Tigernole, Even when proven wrong, u can't admit u are wrong. U r no better than tigerscane. Must be a hybrid fan thing. This is exactly why I have you on ignore and don't read 99% of your posts.

You were wrong. Again, there was no reason for less people to show last night except for the opponent. If we played your other team Florida State, there would have been more fans there. Everyone knows that or is in denial because they don't wanna be wrong.

(09-24-2017 09:57 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(09-24-2017 09:25 AM)tmoneyinmphs Wrote:  Tigernole, u r such a tool. Just admit u were wrong and move on. The opponent does effect attendance and last night proved it. Everthing was in favor of a larger crowd except the opponent.

Wait... how am I wrong?! I said that the opponent is NOT the biggest factor in attendance, unless it is ole miss or ut? Last night proved that I was right.

I won't even begin to count the ways you are a tool, but nice try.

Elizabeth Barrett Browning reference! Awesome.

**** like this is why I come here.

(09-24-2017 10:10 AM)tmoneyinmphs Wrote:  Tigernole, Even when proven wrong, u can't admit u are wrong. U r no better than tigerscane. Must be a hybrid fan thing. This is exactly why I have you on ignore and don't read 99% of your posts.

You were wrong. Again, there was no reason for less people to show last night except for the opponent. If we played your other team Florida State, there would have been more fans there. Everyone knows that or is in denial because they don't wanna be wrong.

Wait, first, you have me on ignore and yet respond to my post?!!

Second, if you read this thread at all, the ONLY reason Tiger fans apparently show up in numbers is when we play a P5 opponent. Which is why some nimrods think we must schedule at least two P5s per year.... So, playing a ranked UCLA team draws 46,000 and playing a FCS team draws 41,000 and yet somehow I was proven wrong!?!!

Your stick would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic.

Perhaps FSU would've drawn 4 or 5,000 more... is it worth it to give up and 7th home game every other season?!! NO!!!! Not to mention the heightened chances of a loss. An undefeated, ranked Memphis team draws... period!! If we are undefeated the last two games of the season, the weather is remotely decent and we don't draw 40,000 minimum for those games, I will never post here again.
However, if we are and do... you and idiots of your ilk have to admit that you are wrong.

Insults ignored.

U still haven't explained why we had 5000 less fans last night.

Actually I don't care if I was wrong I still wanna play the big conference schools as much as possible like we used to do. When I saw the crowd last night I was wondering the actual count. It was a better crowd than I expected. When i was at the game, i was thinking I might have to say I'm wrong today until they announced 5000 less. With all the favorable conditions like Saturday night game, better weather, homecoming and an undefeated season so far, I don't see any reason for a drop in attendance other than the opponent we were playing.

tigernole, u r one CLUELESS dude if u don't think playing quality opponents affects attendance, especially if u got a decent team.
I bet you'll really enjoy the crowds at the b.ball games when the cupcakes play, we might get crowds of 5K for some of those games, you'll like that. U can buy a cheap seat and move around.
Quality opponents will make our program stronger. Remember lewisville, Miami and FL state

Damn, there are some really dumb comments on this thread.

(09-24-2017 03:17 PM)tmoneyinmphs Wrote:  Insults ignored.

U still haven't explained why we had 5000 less fans last night.

Actually I don't care if I was wrong I still wanna play the big conference schools as much as possible like we used to do. When I saw the crowd last night I was wondering the actual count. It was a better crowd than I expected. When i was at the game, i was thinking I might have to say I'm wrong today until they announced 5000 less. With all the favorable conditions like Saturday night game, better weather, homecoming and an undefeated season so far, I don't see any reason for a drop in attendance other than the opponent we were playing.

Wait, so you are honestly telling me that a 5,000 fan drop off is proof that YOU are right!?! Between a 25th ranked UCLA team being broadcast nationally and a FCS team that isn't the start of the season, isn't a Kroger $5 game... and you think 5,000 fans somehow justifies the fact that we should play at minimum two P5 games per year?!!

I would've admitted defeat if there had only been 30,000 at the game. On a Facebook thread there were plenty of people that were predicting in the 20,000s.... but yet 41,000+ indicates that opponents are the only reason Tiger fans show up.

It has been, and STILL is, my assertion that winning is THE primary draw. We have a growing fan base that will simply support this program regardless, but Memphis will show up for a winner. I was told that fans only show up against P5 opponents, that was proven false.

I think 41k for an FCS opponent is absolutely outstanding, even for a hyped-up season opener. I was hoping it wouldn't be under 30. I watched that SIU game preview video and one of them was talking about the extra challenges the Salukis would face playing us and he mentioned that the Liberty Bowl seats over 55 thousand. I thought "Yeah, but it won't be half full, so they don't have to worry about a large noisy crowd."

I guess there are a lot of people who are coming out to see good football by a team that wins. Yes, I know they were disappointed in a lot of what they witnessed, but 5 years ago there is NO WAY we would have had 41k for SIU. I was about to say "But I hope we don't ever play an FCS team again", then the thought occurred to me of what our QB situation will be next year, starting a guy with very little or no game experience, so an FCS opener would be ideal.

No jinx, no jinx, no jinx!

(09-24-2017 10:25 PM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  I think 41k for an FCS opponent is absolutely outstanding, even for a hyped-up season opener. I was hoping it wouldn't be under 30. I watched that SIU game preview video and one of them was talking about the extra challenges the Salukis would face playing us and he mentioned that the Liberty Bowl seats over 55 thousand. I thought "Yeah, but it won't be half full, so they don't have to worry about a large noisy crowd."

I guess there are a lot of people who are coming out to see good football by a team that wins. Yes, I know they were disappointed in a lot of what they witnessed, but 5 years ago there is NO WAY we would have had 41k for SIU. I was about to say "But I hope we don't ever play an FCS team again", then the thought occurred to me of what our QB situation will be next year, starting a guy with very little or no game experience, so an FCS opener would be ideal.

No jinx, no jinx, no jinx!

I'm not worried about next year.... yet. We've lost 7 starters on defense with two more contributors. Not sure how many teams could lose 9 on their two deep and still be doing relatively well.

Before anyone says how bad our defense did the last two weeks, wait until the end of the season and see how good those two offenses are. I think we did an excellent job of bending but not breaking. We will see how far we've come on Saturday. UCF will be one the bigger test this year.

(09-25-2017 12:17 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(09-24-2017 10:25 PM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  I think 41k for an FCS opponent is absolutely outstanding, even for a hyped-up season opener. I was hoping it wouldn't be under 30. I watched that SIU game preview video and one of them was talking about the extra challenges the Salukis would face playing us and he mentioned that the Liberty Bowl seats over 55 thousand. I thought "Yeah, but it won't be half full, so they don't have to worry about a large noisy crowd."

I guess there are a lot of people who are coming out to see good football by a team that wins. Yes, I know they were disappointed in a lot of what they witnessed, but 5 years ago there is NO WAY we would have had 41k for SIU. I was about to say "But I hope we don't ever play an FCS team again", then the thought occurred to me of what our QB situation will be next year, starting a guy with very little or no game experience, so an FCS opener would be ideal.

No jinx, no jinx, no jinx!

I'm not worried about next year.... yet. We've lost 7 starters on defense with two more contributors. Not sure how many teams could lose 9 on their two deep and still be doing relatively well.

Before anyone says how bad our defense did the last two weeks, wait until the end of the season and see how good those two offenses are. I think we did an excellent job of bending but not breaking. We will see how far we've come on Saturday. UCF will be one the bigger test this year.

Overall, your point is valid. But I have critical thoughts on specific players and their efforts (especially in the secondary) on a majority of the plays. Like letting the opposing receivers catch balls on a 5 yard cushion, they KNOW the ball is being thrown to their man, yet they don't even attempt to close the gap on them until after the catch is made. So they just wait their and allow the 5 YAC and get faked out for another 5 yards or miss the tackle all together. Yet when the game is on the line, somehow they can play tight and knock balls away. That is TOTALLY effort.

(09-25-2017 12:34 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 12:17 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(09-24-2017 10:25 PM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  I think 41k for an FCS opponent is absolutely outstanding, even for a hyped-up season opener. I was hoping it wouldn't be under 30. I watched that SIU game preview video and one of them was talking about the extra challenges the Salukis would face playing us and he mentioned that the Liberty Bowl seats over 55 thousand. I thought "Yeah, but it won't be half full, so they don't have to worry about a large noisy crowd."

I guess there are a lot of people who are coming out to see good football by a team that wins. Yes, I know they were disappointed in a lot of what they witnessed, but 5 years ago there is NO WAY we would have had 41k for SIU. I was about to say "But I hope we don't ever play an FCS team again", then the thought occurred to me of what our QB situation will be next year, starting a guy with very little or no game experience, so an FCS opener would be ideal.

No jinx, no jinx, no jinx!

I'm not worried about next year.... yet. We've lost 7 starters on defense with two more contributors. Not sure how many teams could lose 9 on their two deep and still be doing relatively well.

Before anyone says how bad our defense did the last two weeks, wait until the end of the season and see how good those two offenses are. I think we did an excellent job of bending but not breaking. We will see how far we've come on Saturday. UCF will be one the bigger test this year.

Overall, your point is valid. But I have critical thoughts on specific players and their efforts (especially in the secondary) on a majority of the plays. Like letting the opposing receivers catch balls on a 5 yard cushion, they KNOW the ball is being thrown to their man, yet they don't even attempt to close the gap on them until after the catch is made. So they just wait their and allow the 5 YAC and get faked out for another 5 yards or miss the tackle all together. Yet when the game is on the line, somehow they can play tight and knock balls away. That is TOTALLY effort.

Don't confuse effort with scheme. If we are one or two deep man, then your point is pretty valid. We don't usually play that. We play a hybrid zone more than not. We don't play a lot of aggressive bump and run man.... but, I do share your frustration and wish they would change up. In their defense, we are pretty thin in the secondary though. Don't want them to run out of gas in the 4th.