000 a random cut off period. Seems like a nice clean cut off date to me. It just seems like we came along in a different era with Marshall and UAB (the first time). Our schools were sandwiched in the middle between schools that have been D1 for years like Southern Miss, Rice, and UTEP and schools like yours that have only been playing D1 ball a few years now.
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RE: What is the cut off date for being a newbie to FBS football?
Rice, USM,UTEP, and Tech before 1990's
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RE: What is the cut off date for being a newbie to FBS football?
I don't consider any school that has played football for a hundred years plus but made the move up from fcs to fbs in recent decades to be a newbie. I think of schools that had nothing in regards to football. I tend to think of a newbie as something around ten years, maybe fifteen. Maybe on only the second set of head coach/AD, still struggling to compete for a championship, attendance issues, facility issues, and other programs struggling as well.
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Anyone who moved up after LA Tech is not legit IMO.
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As soon as you have a ten-win season. 05-mafia

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(08-19-2017 04:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(08-19-2017 03:42 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Well, if 2000 was the cutoff date, everyone but USM and UAB are noobs

This is one of those "look at me" where the topic poster picks a date that best fits his or her school....

If that is what we are doing, I pick 1960.
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8 years in FBS or 2 full FBS recruiting cycles.
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UAB is a charter, football-playing member of this conference.

The fiasco does not erase the teams before it.
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RE: What is the cut off date for being a newbie to FBS football?
(08-20-2017 09:05 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  Anyone who moved up after LA Tech is not legit IMO.

LMAO. So, Akron and UNLV are legit but Boise St and South Florida aren't? 01-wingedeagle

So, what exactly happened between 1989 and 2000 that makes those schools so much more legit - you know - in your opinion.
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I think this is directly related to success and perception... I don't think many thought of us as a newbie in 1998 or 1999.... conversely, a program that moves up and gets plastered for years gets the "Daggone newbie call ups don't belong" label
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RE: What is the cut off date for being a newbie to FBS football?
Marshall jumped to IA after the 1996 season after going 15-0 that season. In their 3rd season in 1999 they went 13-0 and finished ranked 10th in the nation in the final polls. Is that really a newbie then.
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