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(08-12-2017 12:21 AM)hburg Wrote:  I want to preface this that in no way shape or form should history or statue be erased. I believe it is a travesty and downright terrorist to destroy history. Charlottesville are idiots, just like the rest of them for wanting to remove history. Charlottesville (where UVA sits) has brought this on themselves and now they are center stage for what could become a violent turn in this fight. Both sides resorting to violence are idiots and to egg on each other is also asking for trouble.

Unite the right supposedly had a surprise torch march last night with around a thousand, as they approached the Confederate monument, they surrounded around 40 Antifa. From that points, some fighting breaks out between the two, then Antifa pepper sprays, but not Unite the Right, but themselves. The events in Charlottesville today could be even more dangerous. Here is a video that was shared on Facebook - I do not condone, but want to share.
https://www.facebook.com/augustus.invict...1102888111

The video shows Unite the Right March and at the end their encounter with Antifa.

Robert E. Lee was a traitor and generally a sick man. The statue should be turned to gravel, sand, or anything of any value. But he also died 150+ years ago. There are bigger travesties in the world than leaving it up.

And honestly, many BLM member are also sick and selfish. Many have repeatedly shown that they're willing to put their own selfish interest above that of this great country and humanity in general. The same goes for the alt right/Nazis/white supremacists. They're sick, too.

There's a point where I don't have a great deal of tolerance for those who repeatedly ask for handouts from society instead of what they can do to make it better. Both extremes have long since crossed that threshold, and I impatiently wait for the day when these groups will be truest marginalized and the sane middle will unquestionably reign supreme.

We need to move beyond petty divisions.

I love my country, and I love every sane person it it, regardless of their race, gender, sexuality, religion, or political beliefs.
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(08-12-2017 02:30 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 02:25 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Whether it takes a couple of years or less, this action pretty much sealed the fate of these Confederate symbols.

So, what will be next in the quest to erase history?
History isn't being erased, it's simply being put where it belongs.....in history books and museums

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(08-12-2017 02:37 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Trump refused to condemn the white nationalists in his opening remarks. Did he try to blame Obama for it? Good god.

All he said about Obama was that racial tension predates Trump and predates Obama...
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No condemnation of the Klan? No condemnation of the Nazis? Non condemnation of white supremacy/nationalism? While they are claiming his support? Within the context of an active terrorist attack?

Outrageous.
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(08-12-2017 02:40 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 02:30 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 02:25 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Whether it takes a couple of years or less, this action pretty much sealed the fate of these Confederate symbols.

So, what will be next in the quest to erase history?
History isn't being erased, it's simply being put where it belongs.....in history books and museums

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So then there should be no statues anywhere since history belongs in history books and museums? Or is it that the totalitarian left gets to decide which history belongs only in history books and museums?
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At least one dead from the right wing act of domestic terrorism and cons on this board are arguing about statues... disgusting.
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(08-12-2017 02:39 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 12:21 AM)hburg Wrote:  I want to preface this that in no way shape or form should history or statue be erased. I believe it is a travesty and downright terrorist to destroy history. Charlottesville are idiots, just like the rest of them for wanting to remove history. Charlottesville (where UVA sits) has brought this on themselves and now they are center stage for what could become a violent turn in this fight. Both sides resorting to violence are idiots and to egg on each other is also asking for trouble.

Unite the right supposedly had a surprise torch march last night with around a thousand, as they approached the Confederate monument, they surrounded around 40 Antifa. From that points, some fighting breaks out between the two, then Antifa pepper sprays, but not Unite the Right, but themselves. The events in Charlottesville today could be even more dangerous. Here is a video that was shared on Facebook - I do not condone, but want to share.
https://www.facebook.com/augustus.invict...1102888111

The video shows Unite the Right March and at the end their encounter with Antifa.

Robert E. Lee was a traitor and generally a sick man. The statue should be turned to gravel, sand, or anything of any value. But he also died 150+ years ago. There are bigger travesties in the world than leaving it up.

And honestly, many BLM member are also sick and selfish. Many have repeatedly shown that they're willing to put their own selfish interest above that of this great country and humanity in general. The same goes for the alt right/Nazis/white supremacists. They're sick, too.

There's a point where I don't have a great deal of tolerance for those who repeatedly ask for handouts from society instead of what they can do to make it better. Both extremes have long since crossed that threshold, and I impatiently wait for the day when these groups will be truest marginalized and the sane middle will unquestionably reign supreme.

We need to move beyond petty divisions.

I love my country, and I love every sane person it it, regardless of their race, gender, sexuality, religion, or political beliefs.
Thanks for the repetition of your opinion. Others differ.

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A while back someone on this forum made a post regarding the English and the more mature attitude they have regarding their history and associated monuments. It seem apt right now given the tensions surrounding the reminders of our own history.
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(08-12-2017 02:43 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  At least one dead from the right wing act of domestic terrorism and cons on this board are arguing about statues... disgusting.
It doesn't work that way mate.

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(08-12-2017 02:43 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  At least one dead from the right wing act of domestic terrorism and cons on this board are arguing about statues... disgusting.

Where was your faux outrage at the ANTIFA terrorist acts? What's disgusting is selective outrage.

Whoever did this should face the harshest possible penalties, as should anyone who commits a terrorist act.
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(08-12-2017 02:49 PM)appst89 Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 02:43 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  At least one dead from the right wing act of domestic terrorism and cons on this board are arguing about statues... disgusting.

Where was your faux outrage at the ANTIFA terrorist acts? What's disgusting is selective outrage.

Whoever did this should face the harshest possible penalties, as should anyone who commits a terrorist act.

Except I continually bash Antifa and condemn them at every opportunity. Your bull**** talking points won't work here ***** boy.
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I disavow (and have always disavowed) ALL political violence, from ALL sides.

Unlike others.
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(08-12-2017 02:45 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 02:43 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  At least one dead from the right wing act of domestic terrorism and cons on this board are arguing about statues... disgusting.
It doesn't work that way mate.

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Yea, lynchings are apparently okay, if done by white nationalists that support Donald Trump. 1 dead so far.
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(08-12-2017 02:42 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  No condemnation of the Klan? No condemnation of the Nazis? Non condemnation of white supremacy/nationalism? While they are claiming his support? Within the context of an active terrorist attack?

Outrageous.
You nailed it. Trump may not want it but no one can deny that white nationalists are in fact Trump supporters.

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(08-12-2017 02:52 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 02:49 PM)appst89 Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 02:43 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  At least one dead from the right wing act of domestic terrorism and cons on this board are arguing about statues... disgusting.

Where was your faux outrage at the ANTIFA terrorist acts? What's disgusting is selective outrage.

Whoever did this should face the harshest possible penalties, as should anyone who commits a terrorist act.

Except I continually bash Antifa and condemn them at every opportunity. Your bull**** talking points won't work here ***** boy.

Namecalling? That's really cute.

I disavow all political violence.
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line 1b) strikes again....

it doesn't matter race, creed, status, etc.....

some folks are simply drunk with a shiteload of neurological stupid.....

welcome to life.....
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(08-12-2017 03:02 PM)appst89 Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 02:52 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 02:49 PM)appst89 Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 02:43 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  At least one dead from the right wing act of domestic terrorism and cons on this board are arguing about statues... disgusting.

Where was your faux outrage at the ANTIFA terrorist acts? What's disgusting is selective outrage.

Whoever did this should face the harshest possible penalties, as should anyone who commits a terrorist act.

Except I continually bash Antifa and condemn them at every opportunity. Your bull**** talking points won't work here ***** boy.

Namecalling? That's really cute.

Sorry I hurt your delicate sensibilities.
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(08-12-2017 01:55 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Will Trump condemn the white nationalists?

I don't think he can. They serve a purpose for him.
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(08-12-2017 03:04 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 03:02 PM)appst89 Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 02:52 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 02:49 PM)appst89 Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 02:43 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  At least one dead from the right wing act of domestic terrorism and cons on this board are arguing about statues... disgusting.

Where was your faux outrage at the ANTIFA terrorist acts? What's disgusting is selective outrage.

Whoever did this should face the harshest possible penalties, as should anyone who commits a terrorist act.

Except I continually bash Antifa and condemn them at every opportunity. Your bull**** talking points won't work here ***** boy.

Namecalling? That's really cute.

Sorry I hurt your delicate sensibilities.

Meh, I couldn't care less. Just thought it was cute.
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(08-12-2017 02:14 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The car attack was a terrorist attack, no different than the attack by ISIS in Nice.

Lock him or her up!

I don't recall you saying this about leftists attacks on the right.
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