We can talk about the 1970 or 60s or 50s....or we can compare the schools winning today

2016
Alabama 14
Clemson 14
Western Michigan 13
Washington 12
Ohio State 11
Western Kentucky 11
Oklahoma 11
San Diego State 11
Wisconsin 11
South Florida 11
Penn State 11
Stanford 10
Appalachian State 10
Florida State 10
Oklahoma State 10
Michigan 10
Temple 10
Boise State 10
USC 10
Air Force 10
West Virginia 10
Virginia Tech 10
Tulsa 10
Old Dominion 10
Troy 10
Colorado 10
Houston 9
Navy 9
Toledo 9
Utah 9
Florida 9
Brigham Young 9
Louisiana Tech 9
Tennessee 9
Louisville 9
Miami (FL) 9
New Mexico 9
Nebraska 9
Kansas State 9
Minnesota 9
Idaho 9
Georgia Tech 9


Over the last 2 seasons total combined wins.

Alabama 28
Clemson 28
Ohio State 23
Western Kentucky 23
Oklahoma 22
Stanford 22
Houston 22
San Diego State 22
Wisconsin 21
Western Michigan 21
Appalachian State 21
Florida State 20
Navy 20
Oklahoma State 20
Iowa 20
Michigan 20
Temple 20
Boise State 19
Washington 19
Toledo 19
Utah 19
North Carolina 19
Florida 19
South Florida 19
USC 18
Georgia 18
Brigham Young 18
Penn State 18
Louisiana Tech 18
Air Force 18
Tennessee 18
West Virginia 18


Western is tied with Boise St for most combined wins over the last 4 seasons in the G5 and 8th overall ...39.

*only played 3 seasons

Alabama 51
Clemson 49
Ohio State 49
Florida State 47
Oklahoma 41
Stanford 41
Wisconsin 41
Western Kentucky 39
Baylor 39
Boise State 39
Michigan State 39
Houston 38
Louisville 38
Navy 37
Oklahoma State 37
Oregon 37
San Diego State 37
USC 37
Georgia 36
Marshall 36
Northern Illinois 36
Washington 36
Auburn 35
Iowa 35
LSU 35
Toledo 35
Brigham Young 34
Nebraska 33
Texas A&M 33
Texas Christian 33
Utah 33
Arkansas State 32
Bowling Green State 32
Colorado State 32
Kansas State 32
Miami (FL) 32
Michigan 32
Mississippi State 32
Missouri 32
North Carolina 32
Ole Miss 32
Penn State 32
UCLA 32
Virginia Tech 32
Arizona State 31
Duke 31
Louisiana Tech 31
Minnesota 31
Notre Dame 31
Air Force 30
Florida 30
Georgia Tech 30
Memphis 30
Tennessee 30
Western Michigan 30
Cincinnati 29
Middle Tennessee State 29
Ohio 29
Pitt 29
West Virginia 29
Appalachian State 28*
Arizona 28
Louisiana-Lafayette 28
Temple 28
Utah State 28
Northwestern 27
South Carolina 27
UCF 27
Central Michigan 26
East Carolina 26
Rice 26
Washington State 26
Arkansas 25
North Carolina State 25
South Florida 25
Boston College 24
Texas 24
Texas Tech 24
Akron 23
Georgia Southern 23*
Maryland 23
Nevada 23
New Mexico 23
South Alabama 23
Troy 23
Ball State 22
Vanderbilt 22
Fresno State 21
Indiana 21
Old Dominion 21*
Tulsa 21
Buffalo 20
Colorado 20
Rutgers 20
Southern Mississippi 20
UTSA 20
California 19
Kentucky 19
North Texas 19
San Jose State 19
Wyoming 19
Illinois 18
Oregon State 18
Syracuse 18
Texas State 18
UTEP 18
Army 17
Tulane 17
Wake Forest 17
Louisiana-Monroe 16
Nevada-Las Vegas 16
Florida Atlantic 15
Hawaii 15
Idaho 15
Connecticut 14
Florida International 14
SMU 13
Virginia 13
Eastern Michigan 12
Kent State 12
Iowa State 11
Miami (OH) 11
Georgia State 10
New Mexico State 10
Massachusetts 9
Purdue 9
Kansas 8

Or -- we could look at all time

Top Ten Teams - All Time Winning Percentage

Michigan .730
Notre Dame .728
Ohio State .724 127
Boise State .724
Alabama .721
Oklahoma .721
Texas .707
USC .701
Nebraska .699
Old Dominion .691

Oh, and by the way -- the top twenty all time winning active coaches in college football

1. Urban Meyer - Ohio State .855
2. Tom Herman - Texas .846
3. Lance Leipold - Buffalo .835
4. Jimbo Fisher - Florida State .830
5. Chris Petersen - Washington .826
6. Bob Stoops - Oklahoma .797
7. David Shaw - Stanford .788
8. Nick Saban - Alabama .776
9. Dabo Swinney - Clemson .757
10.Jeff Brohm - Purdue .750
11. Gary Patterson - TCU .738
12. Mark Richt - Miami .737
13. Bryan Harsin - Boise State .731
14. Bobby Petrino - Louisville .722
15. Brian Kelly - Notre Dame .722
16. Chuck Martin - Miami (Ohio) .720
17. Jason Candle - Toledo .714
18. Jim Harbaugh - Michigan .709
19. Kalani Sitake - BYU .692
20. Bobby Wilder - Old Dominion .691

http://www.coacheshotseat.com/Winningest...chesIA.htm

And current C-USA coaches winning percentages - total / C-USA

Bobby Wilder – Old Dominion (69.1% / 56.8%) 8 years
Butch Davis – Florida International (64.8% / n/a) 11 years
Bill Clark – UAB (63% / 50%) 5 years
Jay Hopson – Southern Mississippi (63.9% / 53.8%) 3 years
Lane Kiffen – Florida Atlantic (62.5 % / n/a) 5 years
Skip Holtz – LA Tech (59.1% / 58.5%) 17 years
Doc Holliday – Marshall (58.9% / 58.9%) 7 years
Rick Stockstill – Middle Tennessee (52.2% / 52.2%) 11 years
David Baliff – Rice (47.8% / 44.8%) 13 years
Frank Wilson – UTSA (46.2% / 46.2%) 1 year
Seth Littrell – North Texas (38.5% / 38.5%) 1 year
Sean Kugler – UTEP (36.7% / 36.7%) 4 years
Brad Lambert – Charlotte (34.8% / 34.8%) 4 years
Mike Sanford – Western Kentucky (n/a / n/a) 0 years

Just saying

lol

WKU should have been ranked this past season and year before except the coaches for some reason do not like us or respect us...

(08-14-2017 12:25 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  WKU should have been ranked this past season and year before except the coaches for some reason do not like us or respect us...

You guys lose all your P5 games. That's why you were never ranked.

(08-14-2017 12:35 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  

(08-14-2017 12:25 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  WKU should have been ranked this past season and year before except the coaches for some reason do not like us or respect us...

You guys lose all your P5 games. That's why you were never ranked.

Western was 1-1 vs P5 year before last and was ranked in the AP . I believe the AP is the more respected poll out of the two.

San Diego State after getting the dog crap stomp out of them bu USA and losing to a couple MWC schools (8-6 & 7-6) should never been ranked at the end of the year. They played a weak (weaker than Western's) schedule 114th out of 128

But giving a game away to Vandy hurt. A game Western wins by 21+ points if not for 2 turnovers inside the 10 and a missed short fg

Quick question. Who is the first poster to throw long term history around when recent history sucks (i.e. wkcc basketball) but is then the first to revert to only recent history when that's most convenient (i.e. two years of wkcc football)?

(08-14-2017 01:42 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Quick question. Who is the first poster to throw long term history around when recent history sucks (i.e. wkcc basketball) but is then the first to revert to only recent history when that's most convenient (i.e. two years of wkcc football)?

History is very important but it becomes less and less of a factor if you have 20,30,40 or 50 years between the times you last "did something"

So even in a down period (by Western's standards) Western basketball still won. Hell most schools in this conference would take 2 ncaa bids and three 20 win seasons along with 18 over the last 6 years... give their coach a raise. Hell Middle did just that without the ncaa bids and one 19 win season. Worked out fairly well

I can go back to 6 years out of the 9 Western played FBS and the wins over that period would still be in the top 20 (probably top 15) of all schools and one of the top 5 G5 programs.

(08-13-2017 03:12 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(08-13-2017 02:51 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  No ranking for UNT in any 1970's AP college football poll.

This ranking is based on the UPI and Coaches Polls.

To answer your question..

November 19, 1977.

North Texas was ranked 14th in the Coaches Poll when we beat LA Tech by a score of 41-14.

This is true. I remember this. I was a sports writer on LA Tech's college paper at the time. North Texas State was ranked 14th in the UPI (not the "UIP" as Dawgxas called it, LOL!) poll, and had an EXCELLENT football team. Coach Hayden Fry brought his NTSU team to Ruston and spanked us like children. It was LA Tech's only loss in the 1977 season (but we had two tie games, believe it or not). The Dogs finished that season 9-1-2, including a victory over Louisville in the 1977 Independence bowl.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/sch...edule.html

This loss to North Texas State was only LA Tech's 12th between the end of the 1970 season and 1978. It capped a remarkable 7-year run for LA Tech, in which the Dogs posted a 67-12 overall record (85% winning percentage), won 3 NCAA National football championships, 5 Southland Conference football championships and a bowl game over Louisville.

Man, the WKU puffery on this site has gotten ridiculous. Enjoy it while it last, guys.

(08-14-2017 06:09 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  Man, the WKU puffery on this site has gotten ridiculous. Enjoy it while it last, guys.

I certainly am! Thanks.

Great program FOR 3 YEARS TOPPERS!

Poor ol' Miss. Southern "lives in the past" ya know, but we went to 14 bowl games in 15 years....Dominated NOT Charlotte, N Texas or FL Int'l Airport, but Houston, Memphis, East Carolina, SMU , USF and UCF....Had 2 small college National championships back in dem days when you weren't playing Delta St., Valdosta, or Sul Ross, but FL State, Memphis and Alabama....Beat Top 20 teams with regularity...all while playing 99% of all BIG games on the road.

So right now you're the Boston Red Sox of C-USA, while we're the NY Yankees. You got the braggin' rights right now, BUT WE'VE GOT THE BANNERS, THE HISTORY AND BOUCOUP NFL PLAYERS THAT YOU'LL NEVER TOUCH!

Thing is, football is a lot like life----some folks brag about what they've done from 21 to 24 years old----as if they've accomplished EVERYTHING----while others look back at a full lifetime of mostly hard work and success, with a few bad times thrown in there just to make things interesting.

Our bad times happened when the "Sox" got hot...but the good times will be rollin' again SOON!

(08-14-2017 09:28 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  Great program FOR 3 YEARS TOPPERS!

Poor ol' Miss. Southern "lives in the past" ya know, but we went to 14 bowl games in 15 years....Dominated NOT Charlotte, N Texas or FL Int'l Airport, but Houston, Memphis, East Carolina, SMU , USF and UCF....Had 2 small college National championships back in dem days when you weren't playing Delta St., Valdosta, or Sul Ross, but FL State, Memphis and Alabama....Beat Top 20 teams with regularity...all while playing 99% of all BIG games on the road.

So right now you're the Boston Red Sox of C-USA, while we're the NY Yankees. You got the braggin' rights right now, BUT WE'VE GOT THE BANNERS, THE HISTORY AND BOUCOUP NFL PLAYERS THAT YOU'LL NEVER TOUCH!

Thing is, football is a lot like life----some folks brag about what they've done from 21 to 24 years old----as if they've accomplished EVERYTHING----while others look back at a full lifetime of mostly hard work and success, with a few bad times thrown in there just to make things interesting.

Our bad times happened when the "Sox" got hot...but the good times will be rollin' again SOON!

Let me repeat this again....

history is important but it gets less important or a factor with every year a team fails to repeat that history.

If your good history is 20+ years old only old people are even going to remember it. The rest will see you for what you done lately.

Now do I really need to bring up the record of ...

Memphis
Houston
SMU
USF

Hey anyone can play Fsu or bama or any other top program if they are willing to take a check...

S. Miss won 3 of the 33 games vs Bama. Now we are not talking Bama 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013. We are talking Bama 6-5 type teams. S. Miss won 2 of 14 vs FSU. But just as with Bama we are not talking national championship type team.

Maybe S. Miss fans should be more concerned with Charlotte who beat the dog crap out of your team. Than a game or two they won 30+ years ago.

Just a quick look at Houston vs S.miss
Below are the number of wins Houston had when S. Miss beat them
3
3
3
0
7
3
10
5
13

10 years or so ago you could get away with talking about all the times you beat those great Houston teams. Not today...GOOGLE is the truth. So 6 out of the 9 times S. Miss beat Houston they had a losing record...Houston won 3 games 4 times, 0 once and 5 the other.

I love it when fans act like today's results were the same team they beat 20 or 30 years ago.

If we are playing that game...Western is 2-0 vs Miami (Fl)

As I said I would be more worried about today and beating Charlotte a program that did not have a football team 6 years ago. Or UNT a school that's won 6 games over 2 seasons...one being S. Miss. Or UTSA another school that did not have a FB program 10 years ago

(08-14-2017 10:07 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-14-2017 09:28 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  Great program FOR 3 YEARS TOPPERS!

Poor ol' Miss. Southern "lives in the past" ya know, but we went to 14 bowl games in 15 years....Dominated NOT Charlotte, N Texas or FL Int'l Airport, but Houston, Memphis, East Carolina, SMU , USF and UCF....Had 2 small college National championships back in dem days when you weren't playing Delta St., Valdosta, or Sul Ross, but FL State, Memphis and Alabama....Beat Top 20 teams with regularity...all while playing 99% of all BIG games on the road.

So right now you're the Boston Red Sox of C-USA, while we're the NY Yankees. You got the braggin' rights right now, BUT WE'VE GOT THE BANNERS, THE HISTORY AND BOUCOUP NFL PLAYERS THAT YOU'LL NEVER TOUCH!

Thing is, football is a lot like life----some folks brag about what they've done from 21 to 24 years old----as if they've accomplished EVERYTHING----while others look back at a full lifetime of mostly hard work and success, with a few bad times thrown in there just to make things interesting.

Our bad times happened when the "Sox" got hot...but the good times will be rollin' again SOON!

Let me repeat this again....

history is important but it gets less important or a factor with every year a team fails to repeat that history.

If your good history is 20+ years old only old people are even going to remember it. The rest will see you for what you done lately.

Now do I really need to bring up the record of ...

Memphis
Houston
SMU
USF

Hey anyone can play Fsu or bama or any other top program if they are willing to take a check...

S. Miss won 3 of the 33 games vs Bama. Now we are not talking Bama 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013. We are talking Bama 6-5 type teams. S. Miss won 2 of 14 vs FSU. But just as with Bama we are not talking national championship type team.

Maybe S. Miss fans should be more concerned with Charlotte who beat the dog crap out of your team. Than a game or two they won 30+ years ago.

Just a quick look at Houston vs S.miss
Below are the number of wins Houston had when S. Miss beat them
3
3
3
0
7
3
10
5
13

10 years or so ago you could get away with talking about all the times you beat those great Houston teams. Not today...GOOGLE is the truth. So 6 out of the 9 times S. Miss beat Houston they had a losing record...Houston won 3 games 4 times, 0 once and 5 the other.

I love it when fans act like today's results were the same team they beat 20 or 30 years ago.

If we are playing that game...Western is 2-0 vs Miami (Fl)

As I said I would be more worried about today and beating Charlotte a program that did not have a football team 6 years ago. Or UNT a school that's won 6 games over 2 seasons...one being S. Miss. Or UTSA another school that did not have a FB program 10 years ago

Hurts don't it?

(08-14-2017 10:22 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  

(08-14-2017 10:07 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-14-2017 09:28 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  Great program FOR 3 YEARS TOPPERS!

Poor ol' Miss. Southern "lives in the past" ya know, but we went to 14 bowl games in 15 years....Dominated NOT Charlotte, N Texas or FL Int'l Airport, but Houston, Memphis, East Carolina, SMU , USF and UCF....Had 2 small college National championships back in dem days when you weren't playing Delta St., Valdosta, or Sul Ross, but FL State, Memphis and Alabama....Beat Top 20 teams with regularity...all while playing 99% of all BIG games on the road.

So right now you're the Boston Red Sox of C-USA, while we're the NY Yankees. You got the braggin' rights right now, BUT WE'VE GOT THE BANNERS, THE HISTORY AND BOUCOUP NFL PLAYERS THAT YOU'LL NEVER TOUCH!

Thing is, football is a lot like life----some folks brag about what they've done from 21 to 24 years old----as if they've accomplished EVERYTHING----while others look back at a full lifetime of mostly hard work and success, with a few bad times thrown in there just to make things interesting.

Our bad times happened when the "Sox" got hot...but the good times will be rollin' again SOON!

Let me repeat this again....

history is important but it gets less important or a factor with every year a team fails to repeat that history.

If your good history is 20+ years old only old people are even going to remember it. The rest will see you for what you done lately.

Now do I really need to bring up the record of ...

Memphis
Houston
SMU
USF

Hey anyone can play Fsu or bama or any other top program if they are willing to take a check...

S. Miss won 3 of the 33 games vs Bama. Now we are not talking Bama 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013. We are talking Bama 6-5 type teams. S. Miss won 2 of 14 vs FSU. But just as with Bama we are not talking national championship type team.

Maybe S. Miss fans should be more concerned with Charlotte who beat the dog crap out of your team. Than a game or two they won 30+ years ago.

Just a quick look at Houston vs S.miss
Below are the number of wins Houston had when S. Miss beat them
3
3
3
0
7
3
10
5
13

10 years or so ago you could get away with talking about all the times you beat those great Houston teams. Not today...GOOGLE is the truth. So 6 out of the 9 times S. Miss beat Houston they had a losing record...Houston won 3 games 4 times, 0 once and 5 the other.

I love it when fans act like today's results were the same team they beat 20 or 30 years ago.

If we are playing that game...Western is 2-0 vs Miami (Fl)

As I said I would be more worried about today and beating Charlotte a program that did not have a football team 6 years ago. Or UNT a school that's won 6 games over 2 seasons...one being S. Miss. Or UTSA another school that did not have a FB program 10 years ago

Hurts don't it?

You can answer that question You are the one living in the past 20 or 30 years ago.

BTW What was it that you said..."Beat Top 20 teams with regularity" are you really sure about that? You did mean "played"? Below is the S. Miss's record vs top 25 schools over the last 20 years (1997-)

S. Miss is 5-26 and out of those 5 wins 4 were CUSA games and the other came vs Bama. A Bama team that finished 3-8

School the rank loss by (avg 19) won by

Western 24 17
Alabama 3 40
Marshall 23 46
Nebraska 22 43
Nebraska 17 29
Louisville 19 4
Houston 7.................... 21
UCF 25...................... 10
Kansas 20 7
Houston 15 17
Auburn 9 14
Boise State 15 17
Tennessee 24 20
Cincinnati 20 10
Florida 7 27
California 4 10
Nebraska 15 24
TCU 10............................. 12
Utah 25 17
Tennessee 13 3
Alabama (3-8) 15................... 21
TCU 13............................... 7
Nebraska 4 8
Texas A&M 5 17
Alabama 14 21
Penn State 13 28
Texas A&M 17 18
Florida 2 15
Alabama 21 14
Tennessee 8 24

(08-14-2017 10:07 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-14-2017 09:28 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  Great program FOR 3 YEARS TOPPERS!

Poor ol' Miss. Southern "lives in the past" ya know, but we went to 14 bowl games in 15 years....Dominated NOT Charlotte, N Texas or FL Int'l Airport, but Houston, Memphis, East Carolina, SMU , USF and UCF....Had 2 small college National championships back in dem days when you weren't playing Delta St., Valdosta, or Sul Ross, but FL State, Memphis and Alabama....Beat Top 20 teams with regularity...all while playing 99% of all BIG games on the road.

So right now you're the Boston Red Sox of C-USA, while we're the NY Yankees. You got the braggin' rights right now, BUT WE'VE GOT THE BANNERS, THE HISTORY AND BOUCOUP NFL PLAYERS THAT YOU'LL NEVER TOUCH!

Thing is, football is a lot like life----some folks brag about what they've done from 21 to 24 years old----as if they've accomplished EVERYTHING----while others look back at a full lifetime of mostly hard work and success, with a few bad times thrown in there just to make things interesting.

Our bad times happened when the "Sox" got hot...but the good times will be rollin' again SOON!

Let me repeat this again....

history is important but it gets less important or a factor with every year a team fails to repeat that history.

If your good history is 20+ years old only old people are even going to remember it. The rest will see you for what you done lately.

Now do I really need to bring up the record of ...

Memphis
Houston
SMU
USF

Hey anyone can play Fsu or bama or any other top program if they are willing to take a check...

S. Miss won 3 of the 33 games vs Bama. Now we are not talking Bama 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013. We are talking Bama 6-5 type teams. S. Miss won 2 of 14 vs FSU. But just as with Bama we are not talking national championship type team.

Maybe S. Miss fans should be more concerned with Charlotte who beat the dog crap out of your team. Than a game or two they won 30+ years ago.

Just a quick look at Houston vs S.miss
Below are the number of wins Houston had when S. Miss beat them
3
3
3
0
7
3
10
5
13

10 years or so ago you could get away with talking about all the times you beat those great Houston teams. Not today...GOOGLE is the truth. So 6 out of the 9 times S. Miss beat Houston they had a losing record...Houston won 3 games 4 times, 0 once and 5 the other.

I love it when fans act like today's results were the same team they beat 20 or 30 years ago.

If we are playing that game...Western is 2-0 vs Miami (Fl)

As I said I would be more worried about today and beating Charlotte a program that did not have a football team 6 years ago. Or UNT a school that's won 6 games over 2 seasons...one being S. Miss. Or UTSA another school that did not have a FB program 10 years ago

Yeah I would never include those former CUSA to make a point, SMU has been horrible for years so was Memphis and Houston up until Kevin Sumlin took over. CUSA went through a bad stretch in the 2000's but USM was decent and going to Bowls.
Meanwhile the WAC sent 3 teams to BCS bowls and CUSA sent 0 teams to BCS Bowls

(08-14-2017 10:07 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-14-2017 09:28 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  Great program FOR 3 YEARS TOPPERS!

Poor ol' Miss. Southern "lives in the past" ya know, but we went to 14 bowl games in 15 years....Dominated NOT Charlotte, N Texas or FL Int'l Airport, but Houston, Memphis, East Carolina, SMU , USF and UCF....Had 2 small college National championships back in dem days when you weren't playing Delta St., Valdosta, or Sul Ross, but FL State, Memphis and Alabama....Beat Top 20 teams with regularity...all while playing 99% of all BIG games on the road.

So right now you're the Boston Red Sox of C-USA, while we're the NY Yankees. You got the braggin' rights right now, BUT WE'VE GOT THE BANNERS, THE HISTORY AND BOUCOUP NFL PLAYERS THAT YOU'LL NEVER TOUCH!

Thing is, football is a lot like life----some folks brag about what they've done from 21 to 24 years old----as if they've accomplished EVERYTHING----while others look back at a full lifetime of mostly hard work and success, with a few bad times thrown in there just to make things interesting.

Our bad times happened when the "Sox" got hot...but the good times will be rollin' again SOON!

Let me repeat this again....

history is important but it gets less important or a factor with every year a team fails to repeat that history.

If your good history is 20+ years old only old people are even going to remember it. The rest will see you for what you done lately.

Now do I really need to bring up the record of ...

Memphis
Houston
SMU
USF

Hey anyone can play Fsu or bama or any other top program if they are willing to take a check...

S. Miss won 3 of the 33 games vs Bama. Now we are not talking Bama 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013. We are talking Bama 6-5 type teams. S. Miss won 2 of 14 vs FSU. But just as with Bama we are not talking national championship type team.

Maybe S. Miss fans should be more concerned with Charlotte who beat the dog crap out of your team. Than a game or two they won 30+ years ago.

Just a quick look at Houston vs S.miss
Below are the number of wins Houston had when S. Miss beat them
3
3
3
0
7
3
10
5
13

10 years or so ago you could get away with talking about all the times you beat those great Houston teams. Not today...GOOGLE is the truth. So 6 out of the 9 times S. Miss beat Houston they had a losing record...Houston won 3 games 4 times, 0 once and 5 the other.

I love it when fans act like today's results were the same team they beat 20 or 30 years ago.

If we are playing that game...Western is 2-0 vs Miami (Fl)

As I said I would be more worried about today and beating Charlotte a program that did not have a football team 6 years ago. Or UNT a school that's won 6 games over 2 seasons...one being S. Miss. Or UTSA another school that did not have a FB program 10 years ago

The subject of this thread is in regards to an article on 'All-Time Football Program Rankings'. Not, 'last 5 year football program rankings'. The fact that comments are being made that date back 20+ years are relevant, because 'all-time' would fall within that period (for some of CUSA). WKU only wants to focus on the last 3 years, and for good reason.

Just to correct your #s... USM is 6-35-2 against Alabama and 8-13-1 against FSU. Also 1-2-0 against LSU, 2-3-0 against Georgia and 4-5-0 against VT.

Alabama was ranked #13 when we beat them in '90 and 2000. #1 when we beat them in '53. We also ended their 19 year home winning streak in '82, so assuming they were pretty good then as well. FSU was ranked #6 when we beat them in '89. I would say those were top quality wins.

Have we had a lot of bad losses in last 5 years, absolutely. Are we improving, getting back to winning, I likely to think so.

Gotta love Google.
http://www.winsipedia.com/southern-miss

(08-15-2017 01:52 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(08-14-2017 10:07 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-14-2017 09:28 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  Great program FOR 3 YEARS TOPPERS!

Poor ol' Miss. Southern "lives in the past" ya know, but we went to 14 bowl games in 15 years....Dominated NOT Charlotte, N Texas or FL Int'l Airport, but Houston, Memphis, East Carolina, SMU , USF and UCF....Had 2 small college National championships back in dem days when you weren't playing Delta St., Valdosta, or Sul Ross, but FL State, Memphis and Alabama....Beat Top 20 teams with regularity...all while playing 99% of all BIG games on the road.

So right now you're the Boston Red Sox of C-USA, while we're the NY Yankees. You got the braggin' rights right now, BUT WE'VE GOT THE BANNERS, THE HISTORY AND BOUCOUP NFL PLAYERS THAT YOU'LL NEVER TOUCH!

Thing is, football is a lot like life----some folks brag about what they've done from 21 to 24 years old----as if they've accomplished EVERYTHING----while others look back at a full lifetime of mostly hard work and success, with a few bad times thrown in there just to make things interesting.

Our bad times happened when the "Sox" got hot...but the good times will be rollin' again SOON!

Let me repeat this again....

history is important but it gets less important or a factor with every year a team fails to repeat that history.

If your good history is 20+ years old only old people are even going to remember it. The rest will see you for what you done lately.

Now do I really need to bring up the record of ...

Memphis
Houston
SMU
USF

Hey anyone can play Fsu or bama or any other top program if they are willing to take a check...

S. Miss won 3 of the 33 games vs Bama. Now we are not talking Bama 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013. We are talking Bama 6-5 type teams. S. Miss won 2 of 14 vs FSU. But just as with Bama we are not talking national championship type team.

Maybe S. Miss fans should be more concerned with Charlotte who beat the dog crap out of your team. Than a game or two they won 30+ years ago.

Just a quick look at Houston vs S.miss
Below are the number of wins Houston had when S. Miss beat them
3
3
3
0
7
3
10
5
13

10 years or so ago you could get away with talking about all the times you beat those great Houston teams. Not today...GOOGLE is the truth. So 6 out of the 9 times S. Miss beat Houston they had a losing record...Houston won 3 games 4 times, 0 once and 5 the other.

I love it when fans act like today's results were the same team they beat 20 or 30 years ago.

If we are playing that game...Western is 2-0 vs Miami (Fl)

As I said I would be more worried about today and beating Charlotte a program that did not have a football team 6 years ago. Or UNT a school that's won 6 games over 2 seasons...one being S. Miss. Or UTSA another school that did not have a FB program 10 years ago

The subject of this thread is in regards to an article on 'All-Time Football Program Rankings'. Not, 'last 5 year football program rankings'. The fact that comments are being made that date back 20+ years are relevant, because 'all-time' would fall within that period (for some of CUSA). WKU only wants to focus on the last 3 years, and for good reason.

Just to correct your #s... USM is 6-35-2 against Alabama and 8-13-1 against FSU. Also 1-2-0 against LSU, 2-3-0 against Georgia and 4-5-0 against VT.

Alabama was ranked #13 when we beat them in '90 and 2000. #1 when we beat them in '53. We also ended their 19 year home winning streak in '82, so assuming they were pretty good then as well. FSU was ranked #6 when we beat them in '89. I would say those were top quality wins.

Have we had a lot of bad losses in last 5 years, absolutely. Are we improving, getting back to winning, I likely to think so.

Gotta love Google.
http://www.winsipedia.com/southern-miss

Well I stopped looking after 55 years and at that point S.Miss won 3 of 33 games vs Bama.....

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/sch...ssissippi/

BTW that 1990 bama team was 7-5 and started the season 0-3 so you beat a preseason ranked Bama. Just as the 2000 Bama team was 3-8. I don't blame a fan for wanting to take credit for beating a top ranked team. But you and I both know those rankings came in the pres season. Not what they did on the field.

Again let me repeat something....

History is very important but it becomes less and less important the more years you go without repeating it. Hell we all should know S. Miss history...

well history according to S. Miss fans.We heard it enough.

Now you need to start repeating that history from 20+ years ago and stop living off it. Every year you don't....it means less and less

(08-15-2017 02:15 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-15-2017 01:52 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(08-14-2017 10:07 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-14-2017 09:28 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  Great program FOR 3 YEARS TOPPERS!

Poor ol' Miss. Southern "lives in the past" ya know, but we went to 14 bowl games in 15 years....Dominated NOT Charlotte, N Texas or FL Int'l Airport, but Houston, Memphis, East Carolina, SMU , USF and UCF....Had 2 small college National championships back in dem days when you weren't playing Delta St., Valdosta, or Sul Ross, but FL State, Memphis and Alabama....Beat Top 20 teams with regularity...all while playing 99% of all BIG games on the road.

So right now you're the Boston Red Sox of C-USA, while we're the NY Yankees. You got the braggin' rights right now, BUT WE'VE GOT THE BANNERS, THE HISTORY AND BOUCOUP NFL PLAYERS THAT YOU'LL NEVER TOUCH!

Thing is, football is a lot like life----some folks brag about what they've done from 21 to 24 years old----as if they've accomplished EVERYTHING----while others look back at a full lifetime of mostly hard work and success, with a few bad times thrown in there just to make things interesting.

Our bad times happened when the "Sox" got hot...but the good times will be rollin' again SOON!

Let me repeat this again....

history is important but it gets less important or a factor with every year a team fails to repeat that history.

If your good history is 20+ years old only old people are even going to remember it. The rest will see you for what you done lately.

Now do I really need to bring up the record of ...

Memphis
Houston
SMU
USF

Hey anyone can play Fsu or bama or any other top program if they are willing to take a check...

S. Miss won 3 of the 33 games vs Bama. Now we are not talking Bama 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013. We are talking Bama 6-5 type teams. S. Miss won 2 of 14 vs FSU. But just as with Bama we are not talking national championship type team.

Maybe S. Miss fans should be more concerned with Charlotte who beat the dog crap out of your team. Than a game or two they won 30+ years ago.

Just a quick look at Houston vs S.miss
Below are the number of wins Houston had when S. Miss beat them
3
3
3
0
7
3
10
5
13

10 years or so ago you could get away with talking about all the times you beat those great Houston teams. Not today...GOOGLE is the truth. So 6 out of the 9 times S. Miss beat Houston they had a losing record...Houston won 3 games 4 times, 0 once and 5 the other.

I love it when fans act like today's results were the same team they beat 20 or 30 years ago.

If we are playing that game...Western is 2-0 vs Miami (Fl)

As I said I would be more worried about today and beating Charlotte a program that did not have a football team 6 years ago. Or UNT a school that's won 6 games over 2 seasons...one being S. Miss. Or UTSA another school that did not have a FB program 10 years ago

The subject of this thread is in regards to an article on 'All-Time Football Program Rankings'. Not, 'last 5 year football program rankings'. The fact that comments are being made that date back 20+ years are relevant, because 'all-time' would fall within that period (for some of CUSA). WKU only wants to focus on the last 3 years, and for good reason.

Just to correct your #s... USM is 6-35-2 against Alabama and 8-13-1 against FSU. Also 1-2-0 against LSU, 2-3-0 against Georgia and 4-5-0 against VT.

Alabama was ranked #13 when we beat them in '90 and 2000. #1 when we beat them in '53. We also ended their 19 year home winning streak in '82, so assuming they were pretty good then as well. FSU was ranked #6 when we beat them in '89. I would say those were top quality wins.

Have we had a lot of bad losses in last 5 years, absolutely. Are we improving, getting back to winning, I likely to think so.

Gotta love Google.
http://www.winsipedia.com/southern-miss

Well I stopped looking after 55 years and at that point S.Miss won 3 of 33 games vs Bama.....

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/sch...ssissippi/

BTW that 1990 bama team was 7-5 and started the season 0-3 so you beat a preseason ranked Bama. Just as the 2000 Bama team was 3-8. I don't blame a fan for wanting to take credit for beating a top ranked team. But you and I both know those rankings came in the pres season. Not what they did on the field.

Again let me repeat something....

History is very important but it becomes less and less important the more years you go without repeating it. Hell we all should know S. Miss history...

well history according to S. Miss fans.We heard it enough.

Now you need to start repeating that history from 20+ years ago and stop living off it. Every year you don't....it means less and less

I don't disagree. Just the topic of this thread is about history. Otherwise, remove Nebraska, USC, Texas, Penn State and Notre Dame from top 10.

(08-15-2017 02:21 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(08-15-2017 02:15 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-15-2017 01:52 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(08-14-2017 10:07 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-14-2017 09:28 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  Great program FOR 3 YEARS TOPPERS!

Poor ol' Miss. Southern "lives in the past" ya know, but we went to 14 bowl games in 15 years....Dominated NOT Charlotte, N Texas or FL Int'l Airport, but Houston, Memphis, East Carolina, SMU , USF and UCF....Had 2 small college National championships back in dem days when you weren't playing Delta St., Valdosta, or Sul Ross, but FL State, Memphis and Alabama....Beat Top 20 teams with regularity...all while playing 99% of all BIG games on the road.

So right now you're the Boston Red Sox of C-USA, while we're the NY Yankees. You got the braggin' rights right now, BUT WE'VE GOT THE BANNERS, THE HISTORY AND BOUCOUP NFL PLAYERS THAT YOU'LL NEVER TOUCH!

Thing is, football is a lot like life----some folks brag about what they've done from 21 to 24 years old----as if they've accomplished EVERYTHING----while others look back at a full lifetime of mostly hard work and success, with a few bad times thrown in there just to make things interesting.

Our bad times happened when the "Sox" got hot...but the good times will be rollin' again SOON!

Let me repeat this again....

history is important but it gets less important or a factor with every year a team fails to repeat that history.

If your good history is 20+ years old only old people are even going to remember it. The rest will see you for what you done lately.

Now do I really need to bring up the record of ...

Memphis
Houston
SMU
USF

Hey anyone can play Fsu or bama or any other top program if they are willing to take a check...

S. Miss won 3 of the 33 games vs Bama. Now we are not talking Bama 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013. We are talking Bama 6-5 type teams. S. Miss won 2 of 14 vs FSU. But just as with Bama we are not talking national championship type team.

Maybe S. Miss fans should be more concerned with Charlotte who beat the dog crap out of your team. Than a game or two they won 30+ years ago.

Just a quick look at Houston vs S.miss
Below are the number of wins Houston had when S. Miss beat them
3
3
3
0
7
3
10
5
13

10 years or so ago you could get away with talking about all the times you beat those great Houston teams. Not today...GOOGLE is the truth. So 6 out of the 9 times S. Miss beat Houston they had a losing record...Houston won 3 games 4 times, 0 once and 5 the other.

I love it when fans act like today's results were the same team they beat 20 or 30 years ago.

If we are playing that game...Western is 2-0 vs Miami (Fl)

As I said I would be more worried about today and beating Charlotte a program that did not have a football team 6 years ago. Or UNT a school that's won 6 games over 2 seasons...one being S. Miss. Or UTSA another school that did not have a FB program 10 years ago

The subject of this thread is in regards to an article on 'All-Time Football Program Rankings'. Not, 'last 5 year football program rankings'. The fact that comments are being made that date back 20+ years are relevant, because 'all-time' would fall within that period (for some of CUSA). WKU only wants to focus on the last 3 years, and for good reason.

Just to correct your #s... USM is 6-35-2 against Alabama and 8-13-1 against FSU. Also 1-2-0 against LSU, 2-3-0 against Georgia and 4-5-0 against VT.

Alabama was ranked #13 when we beat them in '90 and 2000. #1 when we beat them in '53. We also ended their 19 year home winning streak in '82, so assuming they were pretty good then as well. FSU was ranked #6 when we beat them in '89. I would say those were top quality wins.

Have we had a lot of bad losses in last 5 years, absolutely. Are we improving, getting back to winning, I likely to think so.

Gotta love Google.
http://www.winsipedia.com/southern-miss

Well I stopped looking after 55 years and at that point S.Miss won 3 of 33 games vs Bama.....

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/sch...ssissippi/

BTW that 1990 bama team was 7-5 and started the season 0-3 so you beat a preseason ranked Bama. Just as the 2000 Bama team was 3-8. I don't blame a fan for wanting to take credit for beating a top ranked team. But you and I both know those rankings came in the pres season. Not what they did on the field.

Again let me repeat something....

History is very important but it becomes less and less important the more years you go without repeating it. Hell we all should know S. Miss history...

well history according to S. Miss fans.We heard it enough.

Now you need to start repeating that history from 20+ years ago and stop living off it. Every year you don't....it means less and less

I don't disagree. Just the topic of this thread is about history. Otherwise, remove Nebraska, USC, Texas, Penn State and Notre Dame from top 10.

Western's FBS history is short, 9 years. So why is it you S. Miss fans can shout to the world about 20 or 30 years ago but you seem to get upset when I point out Western's history? BTW it's not 3 years...I would put up Western's record (winning %) over the last 6 against 80% of all FBS schools

So I asked the question early on in this topic....

would you rather won in the 1970s or today? Most schools in CUSA don't go back 50 years or 40 or 20 years